Cull and Seethe. Ebob's favourite motto.
Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12
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Star Citisn't is reverse engineering: Overpromise and then cull so hard the customers beg for anything to be delivered so they have at least something to show for their sunk moneys.
Wait, doesn't mean "cull" like "hole" in French? Ah, no, that's "trou" - dangit, I'd almost have shifted to corny platitudes in French.
Imagine a buggy game in perpetual alpha more enjoyable than a game released without bugs !
Hopefully, as the bugs are here, it's the easy way to deflect all other good points of the game and pretend that it has no quality or strength over the other games.
That's why some guys like Katy or Drew are important, they don't match with this narrative.
No need to beg, we have something new every quarter.
My grandma says the only thing that matters is the release of SQ42.
How would you know from Wagar? All I could learn from him was some incoheren't "Hehehe. Hahaha." which seemed to originate from the gameplay, but the footage didn't match up. And "delightful Katie" sure is setting the cleavage into the right light - too bad the audience is so limited. Maybe it's easier to catch a whale as sugar daddy - Star Cullingen is a very niche audience and quite a sausage fest.
Then again, I'm just a bad culltist, so what do I know.
Hah. I'm actually happy if people enjoy SC. I'd rather people get something out of Chrissy's clownshow development than not. That goes for you too. (And in an ideal world, for me as well. If the game were ever to actually reach some form of finalised state, with some form of promised VR support. Not that I'm holding my breath you understand
)And the thing is: You know this. Nobody can count the number of times this thread has said as a whole: 'Have fun!'. If that's all the post is trying to say: That they have fun.
It's when you extend the claim of 'X is having fun' to a larger meta claim that it all becomes absurd. Like previously when you tried to argue that Kate et al represented a "moving definitively from one to another" for the vast majority of players, and signified a "downfall of the skeptics". Just crazy, overblown extrapolation
And right now you're trying to talk past the issue of the many refunders who palpably hate the game due to misrepresented roadmaps and lack of delivery for what they paid for. Drew going 'Ooo' (in what is categorically still his honeymoon stage
) doesn't actually wipe that out, you know? A couple of individuals enjoying something doesn't tell us very much about anything at all...But an entire subreddit dedicated to wresting refunds out of a still unlaunched game? And the nigh weekly unique tales of regret at ever having gone through the honeymoon stage at all? They probably tell us a little bit more
And some of you here are still incapable to talk about the strongest points of SC in a good light.Hah. I'm actually happy if people enjoy SC. I'd rather people get something out of Chrissy's clownshow development than not. That goes for you too. (And in an ideal world, for me as well. If the game were ever to actually reach some form of finalised state, with some form of promised VR support. Not that I'm holding my breath you understand
And the thing is: You know this. Nobody can count the number of times this thread has said as a whole: 'Have fun!'. If that's all the post is trying to say: That they have fun.
It's when you extend the claim of 'X is having fun' to a larger meta claim that it all becomes absurd. Like previously when you tried to argue that Kate et al represented a "moving definitively from one to another" for the vast majority of players, and signified a "downfall of the skeptics". Just crazy, overblown extrapolation
And right now you're trying to talk past the issue of the many refunders who palpably hate the game due to misrepresented roadmaps and lack of delivery for what they paid for. Drew going 'Ooo' (in what is categorically still his honeymoon stage
But an entire subreddit dedicated to wresting refunds out of a still unlaunched game? And the nigh weekly unique tales of regret at ever having gone through the honeymoon stage at all? They probably tell us a little bit more
It's not that "They probably tell us a little bit more". It's that, here, some of you are unable to talk about anything else than the refund, bugs or that Saltmike after 5 hours of playtime had 2 bugs and made a rant.
Because posting here hundred random quotes from the average joe gamer (always those negatives about SC, never the good ones) tell us more ?
What if I collect every good phrases about SC posted by ED players in other threads or from youtube and post them here ? It will tell you more ? Hopefully for you, I don't have enough time for it.
