I've started a Europe-themed zoo a couple of weeks ago and was saddened by how little it was possible to make my selection of animals stand out. Now it feels truly possible to build a complete, fleshed-out European section. Maybe the Alpine Marmot, the Eurasian Otter, the Chamois and some bird species (White Stork, Dalmatian Pelican) are missing, but I can live without these mammals, and other than that, I think Europe is very well represented now.
Planet Zoo: Eurasia Animal Pack arriving 13 Dec ❄️
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In a weird way I am going to say that it is good that some people are disappointed.
Of course I’d love everyone to be happy but for me, this shows the strength of where Planet Zoo is now and how broad the selection of animals is.
Some people felt that the kiwi was a pointless addition, for others it was absolutely crucial in building their preferred kind of zoo.
For some people the raccoon was useless vermin, for others a common zoo animal that is an incredibly useful addition to the game.
I am so, so glad that more and more of us can build the kind of zoos we want to without all having the same standard lineup.
The flip side of this is that there will be some animals that people just don’t want or need. It doesn’t make it a wasted slot, it just means that this particular animal in this particular pack isn’t perfect for them.
But another one will be.
Clearly support won’t go on forever but there are so many possibilities that could still come and I am feeling more positive and invested in the game than ever.
Of course I’d love everyone to be happy but for me, this shows the strength of where Planet Zoo is now and how broad the selection of animals is.
Some people felt that the kiwi was a pointless addition, for others it was absolutely crucial in building their preferred kind of zoo.
For some people the raccoon was useless vermin, for others a common zoo animal that is an incredibly useful addition to the game.
I am so, so glad that more and more of us can build the kind of zoos we want to without all having the same standard lineup.
The flip side of this is that there will be some animals that people just don’t want or need. It doesn’t make it a wasted slot, it just means that this particular animal in this particular pack isn’t perfect for them.
But another one will be.
Clearly support won’t go on forever but there are so many possibilities that could still come and I am feeling more positive and invested in the game than ever.
I am totally with you. It's just meh all around, bunch of copy-paste animals again (not just talking looks here but habitat building/behavior wise) except the swan. Though I bet even that's gonna be more or less a short legged flamingo where building and behavior are concerned. There's just nothing really new brought to the overall game play at all. We need something really different, like you said, aviaries and fully aquatic animals/aquariums that bring new mechanics to the game to keep it interesting. This is just the same old, same old again and I really don't feel any excitement whatsoever over it.
Heck even the update looks super tiny and kinda "eh, okay?" considering the only real new feature worth advertising seems to be those gift shops and I'm really not sure what to make of that tbh. Like yeah, okay, I can put down finished shelves now instead of building it out of a few scenery pieces, still far from game changing, though. And I never had any issues building nice and functional shops with those custom shelves before either, especially since we got the counters only. Would've much prefered an actual new mechanic like playgrounds for the kids instead as that is really something that you can't build a functional version of with what we already got...
So, sad to say, but all in all I'm just really, really far from jumping onto the hype train this time around.
I'm saying this as someone wholly not thrilled with this DLC, but you are simply setting your expectations far too high and that's kind of on you.
Seriously, would everyone please stop waiting for aviaries and fish? And playgrounds; they are virtually impossible due to how guests actually function.
Seeing how these things are totally possible and there in other games made by them I honestly do not see how wanting them in PZ is setting too high expectations. Playgrounds can function like rides, heck even ZT2 and WLP were able to get it done back in the day, so no one can tell me Frontier couldn't do it in some way or other if they wanted to.
Both systems for open tanks and aviaries are already in place in JWE2 and we got the walkthrough in PZ too, so building upon that for a possible addition in PZ is definitely not too far off. So yeah, really don't see how wishing and hoping for that in PZ is setting expectations too high.
I think this is a really good viewpoint. Europe has a rather strange predicament where the animals are really common in Europe and highly requested, but are almost non-existent outside of Europe and can then become underwhelming. Take the wisent for example, it probably does nothing for an NA player, but means a lot for someone in Europe.
So having a pack like this with some of those needed European 'clones' but padding it out with some Asian representation is a really good idea. Takins and sloth bears and wolverines are found in zoos across the world.
No they can't. Children can't separate from adults. That isn't how it works. AFAIK the entire guest system would need to be recoded to make playgrounds functional, because right now child guests only exist as part of a mass with adult guests. They aren't individual characters.
As for birds and fish, yes, these are possible (other games aren't relevant; the cobra engine isn't used for other games, only the Planet franchise and JWE I believe), I never said they weren't, but to still seriously sit here and say "when birds" at this point in the game's life is just ridiculous.
Not really. A niche antelope, a bear not hugely dissimilar from the Formosan, and an ungulate. These three things are not very high on most people's wishlists.
Awesome... although I once again wonder why they identify it with a generic name when it's clearly a specific subspecies.
I mean yeah, if you are not thrilled with these particular species, then there is still not much for you. But I think at least some people outside of Europe will be pleased that it is not all just Europe. I have seen some people from NA in particular say that the Wolverine, Takin and Sloth Bear do save the pack for them, even if those are not their most wanted species.
Hmm could be new or the oak tree sapling
The highest profile missing European animal is now the Eurasian Brown Bear. They’re 95 there..cmon frontier just update the HBB, like 90% of us would like or at least be fine with that.
Maybe a slightly larger size of sapling?
Quite sure its the oak tree sapling
The tropical pack did fool us with a new tree which eventually turned out to be a cecropia sapling so could be a larger sapling but then I'm sure it's an oak tree sapling, it doesn't match the existing evergreen taiga trees and doesn't look 'new' enough for a new tree.
For something like that, this is going to be a brilliant rig. We'll have unofficial reskins of every subspecies within a week. Just like we did the peccary.
Love this outake. At the end of the day I see the game like this and makes me appreciate many aspects of the fandom.
I'm typically a stickler for animals being common in captivity but in defense of the saiga - a) it is our only Asian antelope and B) iirc it is also our only cold-climate antelope? So that in itself is going to make for some degree of interest to build for.
I'm fairly confident it'll have some interspecies enrichment too - definitely the Przewalski's Wild Horse, potentially the Bactrian by extension? Possible the wisent too.
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