Python Mk II & Updates To The Gamestore

… ARX prices have been fixed for a long long time, and you'd be surprised how much inflation has affected real prices in that time.
It’s not comparable. Personally I believe that is better sell more less costly items (total sum is higher) as to sell less more costly items. As example: I personally have now much less interest to buy anything in FD store and therefore I don’t need buy ARX at all.
 
OK so how long have the ARX prices been the same and what has inflation in the real world in real terms been in that period? Aside from the 'extra revenue for Frontier' argument, I genuinely am interested how much these ARX price raises have gone above inflation. I just have this (completely not backed by facts that I know of!) suspicion that ARX prices have been fixed for a long long time, and you'd be surprised how much inflation has affected real prices in that time.
Total accumulated inflation in the EU between 2014 and 2024 was 24.7%, The gamestore prices as far as I can see have gone up anywhere between 50% and 200% depending on the item. It is worth noting that Paintjob prices were actually pretty high in the first two years of the game. August 22nd 2015 I've bought the Vulture Chrome for 11 €. On December 14th 2016 I've bought the Imperial Cutter Chrome for 4 €. In 2017 16 piece ship kits were 10 €, 12 piece kits were 9 €. 2017 was probably the cheapest year. I've bought both T10 Chromed and FdL Razor pack for 3.50€ each in that year, same for Golden Mamba in 2018. No change until 2019, when they introduced ARX. I've purchased roughly 550k ARX between 2019 and today.
 
OK so how long have the ARX prices been the same and what has inflation in the real world in real terms been in that period? Aside from the 'extra revenue for Frontier' argument, I genuinely am interested how much these ARX price raises have gone above inflation. I just have this (completely not backed by facts that I know of!) suspicion that ARX prices have been fixed for a long long time, and you'd be surprised how much inflation has affected real prices in that time.

According to the Bank of England, UK inflation between 2019 (when ARX were introduced) and now has raised prices 23.4%

 
OK so how long have the ARX prices been the same and what has inflation in the real world in real terms been in that period? Aside from the 'extra revenue for Frontier' argument, I genuinely am interested how much these ARX price raises have gone above inflation. I just have this (completely not backed by facts that I know of!) suspicion that ARX prices have been fixed for a long long time, and you'd be surprised how much inflation has affected real prices in that time.
ARX was introduced in September 2019.

On the UK's official CPIH measure of inflation, there has been approximately 22% inflation since then - that certainly is a relatively high amount for five years, but nowhere near the changes applied to the store.
 
ARX was introduced in September 2019.

On the UK's official CPIH measure of inflation, there has been approximately 22% inflation since then - that certainly is a relatively high amount for five years, but nowhere near the changes applied to the store.
Thanks, for this. So I guess they are hiking prices way beyond inflation then. A harsh correction but let's hope that it works out so that they can get more development monies for this game without turning it into p2w.
 
Thanks, for this. So I guess they are hiking prices way beyond inflation then. A harsh correction but let's hope that it works out so that they can get more development monies for this game without turning it into p2w.

What is most galling is the fact that most repaints for example were created years ago so the costs of designing them is long sunk in the past - so why inflate the price at all? This is simply a type of price gouging and is a quite despicable insult to the player-base who have paid good money for Arxes.

Drug companies (or patent-purchasers) for example who do this are viewed with opprobrium - FDEV to me stink of this.
 
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Drug companies (or patent-purchasers) for example who do this are viewed with opprobrium - FDEV to me stink of this.
Straw-man argument.

Drugs are often life-saving, in which case for the person on them it's suck up the price of suffer the consequences of not taking the drug.
You aren't going to die for the lack of a ship kit. Don't like what FDev are charging? Don't buy.
 
Straw-man argument.

Drugs are often life-saving, in which case for the person on them it's suck up the price of suffer the consequences of not taking the drug.
You aren't going to die for the lack of a ship kit. Don't like what FDev are charging? Don't buy.

Oh dear - you take my extreme example and decide to defend FDEV by derision.

The example is not specific to the product's utility - the issue is that they are the sole provider, so price-gouging is them abusing their market dominance or in their case monopoly. FDEV of course is the sole provider of items in the Arx store.
 
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I'd do it this way :
1. The existing FCs would be recognized as obsolete and discontinued.
2. Issue new FC2 with minor changes, which can store 500 modules. Less tritium consumption for jump, etc.
3. Costs 50,000 Arx and basic maintenance requires 100 arx per week.
4. The rest of the services are bought as usual and their maintenance as usual in credits.
 
