Thargoid invasion - Next target systems?

[Grimscrub]

The night goes on, but from a quick journal poke, seems the first pair are prepped.
"timestamp":"2023-11-19T22:46:38Z", "event":"FSDJump",[...] "StarSystem":"Hupang" [...] "WarProgress":0.850000
"timestamp":"2023-11-19T22:48:53Z", "event":"FSDJump", [...] "StarSystem":"HR 1737" [...] "WarProgress":0.850164,

 

[Cmdr Daedalus Spyke]

Your carrier is quite full now! To be sure given that the order was only 1500 when we arrived, does it have the full 1640 or more? If it helps to know, apparently V has just shy of 100 still in the cargo hold, but I imagine it will not be much longer until it is orbiting the star instead.

I ran a few loads in earlier which is why the demand was lower. I do confirm that the full 1700 buy order I placed has been filled! So now it's just a matter of waiting for the "Go ahead" signal to sell these.

 

[Cmdr Daedalus Spyke]

Feel free to have someone ping me in discord when that sell time does come along btw. I'm in AXI, IXD, Aegis Reformed, and a few other wider community or Imperial coalition servers.

 

[Aleks Zuno]

I ran a few loads in earlier which is why the demand was lower. I do confirm that the full 1700 buy order I placed has been filled! So now it's just a matter of waiting for the "Go ahead" signal to sell these.

Even if at this point it ought to be fine at any moment in practice, to be strict about maintaining the backup plan the clear for Hyades Sector BV-O b6-2 is simply after all other systems are complete!

 

[Kira Goto]

So, with the delivery for those first two systems underway(judging by Hupang currently reading as near-complete*), I had another thought regarding potential response to losing all control systems…

Let’s say the Titan does launch a counterattack, what if that is partially achieved through calling on another one with a more extensive control sphere for backup? EG, Indra as the closer one, for instance, but at the cost of making its systems slightly weaker. (Unless I’m mistaken on which Titan is closest to Taranis.)

Though I could also see it likely that it goes into some kind of inert state. Or, in the end, nothing grand happens as one of the reasons for the spires existing - the territory held by a Titan, as their number appeared to be related to the size of the control sphere at the time of barnacle matrix sites becoming visible - is not really there any longer.

*Shows cleared now(3:36 AM CET), along with HR 1737.

 

[Cmdr Daedalus Spyke]

Even if at this point it ought to be fine at any moment in practice, to be strict about maintaining the backup plan the clear for Hyades Sector BV-O b6-2 is simply after all other systems are complete!

Sorry, you're saying it's cool to deliver the goods now even though there are other systems that aren't turned in/100% yet?

 

[Captain-MD]

Where is the offload taking place? I'd like to come help. I have a 752T Type-9 ready to go

 

[Aleks Zuno]

Victories in Trianguli Sector CA-A c22, Cephei Sector DQ-Y b1, Aowicha, Hupang, HR 1737 and Col 285 Sectors VS-Z b14-0, WN-Z b14-5, RM-B b14-2 and SH-B b14-1!

Following an absolutely excellent showing when and where it was needed most, the M. Taranis periphery is in the very comfortable position of having around one more day needed to complete HIP 25654. Indeed Hupang and HR 1737 had a bit extra activity which let us deliver those early; Swahku definitely waits until that Matrix system confirms 86% rather than 84%, and the soonest delivery for Hyades Sectors FB-N b7-4 and GB-N b7-2 will be this evening regardless.

