I don't care either way. It's a ship with 3 hardpoints and a decent amount of cargo space, meaning potential pirate ship. It can be called the bootis bumper for all I care. 
Please consider renaming the Adder
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I don't care either way. It's a ship with 3 hardpoints and a decent amount of cargo space, meaning potential pirate ship. It can be called the bootis bumper for all I care.
Traditionally it was a rather popular pirate ship. Fast, well armed, and places to put stolen stuff
I actually think the opposite. That concept art (which I hadn't seen up until now) looks way cooler than what's in the game.
Not that I care that much though. I can't be bothered to play anyway, I'm super bored with it.
Agrees with you!
Oh well. I guess most people don't care about being true to the older games.
I get being true to the old games but FD made it and call it the Adder so it's their vision. I tend to just go with the flow when it comes to the ship designs. If that's what FD want to call it then I'm good with that as long as it get's the job done.
It's rather disappointing though, that one of the more iconic ships is being completely changed into something it's not supposed to be. It's not even close. It's not like they didn't intend originally for to be a true adder. They dangled the concept art in front of us. We fell in love with their drawings. Then they say the adder is in the game, you rush to the shipyard, and you take a punch to the stomach when you see it, because it's not the adder. The ship you have been looking forward to is not there, and you know it's not coming, because this other ship stole it's name.
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Seriously? Again?
It's not about how well it looks, but that it looks different from the original adder. The current design is not an adder. It shares very little with what defined an adder. It should not be called an adder. Don't just put in a (subjectively) better ship design, and then call it an adder, because people didn't love the old one.
Same problem with the cobra. Its very offputting.
Not very often I full on LOL at something have some rep sir.
@ the op. I thought from the title this was just going to be another flappy post but you've actually put up a very good argument. I've not played any of the games other than this one, but the case you describe seems relevant and important enough, and your request considered enough for me to whole heartedly agree with it.
well done sir. I hope Fdev take note of this one. Some things are worth listening to.
Have some rep too
I'm a big fan of the Adder from way back, I flew one back in the 1990's. I will upgrade to an Adder from my Hauler as soon as I can. In terms of whether or not the new design is an Adder I'd have to say yes. It's not a first generation Adder, and the iconic lines of that ship have been altered so you could barely recognise it, but is an evolution of the concept art that looks like it could be an original Adder. Consider for example how different a 1966 Toyota Corolla looks from the current model. It is conceivable that the Adder presented to us in Elite Dangerous is a recent model, and not the original from 200 years ago. It does not have to even be branded as an Adder MkII since that branding decision is up to the manufacturer. I would like to see some 200 year old original Adders flying around as NPCs, even if the ship is non flyable, I am a big fan of the original shape.
I'd be fine with that concept, but I'd say it needs the MKII clearly on it, since it's so very different. Maybe even II or IV
In addition, the current description says "The Adder is another classic design" when it's certainly not! It has changed manufacturers though, so I can totally see it being revamped over the years, I just think we need more in game to support this, as it's so completely different from the original adder.
I'm a concept artist, and I can say for a fact that you're just plain wrong. It has none of the characteristics of the concept art. NONE
Thing is though they went to the trouble of retaining the original look of the Sidewinder and Cobra for example. Stands to reason that if they still look like they did from 200 odd years ago then so should the other classic ships. By all means have new ships but let us 84ers have our iconic ships re-visualised with modern graphics.
First time I see that ship (unfortunate sufferer from the loading screen freeze…). It somewhat resembles the Fiat Multipla
'Roadkill'.
Adder. Oh look its the Hauler's fat cousin.
Dissapointed.
Very.
Dissapointed.
Very.
Hi there.
I have seen the "Adder" which was added in Gamma 2.0 and I must say I am a little disappointed. Not because I think the ship has been "rushed", is "lazy", or "ugly" as some people are saying. In fact, I rather like the ship itself. However, I have an issue with the name of this ship. This ship is not the Adder from previous games. Each of the other ships from previous games, the sidewinder, cobra, eagle, anaconda, etc, have maintained the same overall aesthetics of the original ships, while updating them to amazing, modern standards. The adder, however, has diverged so much from the original design that it is unrecognisable as an adder.
The hard lines of the original are replaced with a rounded ship, with almost no flat surfaces, or hard edges, other than the wings.
There are wings. The original models never had wings to speak of, though the description does mention folding wings, which are stowed for spaceflight.
In addition, the stubby "winglike" parts of the original were centred vertically, while these are at the very bottom of the ship.
The striking wedge nose of the original has been replaced by a rounded, bulbous nose.
The window has become much wider and taller. While I appreciate that the game must consider pilot visibility, it is totally different to the original adder.
I include here a few versions of the Adder from previous Elite games, and also ED concept art and in game assets.
ArcElite Data Card. This was a fancier version of the original 1984 version from the BBC micro, built for a more powerful computer. The main difference for the ship was the solid polygons and colour, it maintained the same shape.
It features here as the unfortunate victim in Frontier : Elite 2.
[video=youtube;9UMIbdN0UFE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UMIbdN0UFE[/video]
Then, in Frontier : First Encounters, it was updated graphically, remaining the same shape.
During the development of Elite : Dangerous, the adder was featured in the newsletter.
The newsletter stated that
Finally, in Elite : Dangerous, Gamma 2.0, a ship was released, named the adder.
As I am sure you can see, the images from ArcElite, FE2, FFE, and the ED concept art all feel aesthetically similar, while the release model of the Adder in Gamma 2 is rather different. Something happened during development of the ship, since the concept phase, which caused FDEV to radically change the design. I suspect the desired to fit the ship to the Zorgon Peterson design style, which I feel they have done. However, that's means that it is now radically different from the original adder.
What I would like is a simple name change. The ship itself is fine. I don't want it scrapped and redesigned, I don't want it removed. However, this ship does not look like an adder to players who have seen adders from previous games. It's not the same ship, and should not share the same name.
TL;DR
I would ask FDEV to Please change the name of the adder to something else. It looks like a new ship, and should have a new name.
Thanks to anyone who read my wall of text
I would have to agree with you. Although if Frontier didn't rename it, I wouldn't be too bothered. But you have a point, this ship is far more similar to Hauler and should really be called Hauler Type II or something. The original early concept for the ship are far more in keeping with the original design and actually I prefer them to the current one.
So I see where you're coming from, but if they've decided on this then fair enough, its their game. But I do prefer the concept to be the proper Adder.