Well, according to the SC KS the estimated delivery date for the game will be Nov 2014...
Cause the estimated delivery date on the KS is the only deadline we should care about, right?
Right.
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Well, according to the SC KS the estimated delivery date for the game will be Nov 2014...
Cause the estimated delivery date on the KS is the only deadline we should care about, right?
Right.
Who cares. Everyone gets alpha modules, everyone gets content at the same time.
Well, according to the SC KS the estimated delivery date for the game will be Nov 2014...
Cause the estimated delivery date on the KS is the only deadline we should care about, right?
Right.
Means zero and nilch, EVERYONE gets alpha modules, in fact I have a SC launcher and something to launch, and it is not November 2014 yet.
CIG delivered. And I still don´t see any ED launch icon on my desktop. Why is that? Ah right, didn´t pay enough.
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Both SC and ED are wonderful to me.
Both have a lot to do yet to be completed and
Both they look promising.
What i don't understand .. and probably i never will... IS:
why for SC people are so easily available to spend a lot of f****ng money without a problem
and when ED asks a little help in money for the alpha stages and beta process people gets literally crazy ?
Both have a lot to do yet to be completed and
Both they look promising.
What i don't understand .. and probably i never will... IS:
why for SC people are so easily available to spend a lot of f****ng money without a problem
and when ED asks a little help in money for the alpha stages and beta process people gets literally crazy ?
I love the hanger door opening and space being revealed before you..
I will reserve judgement until I play it... then I can make proper comparisons..
It's looking pretty, as for delays... where is that dogfighting module?
Come on SC.... get me something to play!
I will play both.. but mostly elite.
I will reserve judgement until I play it... then I can make proper comparisons..
It's looking pretty, as for delays... where is that dogfighting module?
Come on SC.... get me something to play!
I will play both.. but mostly elite.
Yeah, DFM is already 5 months or so late - more delayed than E D (since some are making comparisons).
It accelerate just fine, much more freely, lighter and easier than gravitational force.
Now leave me alone, I am not a teacher.
Actually gravity is ridiculously weak. Take a paper clip, hold a magnet over it. A tiny fridge magnet if you have one. Here's the thing. Your little tiny magnet exerting just a tiny fraction of the electromagnetic force if you put it close above the paper clip, the paper clip (assuming it's metal and not plastic coated) will jump UP to the magnet, when it does that and stays there, your tiny little fridge magnet has just overcome the gravitational force of the ENTIRE PLANET.
That's how weak gravity is and accelerating even in a normal plane is overcoming gravity and now operating stronger than gravity of planet earth by a few times. In space you could do that even more. So strangely gravity in space of an accelerating ship would be MUCH stronger than planet earth.
Hope this helps.
Ex-astrophysicist, currently a teacher.
Whatever the original intention of this thread was, its backfired on me as I've just now bunged Chris Roberts some cash too.
Love the more muted/dark palette currently in SC, over Elite's abuse of orange.
I might bung him some cash as well... eventually.
Are some special snowflakes who paid more already playing the DFM?
Am I looking at some publicized release date and asking myself why someone else is getting something earlier, although my release date says I should already have the same thing on my hard drive? I don´t think so.
There, now you know.
You don't get the same content as everyone else in SC either. Do you have access to all of the ships and different hangars? Why is that? Ah right, didn't pay enough.
Beat me to it - your benefits differ depending upon how much you pledged.
SC included alpha for low backers; ED included alpha for high backers .. different operating model; different company; different product; but hopefully the same awesome experience by both games upon release.
I think there must be some explanation - lot of bad flack between SC and ED communities comes from early days of ED Kickstarter. David has been called a copycat, having no shiny trailers, etc. Sure, current SC community is quite different - after all, their game got budget most indie titles can only dream about. But bullying in forums and comment sections of gaming sites continued for some time. Triangle ships. Having no scope and ambition of SC (at this point this is one very persistent myth in SC community). And etc. This stuff still goes on, but on much lesser extent. Just five months ago though every FD video they published had 5 comments "have you heard about SC?". I mean, come on.