Peripheries at 07:30 20th November 3309:
Five systems with 84% — Taranis 5–10 Ly, 1 matrix + 1 inhabited, 1749–18.5k strength
Five systems with 24% — Indra 19–21 Ly, 2 inhabited, 869–2928 strength
Five systems with 16% — Thor 18–19 Ly, 1 inhabited, 1254–5768 strength
Ten systems with 16% — Raijin 23–27 Ly, 1 matrix + 3 inhabited, 336–2265 strength

Alerts:
Luggerates Alert 36% *36.5% — Oya 22 Ly, 14k Ls outpost, 1473 Ls planet, Peripheral system
Chinas Alert 22% — Raijin 17 Ly, 1760 Ls outpost, 1208 Ls planet
HIP 7338 Alert 20% *21.1% — Oya 19 Ly, 2426 Ls outpost, 1660 Ls planet, Peripheral system, Invasion invited
Kurumanit Alert 16% — Cocijo 20 Ly, 38 Ls outpost, Peripheral system

Evictions:
97 i Tauri Control 86% — Indra 21 Ly, 550 strength
Lei Hsini Control 78% — Indra 21 Ly, 869 strength, Peripheral system
HIP 22524 Control 36% — Indra 20 Ly, 2928 strength, Peripheral system

Clean-up:
Col 285 Sector ZE-P c6-16 Alert 98% *98.6% — Cocijo 19 Ly
HIP 25654 Matrix 84% *84.1% — Taranis 10 Ly
79 b Tauri Alert 58% — Indra 19 Ly, Peripheral system
86 Rho Tauri Alert 44% — Indra 19 Ly, Peripheral system
Arietis Sector JR-V b2-4 Alert 32% *33.6% — Indra 20 Ly, Peripheral system

Sorry, you're saying it's cool to deliver the goods now even though there are other systems that aren't turned in/100% yet?

More that it would be only a mild risk to do so, but for the sake of clarity, please withhold it as planned!

Where is the offload taking place? I'd like to come help. I have a 752T Type-9 ready to go

The remaining large delivery is a matter for @Starsong to answer, but given your 752 T Type-9 you may be unaware that the cargo is corrosive. Despite a feature of Fleet Carriers which mitigates that a bit, we plan for the worst—speedy Imperial Cutters which have lowered tonnage in favour of extra sacrificial modules, the means to repair a broken Thrusters if needed, and specific understanding of exactly how the corrosive damage timer works (every 30 seconds, starting when you drop or wake).

All it takes is a power outage while holding that cargo, and suddenly said Type-9 will be at a large risk of costing us around four Commander-hours of harvesting!

 

[Captain-MD]

The remaining large delivery is a matter for @Starsong to answer, but given your 752 T Type-9 you may be unaware that the cargo is corrosive. Despite a feature of Fleet Carriers which mitigates that a bit, we plan for the worst—speedy Imperial Cutters which have lowered tonnage in favour of extra sacrificial modules, the means to repair a broken Thrusters if needed, and specific understanding of exactly how the corrosive damage timer works (every 30 seconds, starting when you drop or wake).

All it takes is a power outage while holding that cargo, and suddenly said Type-9 will be at a large risk of costing us around four Commander-hours of harvesting!

I am well aware of the carrier commodity delayed loading glitch. But I also have a Hi Corrosove vessel I can improvise with. I see the point to try and not have things break.

 

[Starsong]

The remaining large delivery is a matter for @Starsong to answer,

The Ascension Light is in Chacocels, orbiting the same planet as the rescue ship. I won’t be able to play the game until this evening, but I might be able to get on earlier to set up a sell order if other players are willing to do the offloading.

 

[Ian Doncaster]

Amazing progress over the weekend by everyone!

Sorry, you're saying it's cool to deliver the goods now even though there are other systems that aren't turned in/100% yet?

The specific about Hyades Sector BV-O b6-2 is that it shouldn't be cleared before Swahku is, or there's a risk that:
- the spire is cleared
- Hyades is cleared
- Swahku survives

In that case, it would be quite a while before Swahku reactivates the spire to allow another go round, whereas if Hyades remains active that can be done more easily.

Swahku definitely waits until that Matrix system confirms 86% rather than 84%,

On "sudden attack of paranoia" grounds... does anyone have a recent journal readout for the Matrix system to get the exact progress %?

