The Formidine Rift - Part 2

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A question for the more seasoned rifters out there.

Is there a star cluster on the other side of the rift similar to ngc 7822 in our galactic arm, and the 2MASS cluster near to the heart and soul nebula?

Something you can see from 1000ly away?

Cheers!

Gypsy
 
A question for the more seasoned rifters out there.

Is there a star cluster on the other side of the rift similar to ngc 7822 in our galactic arm, and the 2MASS cluster near to the heart and soul nebula?

Something you can see from 1000ly away?

Cheers!

Gypsy
I haven't seen anything yet. I'm at the far side of the arm right now. Lot's of B stars though...
 
Well this is embarrassing!

Just made it out to the start of the rift after several nights of flying. Great :D got a bank holiday weekend to spend searching the place. Not got any jumponium though so maybe I should land and do some scouting.

First planet no dice - just standard stuff and some chromium. So I'm heading to the next landable when pop master comes on the radio. Ironically Curiosity Killed The Cat's song Straight Back Down To Earth is playing and I'm sat smugly congratulating myself as the Conda heads down to land because I knew the answer.

But the surface is coming up fast, too fast and as I desperately thrust up I realise this planet is way bigger than the last one. Too late, too late, shields offline and I'm back at the re-buy screen. :eek:

So now I'm sat at Diaguandri contemplating the relative insurance cost of Anaconda vs Asp.

What a massive idiot.

In memoriam of those who fell in the rift. May the Randomius Factoria be with you.
 
The old woman says that she "got as far as" the rift and that "nobody has been to the other side" and came back alive. To me this suggests within the rift, not across it. But that could be a mistaken assumption

Yeah that one could go either way....she got as far as the rift...nobody has been to other other side.
Now when she said nobody did she mean nobody until her? Strange things are afoot at the Circle K
 
This is where I find the old lady contradicts herself.. In the holofac, she tells them to plot a way across. As I read it, she made it further into the rift than what she remembers as an older version of herself.
 
Well this is embarrassing!

Just made it out to the start of the rift after several nights of flying. Great :D got a bank holiday weekend to spend searching the place. Not got any jumponium though so maybe I should land and do some scouting.

First planet no dice - just standard stuff and some chromium. So I'm heading to the next landable when pop master comes on the radio. Ironically Curiosity Killed The Cat's song Straight Back Down To Earth is playing and I'm sat smugly congratulating myself as the Conda heads down to land because I knew the answer.

But the surface is coming up fast, too fast and as I desperately thrust up I realise this planet is way bigger than the last one. Too late, too late, shields offline and I'm back at the re-buy screen. :eek:

So now I'm sat at Diaguandri contemplating the relative insurance cost of Anaconda vs Asp.

What a massive idiot.

Farm barnacles for jumponium before you go again. You can contribute to the MA CG while you do it then too.

Merope 5C barnacles yield Yttrium, Arsenic and Germanium
Pleiades sector JC-U BC-2 1 barnacles yield chromium, niobium and vanadium
Pleiades sector JC-U BC-2 2 barnacles yield Niobium, Germanium and cadmium
Pleione 11A barnacles yield Yttrium Arsenic and Germanium
Pleiades Sector IH-V C2-16 C4 barnacles yield chromium, nickel and niobium
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I then go to Heilelang 3 and scour the surface rocks for polonium. It also yields niobium, germanium and vanadium there. Great planet that isn't low gravity so they don't fly off all over the place. Find a flat area and search around for metallic meteorites for best results (two lines on the lower part of the radar). the rocks that are a single line on the bottom of the radar can give some rare minerals too. I tend to land at 8.59, 15.24 and then drive back and to towards 8.59, 15.26 which was suggested by another commander a while back on reddit (username non_idea). Nice flat area where you seem to find a few groups of three metallic meteorites fairly frequently.
Merope 1A is good for Zinc and cadmium (Zinc, nickel, chromium and vanadium are needed for basic AFM refills)
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Basic AFM refill = 2 nickel, 2 zinc, 2 chromium and 3 vanadium
Basic SRV refuel = 1 sulphur and 1 phosphorous
Basic SRV repair = 2 iron, 1 nickel
Jumponium 25% boost = 2 vanadium and 1 germanium
Jumponium 50% boost = 1 vanadium, 1 germanium, 2 cadmium and 1 niobium
Jumponium 100% boost = 3 niobium, 1 arsenic, 1 yttrium and 1 polomium
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Be prepared and travel with plenty of the minerals you need and throw away the junk that you'll probably never use.

