Python Mk II & Updates To The Gamestore

FOMO (which is not even a FOMO since you wont be missing Mk2 anyway)

I don't see the issue with Mk2 being released for the whales(if there is such thing in ED) before the schedule. Its not like it will be paywall locked like Cobra MkIV (which I do have since back then I believed in Fdevs). You want Mk2 before the scheduled release date? Dish out 10 pounds for it. You don't want to spend the money but ingame credits? Wait till August.

For those referencing the dreaded SC, you should really check their store page where you literally unlock the new ships depending on the money spent. So a guy spent $1000 will see more purchasable options than a guy spent $40. This is nowhere near (nor it ever should be) that scammy business model.

Also, for those slamming P2W, you should really check out how World Of Tanks is regarding that. Literally purchasable tanks are in 80% of the cases better than their counterparts purchasable with in game credits.
 
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Interested yes, supporting, no. Not a ship that is not available any other way, even if it is just for 3 months. I'm ok with the preconfigured ship packages. You can buy and build the very same ships ingame.
Sorry but some people don't quite get the question right. A new entry and THIS will then appear for everyone.
What does that mean?
It's just hiring beta testers for their own ARXs.
 
In my opinion, it's vital we make our displeasure known on-stream today since it's the last big outlet we have before FDEV can pull the move. And it's going to be a good indication of if the upper brass responsible for Elite are from the games industry, or corporate sacks who will run things like Bobby Kotick at Ubisoft (Read: To the ground)
LoL
Like that will change anything. Might as well cry into the void that we call space

Poor mods. I hope their shadow ban button works well today
 
I guess the majority of ED players only bought ED and Odyssey (at a discount) and then never spent any ARX while playing for months or years.
Sounds about right, yes. I used to buy ARX regularly two or three times a year to support the game, but I have to admit I haven't done so for a year now. The rise of cost-of-living and overall economic squeeze from all sides has made me cut many "frivolous" expenses like this and Fdev isn't the only one losing out, sadly🙁 I'm going to paraphrase Louis Rossman here: economy is like a train and if one wagon gets its wheels jammed locked the whole train will be slowed down.
 
Python MK II locked behind ARX paywall for non-Odyssey players (please allow them to play the game as anyone else, make it available for credits) ---

Why?
Horizons had its own "Horizons only" ship - i dont see a problem to have Odyssey only ships.
They should have added those ships within the first year of Odyssey launch, not 3 year later
At least non-odyssey players can still get the Mk2 - but they would get a better deal by actually getting Odyssey instead paying for the ship with Arx
 
Maybe we're just slowly beating the Titans. ?

I wonder if I don't like the ship I bought, can I exchange it or return the arxs?
 
In my opinion, it's vital we make our displeasure known on-stream today since it's the last big outlet we have before FDEV can pull the move. And it's going to be a good indication of if the upper brass responsible for Elite are from the games industry, or corporate sacks who will run things to the ground like many of the corporate types at big studios.
How would that work?
Another poor, childish display of lack of maturity?
The previous livestream showed how poorly some elements of the ED player base can behave already.
The more likely outcome would be a clamp down on the chat, not a change of their business choices.
Only the wallets will have an effect on that.

I have nothing against ships for money, but only if that money goes to ED development and not another zoo building simulator.
But something tells me that zoos are exactly where my ARX will go.
As I mentioned in another thread, the new feature will allow us to build zoos and theme parks in ED (on aptly named planets). 🤭
 
FOMO (which is not even a FOMO since you wont be missing Mk2 anyway)
If it’s not a case of perceived FOMO then why are Frontier using this model? If no-one feels they are missing out, why would they pay for access?

Bad news for Frontier if you’re right.
 
If it’s not a case of perceived FOMO then why are Frontier using this model? If no-one feels they are missing out, why would they pay for access?

Bad news for Frontier if you’re right.
I dunno. The minute peeps detect that factory fresh Python 2 in the water its

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I was going to disagree with you, but you're right.
I guess my issue with locking the Python mkII behind ARX for non-Odyssey owners is that it's not an expansion. I guess I'm just not thinking of it in the right way.
Or maybe I’m not. But for the Horizons owners the only other option would be to buy Odysse. It is a greyish area in some ways.

I still don't like it. I still don't agree with Frontier doing it.
I expected better behaviour from Frontier, I expected better standards. It's like horrible tasting medicine you have to swallow, you know it's for your own good, but you hate doing it.

I keep comparing Frontier to Hello Games, and Elite Dangerous feels like No Man's Sky in reverse. NMS had a horrible launch, but HG rebuilt all that lack of trust and faith from their community and did it without needing to charge anything for any update/expansion/DLC. Frontier seem to have had a good launch with Elite Dangerous and have over the years constantly goofed things up over and over again, almost as if they are trying to ruin Elite on purpose.
I can’t do that as this is the only game in the field I have looked at, in fact it is the only big game I have.

But I guess I'm just not thinking of it in the right way.
I suppose it helps that I don’t really think about Elite as a game where I am competing against other people in general. Of course there are occasions where I am to a greater or lesser extent but for most of the time it isn’t a competition but an activity.
 
If rebuy is 0 Cr, is this a potential (albeit limited) exploit?

If you can take out a module from a bought pre-engineered ship and the rebuy is indeed 0 Cr, does that become an engineered module printing machine? Buy new ship, take out module, blow up ship and get a new one (with identical modules) and do it again?
But if you take the module out, it won't be part of the rebuy.

I think it could work. Rebuy cost depends on the purchase cost of the ship and modules. If you got it for 0cr, that ship and the modules could have a free "rebuy".
 
But if you take the module out, it won't be part of the rebuy.

I think it could work. Rebuy cost depends on the purchase cost of the ship and modules. If you got it for 0cr, that ship and the modules could have a free "rebuy".
What I mean is, the pre engineered ships are sold as a package, and that the danger is if the game treats that as a 'baseline' rebuy option (a bit like the alternative starter ships) its generating modules out of nothing. So if you have an FDL with G5 everything you can kit out other ships by taking the modules, blowing up and then organ donoring for free.

Its why if this is the case the max should be G3 and / or tech broker modules and not the full G5.
 
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