The Formidine Rift - Part 2

[Dielos]

As I'm back at the bubble, and not going anywhere far until 2.1 goes live, I've decided to retake the search for Hassan and Sushil's home world. If anybody has found it already, please inform me, as I don't want to redo already done work...

By the description of the book (and hopefully it matches in game), it's a binary system with an earth-like. The main star gives an actinic blue light, and the companion star a warm red. Per Drew's hints, the system is in the Wredguia sector and around 400ly's from Sol. This already narrows the search quite a bit.

As there are not many populated systems in that area, I imagine that any population might be unregistered.

To narrow the search further, I'm filtering the galaxy map to only O and B stars, and looking for those that have only one companion star between G and Y. There are quite a few O and B stars in the area, but not many at all with only one companion star inside that range. The problem is that we can't filter the galaxy map for binaries only, so a lot of manual search has to be done.

To not search the wrong stars, I'm trying to identify if I'm right with the stars that might give an actinic blue light, and maybe someone more versed in astronomy can help me narrow the right stars down. As far as I understand, actinic blue is given by stars around 20.000 Kelvin temperature, and that's why I'm selecting only O and B. But in the galaxy map A's are also described as giving blue light. Any help to narrow the correct star type further? I have a feeling that I can kick O stars out of the search as well and leave only B stars?

 

[clavain]

As I'm back at the bubble, and not going anywhere far until 2.1 goes live, I've decided to retake the search for Hassan and Sushil's home world. If anybody has found it already, please inform me, as I don't want to redo already done work...

By the description of the book (and hopefully it matches in game), it's a binary system with an earth-like. The main star gives an actinic blue light, and the companion star a warm red. Per Drew's hints, the system is in the Wredguia sector and around 400ly's from Sol. This already narrows the search quite a bit.

As there are not many populated systems in that area, I imagine that any population might be unregistered.

To narrow the search further, I'm filtering the galaxy map to only O and B stars, and looking for those that have only one companion star between G and Y. There are quite a few O and B stars in the area, but not many at all with only one companion star inside that range. The problem is that we can't filter the galaxy map for binaries only, so a lot of manual search has to be done.

To not search the wrong stars, I'm trying to identify if I'm right with the stars that might give an actinic blue light, and maybe someone more versed in astronomy can help me narrow the right stars down. As far as I understand, actinic blue is given by stars around 20.000 Kelvin temperature, and that's why I'm selecting only O and B. But in the galaxy map A's are also described as giving blue light. Any help to narrow the correct star type further? I have a feeling that I can kick O stars out of the search as well and leave only B stars?

I searched quite a few of the named systems in that area (HIPs and HDs etc.) without success a while back (a list of them is in the first thread here I believe somewhere). I did not search any proc-gen systems though, so it might be worthwhile checking those that meet your criteria as well. You might also want to keep an eye out for proc-gen systems that end in "-0" but for which there is no "-1", "-2" etc. systems in the sequence. Speculation has it that these might be hand made.

You could also try filtering by population presumably (I did not think to try that). It likely has a very low population I suspect. Finally, keep a close eye on the system info tab - on some systems it changes with additional information once you have actually gone in-system and scanned the star. Good luck.

 

[Jaiotu]

If anyone in the bubble could stop by Gliese 1269, Fuelum or HR 6421 and get a screenshot of the local news, I'd appreciate it. CMDR lorrad and I collaborated on a news article for Galnet that just got published, but only in those three systems. I'm heading toward SgrA* at the moment so can't check.

This has been published in Gliese 1269, Fuelum and HR 6421.

My latest video series The Flight of the Ouroboros will be tracking my progress, but since it isn't Rift related I won't be posting them here. There is a link in my signature. I will be doing more "Rift News" videos which I WILL be posting here.

Thanks!

 

[Dielos]

I searched quite a few of the named systems in that area (HIPs and HDs etc.) without success a while back (a list of them is in the first thread here I believe somewhere). I did not search any proc-gen systems though, so it might be worthwhile checking those that meet your criteria as well. You might also want to keep an eye out for proc-gen systems that end in "-0" but for which there is no "-1", "-2" etc. systems in the sequence. Speculation has it that these might be hand made.

You could also try filtering by population presumably (I did not think to try that). It likely has a very low population I suspect. Finally, keep a close eye on the system info tab - on some systems it changes with additional information once you have actually gone in-system and scanned the star. Good luck.

Thanks Clavain. I will check that list of already proofed systems.

About the population, I fear it's going to be zero. I think the population might be unregistered. Per the book, Hassan's new ship could bring the whole planet to it's knees alone, so I suspect it's very low pop and probably rogue/not catalogued. At 400ly's from Sol, only the newly colonized planets like Robigo and partners have population. The rest shows zero (or the filters for allegiance/economy doesn't take it into account).

 

[xdemetrios]

As I'm back at the bubble, and not going anywhere far until 2.1 goes live, I've decided to retake the search for Hassan and Sushil's home world. If anybody has found it already, please inform me, as I don't want to redo already done work...

By the description of the book (and hopefully it matches in game), it's a binary system with an earth-like. The main star gives an actinic blue light, and the companion star a warm red. Per Drew's hints, the system is in the Wredguia sector and around 400ly's from Sol. This already narrows the search quite a bit.