My final cargo of materials before I leave for the Rift will be:

4 iron
6 nickel
4 zinc
2 sulphur
2 phosphorous
4 chromium
112 vanadium
58 germanium
20 cadmium
13 arsenic
49 niobium
13 yttrium
13 polonium
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Gives me:

48 x 25% FSD boosts
10 x 50% FSD boosts
13 x 100% FSD boosts
2 x SRV basic refuels
2 x SRV basic repairs
2 x AFM basic refills

Happy shopping/barnacle farming (bear in mind we may get in trouble later on for treating these poor things like cattle)

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For barnacle friendly jumponium farming try:
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Heilelang 2 (try around 0.3729, -75.6871, courtesy of the commander who mentioned Heilelang as a good source for jumponium on reddit previously, username non_idea) is a good source of yttrium.
Heilelang 3 (8.5923, 15.2435) has plenty of polonium, niobium, vanadium and germanium.
Merope 1A is good for Cadmium and Zinc.
Shinrarta Dezhra 1 (28.9126, -36.7043) gives arsenic, niobium and polonium but isn't a nice higher G world which makes collecting the minerals easier.
 
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Guys one more thing. As I'm currently reading "Lave Revolution" by Allen Stroud, I stumbled across this paragraph:
"Reorte to Riedquat is another used trade lane, but local pilots talk about problems in the Formidine Rift; something to do with an unchartable area of space and ships going missing."

This is verbatim.

Not sure whether this quote has been discussed or not. But this would actually make it sound like the rift is in the bubble (or has some connector to it).
Then again, maybe Stroud's book is not considered canon.
Anyone?
 
Guys one more thing. As I'm currently reading "Lave Revolution" by Allen Stroud, I stumbled across this paragraph:
"Reorte to Riedquat is another used trade lane, but local pilots talk about problems in the Formidine Rift; something to do with an unchartable area of space and ships going missing."

This is verbatim.

Not sure whether this quote has been discussed or not. But this would actually make it sound like the rift is in the bubble (or has some connector to it).
Then again, maybe Stroud's book is not considered canon.
Anyone?

Damn..

Nice spot. That would hint towards the rift being between the two. Plot a course and keep going might just mean SC towards one system from the other and perhaps there's a POI in that direction? Maybe an old generation ship that punishes visitors for getting too close?

Although it does seem to contradict the old lady's ramblings.. She talks of the stars thinning out and plotting to the galactic arm..

"Edge of the Galactic Arm. Take a line from Reorte to Riedquat to the edge of the arm and ... keep going. 'Stars thin out, you can see the whole galaxy just hanging there."

Lave Revolution is considered canon in this thread: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=5070
 
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Farm barnacles for jumponium before you go again. You can contribute to the MA CG while you do it then too.

Rep for the massive level of detail but sorry I can't. I'm normally all over CG's but when Barnacles came on the scene I made a choice for my commander and that was to leave them alone until I had more info.

I know it's stupid but hey that's role play for you - still very impressive info and really really helpful. :)
 
Rep for the massive level of detail but sorry I can't. I'm normally all over CG's but when Barnacles came on the scene I made a choice for my commander and that was to leave them alone until I had more info.

I know it's stupid but hey that's role play for you - still very impressive info and really really helpful. :)

No worries! Info is there in case your commander has a change of heart in future depending on scientific research that's conducted.
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For barnacle friendly jumponium farming try:
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Heilelang 2 (try around 0.3729, -75.6871, courtesy of the commander who mentioned Heilelang as a good source for jumponium previously) is a good source of yttrium.
Heilelang 3 (8.5923, 15.2435) has plenty of polonium, niobium, vanadium and germanium.
Merope 1A is good for Cadmium and Zinc.
Shinrarta Dezhra 1 (28.9126, -36.7043) gives arsenic, niobium and polonium but isn't a nice higher G world which makes collecting the minerals easier.
 