Now, there's good old space game/space sim fans, who don't care about this tribalism. Those what we can see here and I can understand their frustration seeing some ED fans dissing SC. I am not saying this is right way to do it. However at this point this discussion has been already ten times more civil than any thread on CIG forums would be. So I will take Mobius arguments about why SC currently doesn't live up to par anyway over **** ED gets in SC community.
However does this storm in tea cup makes me or anyone else feel different about both games? Of course not. And I suspect most of us will choose either one of them disregarding what some nasty parts of communities have said. We will base our choice on preferences we have for space game fix
However it must be understood where it comes from and why there's some pushback on SC fan base activities
Now, there's good old space game/space sim fans, who don't care about this tribalism. Those what we can see here and I can understand their frustration seeing some ED fans dissing SC. I am not saying this is right way to do it. However at this point this discussion has been already ten times more civil than any thread on CIG forums would be. So I will take Mobius arguments about why SC currently doesn't live up to par anyway over **** ED gets in SC community.
However does this storm in tea cup makes me or anyone else feel different about both games? Of course not. And I suspect most of us will choose either one of them disregarding what some nasty parts of communities have said. We will base our choice on preferences we have for space game fix
However it must be understood where it comes from and why there's some pushback on SC fan base activities
oh please, what a desperate attempt to make CIGs business model look bad.
I have a hangar, a launcher and I will get DFM on the same day like everyone else. No, I don´t need ALL ships, and ALL hangars.
Just admit FDs business model and the way they treat lower tier backers completely suck. Because that is the truth, no matter from which angle you look at it.
Estimated release 2015. I believe it was 2014 originally.
What a silly title for the thread. I read it at SC has not need to fear ED and not the other way around.
Anyway, I'm glad they're getting something to show to the public. Given the hectic few days they seem to have had in the days before getting a build which would at least mostly work. (A video I've seen shows them having "fun" with missiles and them shouting to each other not to toggle the target as it crashes the networked game.)
As for what was presented, it looked really quite good. The helmet flip was fun the first time but became wearing very quickly. Also the missile lock-on animation was just too distracting. I also didn't particularly like the external view.
The HUD itself was quite nice and I certainly preferred SC's targeting reticle to ED's. I've found that if you have gimbled mini-cannons and a non-gimbled beam laser it's practically impossible to see the beam laser reticle so you can hit anything.
As for the flight model, I think the main reason for the jerkiness was the controller. I got the same level of rubbish control when I tried playing ED with an XBOX controller.
Let's hope both SC and ED pull it off and we have two great games.
Anyway, I'm glad they're getting something to show to the public. Given the hectic few days they seem to have had in the days before getting a build which would at least mostly work. (A video I've seen shows them having "fun" with missiles and them shouting to each other not to toggle the target as it crashes the networked game.)
As for what was presented, it looked really quite good. The helmet flip was fun the first time but became wearing very quickly. Also the missile lock-on animation was just too distracting. I also didn't particularly like the external view.
The HUD itself was quite nice and I certainly preferred SC's targeting reticle to ED's. I've found that if you have gimbled mini-cannons and a non-gimbled beam laser it's practically impossible to see the beam laser reticle so you can hit anything.
As for the flight model, I think the main reason for the jerkiness was the controller. I got the same level of rubbish control when I tried playing ED with an XBOX controller.
Let's hope both SC and ED pull it off and we have two great games.
To be fair, in SC you CAN get all those ships and stuff without paying. You just need to obtain them in-game.*
In ED, aside from the a few KS rewards (and half-price insurance for Alphas unfortunately), most kit can ONLY be obtained in-game).
* Although this may prove tricky if you need to compete for them against players that have most of the good stuff already.
Why blame Frontier for David Copperfield's antics?We had entire space stations vanishing before our eyes, cut them some slack
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