Honestly, I am okay with the Pre-fitted ships, I am upset at the paid preview of the Python MkII. Depending on the details of the pre-fitted ships I am 100% okay with shifting folks into the mid game a little faster. As long as prices are not predatory I will support this move.
Python Mk II & Updates To The Gamestore
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It's entirely optional. I paid for early Odyssey access, too, same thing.
We paid for a beta, it was not live. We kept no progress from the early access and we knew that upfront. It carried few benefits as there was so much work that needed to be done. I think this is a bit of a different situation. This will be live and there is strong hinting that the capabilities of the ship will be at the least surprising to everyone.
I suppose we will just have to wait until August if we don't approve of paying for a preview. Not much of a wait. It'll be interesting to see what other's' views on the ship are.
True. In the grand scheme of things it isn't a great deal of time. There is the possibility that this does work. As weird as this sounds, I am a person who loves being wrong and I want this update to go off well. I want Elite to thrive.
FDev any chance of selling special frame shift drives that can jump 250ly regardless of ship mass?
For me if people want to get the new Python early, this should be encouraged. Meanwhile people like me will watch them having fun in their new ships, busy taking notes on how people compare it to the Python MK1, Kraits, FdL and Mamba. Then over 3 months, unlock any useful powerplay modules and gather any materials so once it comes out in August, all the necessary engineering mats will be already stocked up for whatever build looks like the best choice.
That can't happen without people putting hands in their pockets for some Arx though.
That can't happen without people putting hands in their pockets for some Arx though.
The access to the ship itself is the big deal. A three month wait or nine months of ARX vs. the time required to equip modules from storage or make a set new ones.
If by free and now you're referring to the ~400USD I've already spent or the nine-thousand hours I've played...you'd still be wrong.
I'm not offended that access to in game assets will come later to those who do not pay extra, I'm offended that it will be possible to pay extra and see any advantage from doing so.
And they already have our money. The also have revenue streams that do not depend on providing in-game assets.
"I'm offended that it will be possible to pay extra and see any advantage from doing so"
They still have to be good pilots though. They might be rubbish, like me. Even if I buy it early, I can guarantee that there will be no advantage...!
The alternative was to release it EXCLUSIVELY as a paid-for DLC - think of the uproar! I think this is the best of both worlds.
I think I've got about 22,000 ARX. I wait until someone reviews the Python MK-2 on Youtube before I deciding to buy it or not.
I will almost certainly be able turn a Python Mk II into a tangible edge in various gameplay loops; when I can be bothered to plug in my real controls (a situation that's been less and less common since Odyssey's release, unfortunately) I'm a pretty solid pilot and I have extensive experience with much of the game. I have a problem with the fact that I could be allowed access earlier than others, via means other than gameplay.
The alternative I would have expected to be a given, until today, would be to release it for everyone, at the same time.
That there are even worse potential scenarios than what Frontier has announced doesn't make what Frontier has announced any good.
Now if FD were smart they'd spend some time tomorrow (after the PP V2 talk, not before) on the basic questions raised to put peoples minds at ease.
Last time I thought it was worth giving Frontier money for product in ED was in March 2019. Five years later and the chance of earning more revenue from me is getting smaller.
The Python came out in 2700, so lets see what 600 years of advancements bring to the Python Mk-II.
How many more times and how much clearer does it have to be said? LEGACY. GETS. NOTHING. NEW.
Evening.
I know its wishful thinking, dropping this info with a livestream tomorrow and then pulling the power move of not talking about it
Pay money* for early access to ships? Sure, been mentioned many times in the forums. Looks like many will welcome this.
Pay money* for pre-built ships? I see nothing wrong with that either.
Will those pre-built ships appeal to me personally? Probably not, I enjoy playing the game to build my own, but I can see the appeal for others. And I'm guessing they won't come with engineered modules; ingame cash is easy, it's the materials for engineering that people have to work for.
Infact I have little issue with paying more for ... well, more.
But there in lies the problem. You've teased new Powerplay, and what we've seen is barely anything to pretty underwhelming so far. You've teased the new ships, 4 of which are coming this year, yet the first won't be till August, unless we pay for early access, but we don't know what we are paying for.
Many will be happy to give you more money, but many will need proof first that you are actually going to deliver, that you will actually put in more than what feels like just the current token development effort with our extra money. We want to see more involved updates than just a few cosmetic changes/rule changes/variations on mission types. We want more than 20 bugs out of 50 fixed while introducing 5 new bugs, 3 of which were fixed in previous updates and 20 odd just ignored for years. If you want more money, you need to prove it's worth paying for.
This is a chicken and egg moment; can the chicken be trusted?
*or slowly earn by playing the game.
Pay money* for pre-built ships? I see nothing wrong with that either.
Will those pre-built ships appeal to me personally? Probably not, I enjoy playing the game to build my own, but I can see the appeal for others. And I'm guessing they won't come with engineered modules; ingame cash is easy, it's the materials for engineering that people have to work for.
Infact I have little issue with paying more for ... well, more.
But there in lies the problem. You've teased new Powerplay, and what we've seen is barely anything to pretty underwhelming so far. You've teased the new ships, 4 of which are coming this year, yet the first won't be till August, unless we pay for early access, but we don't know what we are paying for.
Many will be happy to give you more money, but many will need proof first that you are actually going to deliver, that you will actually put in more than what feels like just the current token development effort with our extra money. We want to see more involved updates than just a few cosmetic changes/rule changes/variations on mission types. We want more than 20 bugs out of 50 fixed while introducing 5 new bugs, 3 of which were fixed in previous updates and 20 odd just ignored for years. If you want more money, you need to prove it's worth paying for.
This is a chicken and egg moment; can the chicken be trusted?
*or slowly earn by playing the game.