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Rep for the massive level of detail but sorry I can't. I'm normally all over CG's but when Barnacles came on the scene I made a choice for my commander and that was to leave them alone until I had more info.

I know it's stupid but hey that's role play for you - still very impressive info and really really helpful. :)

Totally understandable point of view. You can use the Jumponium planets list made by the Canonn: http://canonn.science/codex/exploration/planets-with-all-jumponium-materials/
 
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The rift makes me think of the old BBS game TradeWars 2002 (really dating myself here). It was an old turn based game that actually shared a lot of similarities to ED. The part that makes me think of the rift is how I used to look for a home sector. Basically, you needed something that you had to jump multiple time to without branching to any other sectors (stars) leaving a kind of space dead end. It was very defensible because there was only one way in so you could build up your defenses multiple sectors out before getting to your home base. IIRC, there were also some dead end sectors that had a kind of wormhole in them such that the sector in wasn't the same as the sector out so you didn't have to worry about getting trapped in there.

As far as ED, in the rift I think we are looking to a string of stars that are 25ly apart that lead to a dead end system where *it* can be found. There are likely to be dead end branches that aren't the right one that cause back tracking.
 
You don't need 3rd party stories for this confirmation:

*SPOILER WARNING*

Salome is the name given to Kahina by one of Reclamation's other major characters, Hassan after she suffers a partial memory loss and does not remember her own name. It is the name of his sisters cat.

Yep, cool. I haven't had a chance to read Reclamation yet. Tomorrow I'm going to spend some time poring over the Galnet posts again.
 
Drew said somewhere, I think on the first thread, something like "as far as I'm aware, nobody has found anything on the other side of the Formidine Rift yet."

This is pushing me to look on the other side....Having said that...he could be saying "because there's nothing there". Round and around and around we go..
I'm nearly over the bridge. Think I'll spend a few months on the other side looking around.
 
Although it does seem to contradict the old lady's ramblings.. She talks of the stars thinning out and plotting to the galactic arm..

"Edge of the Galactic Arm. Take a line from Reorte to Riedquat to the edge of the arm and ... keep going. 'Stars thin out, you can see the whole galaxy just hanging there."

You know what - this is the first time I've read that passage and thought - it doesn't actually say "keep going straight..." - it just says keep going. Could it mean go to the edge of the arm then go up or down?

Edit: Scratch that. I think I need some sleep!!
 
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I'm on XB1,and haven't read any of the books or lore beyond what's on here, but this is really intriguing me! I did get and create a PC character as well, but I haven't started that yet. Very may well make that my goal, move up from the Sidey and work my way toward a Asp Explorer to head out into and beyond the Rift...
 
I'm on XB1,and haven't read any of the books or lore beyond what's on here, but this is really intriguing me! I did get and create a PC character as well, but I haven't started that yet. Very may well make that my goal, move up from the Sidey and work my way toward a Asp Explorer to head out into and beyond the Rift...

Nice! and welcome! :) let us know if you find anything new :)
 
I really, really hope that whatever secret has been planted in the ED galaxy, gets tested regularly by Drew and FD.

Not long ago, people searched ages and ages for Barnacles, and it turned out that the majority of users could be at exactly the right spot and nothing would be visible.

Think about it... maybe 50 commanders have already been in the secret Rift location and nothing spawned because of a bug in ED...

(Arghh, I hope this is not what Drew means when he says "depends on who goes looking")
 
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VampyreGTX

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Nice! and welcome! :) let us know if you find anything new :)

Thanks! but my be a few weeks before I'm out that way on PC. My XB1 character will stay on his current focus of PP and CG's, and I won't have as much time to contribute on the PC so may take some time to get the credits for an ASP-E that is ready for the trip. Will look forward to it however!
 
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