Python Mk II & Updates To The Gamestore

My issue is with denying access to the ship for those without Odyssey, unless they pay real-world money for it

Why is this an issue now?
Horizons had a lot of ships that were available ONLY in Horizons. Plus engineering.
Odyssey was not even half as bad since it has little to no "incentives" - i was really surprised to see there are no Odyssey exclusive ships.

And now Python Mk2 - why buy it, as Live 4.0 Base game owner and not buying Odyssey?
Imo, there are zero incentives to buy the ship in the gamestore instead of buying Odyssey and get access to everything EDO has to offer, including future ships.
 
Why is this an issue now?
Horizons had a lot of ships that were available ONLY in Horizons. Plus engineering.
Odyssey was not even half as bad since it has little to no "incentives" - i was really surprised to see there are no Odyssey exclusive ships.

And now Python Mk2 - why buy it, as Live 4.0 Base game owner and not buying Odyssey?
Imo, there are zero incentives to buy the ship in the gamestore instead of buying Odyssey and get access to everything EDO has to offer, including future ships.
You buy a expansion. It comes with all sorts of features as part of the expansion.
This is not an expansion, it is greed, plain and simple greed.

It's not adding to the game, it is denying something to players who don't pay.

It's a fine line, I grant you, but it's a line Frontier should never, never have crossed.
 
Great news overall. EDO gets new stuff.

Better news, nothing is being forced or taken away.

Fair enough ....FDev are offering different paths .... a revenue option for them.
Even fairer enougher ....there is the a free ingame ARX route

There is no such thing as a free dinner ....

Seems some folks here on these forums either don't know this old adage, or do not accept it.

S!
 
Costs the same as buying Odyssey (thereabouts)

Yeap, precisely
Whoever wants the Python mk2 may as well get Odyssey and enjoy the full package - it's the logical thing to do, but without forcing this on players.

Now FD gave the base players the option to only buy the Ship and they get smacked for it.
Back then, as a base game owner, if you wanted to get the Dolphin or the Krait Mk you HAD to buy Horizons, no option to buy only the ship.
 
Wasn’t the Python 2 coming out before PP2?

If the ‘official launch date’ for P2 is 7 August then no PP2 until August at the earliest?
 
Yeap, precisely
Whoever wants the Python mk2 may as well get Odyssey and enjoy the full package - it's the logical thing to do, but without forcing this on players.

Now FD gave the base players the option to only buy the Ship and they get smacked for it.
Back then, as a base game owner, if you wanted to get the Dolphin or the Krait Mk you HAD to buy Horizons, no option to buy only the ship.
You are missing the most important point: They are allowing to buy the ship ahead of anyone else.
 
Why?
Horizons had its own "Horizons only" ship - i dont see a problem to have Odyssey only ships.
They should have added those ships within the first year of Odyssey launch, not 3 year later
At least non-odyssey players can still get the Mk2 - but they would get a better deal by actually getting Odyssey instead paying for the ship with Arx
I also dislike that the Cobra Mark II was Horizons pre-order exclusive (and I got it).
Just don't lock gameplay content behind paywalls. Cosmetics only for ARX (i.e. optional content).
 
If we look at this in terms of presentation compared to competitors "We added stuff to the gamestore" is a 1/10.

Other games dress up their stuff a bit nicer.

In elite terms it could be introducing a new engineer type guy/girl that does the prebuilds for you, they'd have a cool looking base in a cool system and going to pick up your new ship would feel like a bespoke experience.

All the ships would have unique descriptions of how the landing gear servos are lubricated with only the best proto squid juices from HIP 41181 and such to make things more palpable and interesting for people who might not be otherwise interested in those ships.

I avoid SC, but I know they've done off-brand Jeremy Clarkson thing with presenting their ships and probably a whole lot else since 90% of their effort seems to go to marketing.

I wonder if Elite will have any of that or if it's just "here's your ship, you have 5 seconds to leave before I shoot you for loitering".

We'd be better off if they sold us new ship design to shoot at as combat encounters instead or had tailored encounters designed to be done with those prebuilt ships.

Microtransactions and P2W stuff is still trash, but there's a high effort, high competency way of doing it and then there's the FDev way.
 
Argh. The Star Citizen scam of ships for real cash is coming to Elite. It's a sad day, for sure.

Selling anything other than cosmetics for ARX is unacceptable to me. ARX themselves are a problem with how they obfuscate what you're paying, and how you are forced to buy in fixed increments.

And now this. Wow. I'm floored.
 
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