 

[Aleks Zuno]

On "sudden attack of paranoia" grounds... does anyone have a recent journal readout for the Matrix system to get the exact progress %?

If it helps, the most recent broadcast this hour is now 84.5355%—is it a question of exactly when the Galaxy map shows 86%? If so, it is quite well-established here that it only shows complete 2%-points, such that 85.99% shows 84% and 86.01% shows 86%.

 

[Ian Doncaster]

If it helps, the most recent broadcast this hour is now 84.5355%—is it a question of exactly when the Galaxy map shows 86%?

Oh, that's probably okay.

No, my worry was that as it's been sitting at 84% for at least the last two hours, it might be that a cap has been introduced for spire progress too and it's been sitting at 84.99999% since 5am or something. If it's just that it's moving slowly because everyone's sleeping after the weekend push and now has to go to work, that's fine.

 

[Kira Goto]

Oh, that's probably okay.

No, my worry was that as it's been sitting at 84% for at least the last two hours, it might be that a cap has been introduced for spire progress too and it's been sitting at 84.99999% since 5am or something. If it's just that it's moving slowly because everyone's sleeping after the weekend push and now has to go to work, that's fine.

Well, if it’s anything to go by, the last inara update had it go from 84.5% to 84.9%(any delays between that and the in-game update notwithstanding). To be seen if it goes above 85, but I would still assume yes. Probably just slow going because it’s Monday morning in EU and just about very early morning/middle of the night for US.

And speaking of this progress stuff - do pod rescues have that 85% limit overall or only for the non-spire systems?

 

[Aleks Zuno]

I am well aware of the carrier commodity delayed loading glitch. But I also have a Hi Corrosove vessel I can improvise with. I see the point to try and not have things break.

Indeed Corrosive cargo racks are quite fine, and even your Type-9 will be reasonable as long as you are confident that you can still complete a delivery while taking full corrosive damage. Personally I would be worried about the fewer hardpoints to dilute the chance and about losing two modules while docking rather than one, but Commanders have been known often to overcome such odds!

No, my worry was that as it's been sitting at 84% for at least the last two hours, it might be that a cap has been introduced for spire progress too and it's been sitting at 84.99999% since 5am or something.

Quite thankfully, 84.9106% just became 85.4075%. That means also that the Swahku delivery is clear!

And speaking of this progress stuff - do pod rescues have that 85% limit overall or only for the non-spire systems?

All peripheral progress seems to have that limit; if you wanted to test it though, now is the time! Swahku and Hyades Sectors FB-N b7-4, GB-N b7-2 and BV-O b6-2 should be four test cases one can observe if Titan rescues are delivered.

 

[Kira Goto]

All peripheral progress seems to have that limit; if you wanted to test it though, now is the time!

Thanks, but I take that as a good enough and trustworthy answer to not need to test myself.

I also never quite figured out where to find the journal files. It’s not something I have any particular use or need for either, so I’m relatively fine not knowing.

 

[Aleks Zuno]

Well—if it helps to know, any progress remaining at HIP 25654 which occurs by means of Titan rescues must move all four of those other systems for such a hypothesis to survive! If any Titan rescues at M. Taranis fail to move a single one of those systems¹ then the peripheral progress limit applies. From watching our little INIV display in previous weeks, at least one boosted system always has stopped at 85.0000–85.0001%, although the Spire versus Titan proportion is not known.

1. Ideally, if one system stops with at most 85.0001%, although remaining stationary is also a good counter-example.

 

[Starsong]

Sell order is up! The Ascension Light is unloading the samples for Swakhu in the Chacocels system.

 

[Grimscrub]

Deliveries complete for Swahku... now to see if everything adds up neatly in the end.
-- add up neatly it did. Will go visit bunsen works, as-seen in the u14 cinematic and wait for the warprogress in-journal to update.

 

[Kira Goto]

So, then… should we pay our respects to Taranis yet, or wait until either the spire clears or ThursThargsday arrives and we get to see what happens?