And we're back to ED in a thread about Star Citizen I see, in fact most of the thread seems to be about ED, surely that's just a wee bit off topic?
Backers never wanted hundreds of players in a single instance anyway!
Slowly, bit by bit, as CIG step back on all their dreams.txt, backers will convince themselves its what they really wanted all along. Of course they knew all those things CIG were promising were never going to happen. They don't need a hundred systems, 5-10 will do. They don't need the mixmaster for passenger ships, who would want to do that anyway? And 80 crew Javelin? That's just silly, nobody ever expected 80 people crew!
Slowly, bit by bit, as CIG step back on all their dreams.txt, backers will convince themselves its what they really wanted all along. Of course they knew all those things CIG were promising were never going to happen. They don't need a hundred systems, 5-10 will do. They don't need the mixmaster for passenger ships, who would want to do that anyway? And 80 crew Javelin? That's just silly, nobody ever expected 80 people crew!
Nice attempt at deflection...but no, to give Ant his proper due he briefly mentioned ED players who perhaps may have some positivity surrounding SC...nothing more.
And @LittleAnt...I do get your point. Sometimes participating in page after page of persistent echo chamber negativity without pause can get a bit tiresome. This forum section is getting as bad as Spectrum
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Viajero
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That is just the thing. By most relevant metrics available out there (player concurrency data estimated from CR statements, individual backer number etc) it just isn’t. Even your own personal score of SC is a mediocre (and probably quite generous) 6/10.
You are simply discussing personal and anecdotal opinions which are quite meh tbh. I mean, I don’t doubt there are some people who enjoy SC, but anecdotal views are hardly a solid argument.
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You don't even play the game
But I, and many others here, do.
And so far, it's been absolutely rubbish - and nowhere near even approximating what I, and many others, purchased.
Well I'm not one of them ¯\(ツ)/¯
I'm happy to talk about the strong points of SC, as I see them. I think it looks very pretty, has the bones of a very appealing 'GTA in space' game, has achieved some notable tech, and can create fabulous moments, such this one which I lauded a while back:
But of course I go on to point out that he then died to desynch on his next attempt. And that is what you can't stand.
You can't stand people laughing at SC's long-form issues. Or daring to suggest that such issues reveal longer-form technical travails. Which in turn suggest issues with the overall governance and output of the project. (And its odds of becoming a viable, self-sustaining product on the market.)
You can't stand people being factually critical about Star Citizen. It very obviously drives you nuts.
And so you throw yourself into the classic 'Must defend my game so it succeeds' tribalism. Which is such an utterly futile waste of time.
The game will do what it does, regardless of all of us.
Yet you endlessly try to drown out discussion of the negative sides of Star Citizen. Something you're also never going to achieve. The angrier refundians have a righteous fire within them that can burn for years. And there are always more of them... And the bonus crew who view the soap opera for the insights and amusement never really run out of material either, even in these most torpid of times. (Quarterly patches yo. There is always more
)Both strands are righteous buddy. Those who've been burnt by the mis-selling, and those who've just gathered around the glow of its flames. Righteous and self-sustaining
But good luck with your ongoing war. I'm sure you'll say something really killer and relevant about NMS next, which will categorically end all the FUD and the noise
I mean I've literally done it for you already. Because I was so bored of you and others drawing bizarre conclusions from a handful of Youtubers.
I'm balanced like that see
Staggering development. Stumbling even!
Apart from the few specks the sun shines on, like mining.
No Ant, CIG go "we're gonna have x, y and z by next year....honest".....then comes a ship sale...rinse and repeat
FDEV are doing nothing of the sort and you know it but what is even more intriguing is that it's really only you and Ebob bringing up Elite Dangerous in the bloody thread.
Hate to break it to you but many of us who think SC is a farce also think Frontier have screwed up so I don't really know who you two are jabbing at?....the moderators?