Thanks, for this. So I guess they are hiking prices way beyond inflation then. A harsh correction but let's hope that it works out so that they can get more development monies for this game without turning it into p2w.
I repeat - price of fake ingame currency named ARX, bought for real world money, remains uninfluenced by inflation. What changed are the prices of cosmetics people buy for ARX in game.

Personally I think those prices have been inflated to quite absurd level, but the bigger issue is the fact that Frontier devalued ARX players already had - bought or earned in game. One could have bought ARX one day, leave decision what paint job to buy for next day and wake up to the fact that his ARX are worth half of what they were the day before. There's not ever room for a refound - you bought ARX, you got ARX.

I suppose we should be happy they left the ARX as currency we pay for cosmetics. They could just decide that from that day forward cosmetics are bought for completely new fake currency.
 
I repeat - price of fake ingame currency named ARX, bought for real world money, remains uninfluenced by inflation. What changed are the prices of cosmetics people buy for ARX in game.

Personally I think those prices have been inflated to quite absurd level, but the bigger issue is the fact that Frontier devalued ARX players already had - bought or earned in game. One could have bought ARX one day, leave decision what paint job to buy for next day and wake up to the fact that his ARX are worth half of what they were the day before. There's not ever room for a refound - you bought ARX, you got ARX.

I suppose we should be happy they left the ARX as currency we pay for cosmetics. They could just decide that from that day forward cosmetics are bought for completely new fake currency.
Sorry but my translator gave me a complete breakdown of the logic of the post. I find it hard to understand why people would buy ARXs for real money just to have them lying around.
Accumulations in ARXs can only be in one case, if they got them in the game against your wishes. And you are waiting for an opportunity to spend them.
 
I'd do it this way :
1. The existing FCs would be recognized as obsolete and discontinued.
2. Issue new FC2 with minor changes, which can store 500 modules. Less tritium consumption for jump, etc.
3. Costs 50,000 Arx and basic maintenance requires 100 arx per week.
4. The rest of the services are bought as usual and their maintenance as usual in credits.
what have you got against fleet carriers? and why do you want to burn my arx paying for my fleet carrie?r when i am quite happy with the current method of pay leave my arx alone, i'm saving up
 
what have you got against fleet carriers? and why do you want to burn my arx paying for my fleet carrie?r when i am quite happy with the current method of pay leave my arx alone, i'm saving up
The old FCs are not being removed from the game, you will pay for them as before in credits and nothing will change for YOU. No one is forcing YOU to sell the old FC and buy FC2.

From a certain time you can not buy Cobra Mk4, any players after a certain date can not buy FC1 but can (if they want) buy FC2.
 
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I bought ARX a few months ago, ready for the Py2 release, I was thinking paint jobs and ship kits. This is before FDEV announced the "before update 19" early access charges.

Prices have gone up in the ARX store: not great, but I'm not going to boycott the store because of it. I do think FDEV's idea of prices is absurd, especially for the onfoot items, and that was before the price increases. They would have also done better if they had incrementally upped the prices over the years and split the gamestore between live and legacy.

Py2 is only available early access for ARX: not great, but I do have enough ARX to buy it, and I'm happy to support FDEV.

Py2 has access to Class A SCO drives, other ships won't "until later": That's the line for me personally. If the CG or Galnet article or whatever releases those drives for use with all ships rather than them being behind a (hopefully temporary) paywall, then I will spend my existing ARX buying early access to the Py2, and assuming I like the ship, I'll spend more on ARX for a paint job*. Unless of course that's after August 7th, in which case I'll buy it with ingame credits instead and spend my existing ARX on ship kits/paint jobs as I originally intended, just not as many and likely for the lower priced items because I can't justify spending that much at the new prices. Maybe there will be a sale ...

*That's how I spend my ARX. I build a ship for a specific role; if it works/I like it, the ship gets a name and a paint job. If I don't have the ARX, I buy them.
 
Sorry I didn't quite understand. Do ARXs change in the price of real money?
No, but while the amount of ARX you can buy for real money hasn't changed, what those ARX are worth in the store has changed because of the increased prices. I don't like that but I can live with it.
However based on the ARX prices for items like paint jobs and ship kits at that time, I bought some ARX to pay for those items for the Py2, because at that time nobody new FDEV were going to charge for the new ships themselves or increase cosmetic item prices.
 
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