As there are not many populated systems in that area, I imagine that any population might be unregistered.

To narrow the search further, I'm filtering the galaxy map to only O and B stars, and looking for those that have only one companion star between G and Y. There are quite a few O and B stars in the area, but not many at all with only one companion star inside that range. The problem is that we can't filter the galaxy map for binaries only, so a lot of manual search has to be done.

To not search the wrong stars, I'm trying to identify if I'm right with the stars that might give an actinic blue light, and maybe someone more versed in astronomy can help me narrow the right stars down. As far as I understand, actinic blue is given by stars around 20.000 Kelvin temperature, and that's why I'm selecting only O and B. But in the galaxy map A's are also described as giving blue light. Any help to narrow the correct star type further? I have a feeling that I can kick O stars out of the search as well and leave only B stars?

Probably looks something like this, wish I could find this system again. I'd do some deeper investigating but I remember it being in between Sag A and the Bubble. It was a red herbig star in binary with a O class main star. As you can see it was insanely close together.

 

[Zieman]

Folks, in an aside, this will be available tomorrow, to mark 10 years since I started writing Elite-y stories, originally via the Oolite forum. I am taking the opportunity close up a few loose ends.

https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=a8ac1eac9022ee041e0eb762174b2adb&oe=57E380F2

It is not canon or official, but it is consistent with ED lore.

10.29 am tomorrow morning > www.drewwagar.com

Cheers,

Drew.

Cool, nice birthday present, thanks Drew!

 

[Dielos]

Probably looks something like this, wish I could find this system again. I'd do some deeper investigating but I remember it being in between Sag A and the Bubble. It was a red herbig star in binary with a O class main star. As you can see it was insanely close together.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1577/26231472011_27bcc10de5_k.jpg

That looks amazing! Yes, I imagine the system might be something like this, just much closer to the bubble. It's supposed to be around 400ly's away.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Well, when she left her tiara, the Dark Wheel amulet and the Seven Veils behind she turned her back on 'Kahina' and is now Salome. No rank, no connections. She's basically building herself a new life.

Agreed. But as she is now Salome why leave her amulet (since that was inscribed 'Salome')? The only reason I can think of is that Luka is a Dark Wheel member & got her the amulet, tried to recruit her but failed so he left the amulet. But it's speculation.

 

[Dommarraa]

Hmmm. The Dark Wheel Amulet, always had serious doubts about that one. The most super secret organisation in the Galaxy, that may not even exist, does NOT have a logo or T-Shirts or a Reward Card or Booze Cruise trips to Prague. Its a red herring, a double/triple bluff, or poor writing (not going to crucify the author given the situation if that is the case)

 

[[Diplomacy] Carnegie]

Hmmm. The Dark Wheel Amulet, always had serious doubts about that one. The most super secret organisation in the Galaxy, that may not even exist, does NOT have a logo or T-Shirts or a Reward Card or Booze Cruise trips to Prague. Its a red herring, a double/triple bluff, or poor writing (not going to crucify the author given the situation if that is the case)

I concur.

*Shameless link to own post on the subject*

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=239212&p=3828553&viewfull=1#post3828553

 

[Jaiotu]

Hmmm. The Dark Wheel Amulet, always had serious doubts about that one. The most super secret organisation in the Galaxy, that may not even exist, does NOT have a logo or T-Shirts or a Reward Card or Booze Cruise trips to Prague. Its a red herring, a double/triple bluff, or poor writing (not going to crucify the author given the situation if that is the case)

The most super secret organization in the galaxy is offering missions to the public out of Shinrarta Dhezra. They've sold out and gone corporate
They sell limited edition Amulets in the gift shop.

 

[drew]

I have my own take on The Dark Wheel...

http://www.drewwagar.com/progress-report/the-dark-wheel-the-definitive-guide/

Cheers,

Drew.

 

[Jaiotu]

I have my own take on The Dark Wheel...

http://www.drewwagar.com/progress-report/the-dark-wheel-the-definitive-guide/

Cheers,

Drew.

I think I just heard a Mic drop?

 

[lorrad]

If anyone in the bubble could stop by Gliese 1269, Fuelum or HR 6421 and get a screenshot of the local news, I'd appreciate it. CMDR lorrad and I collaborated on a news article for Galnet that just got published, but only in those three systems. I'm heading toward SgrA* at the moment so can't check.



My latest video series The Flight of the Ouroboros will be tracking my progress, but since it isn't Rift related I won't be posting them here. There is a link in my signature. I will be doing more "Rift News" videos which I WILL be posting here.

Thanks!

Awww, shoot, as the purpose was to get Rifters and the Formidine mystery into the general galnet. Do you know or do you think they are resistant to saying anything about it until after the update or later. Whatever Drew wanted in there didn't make it. Guess that says something,,, can't even sneak it in.

 

[Allitnil]

As I'm back at the bubble, and not going anywhere far until 2.1 goes live, I've decided to retake the search for Hassan and Sushil's home world. If anybody has found it already, please inform me, as I don't want to redo already done work...

By the description of the book (and hopefully it matches in game), it's a binary system with an earth-like. The main star gives an actinic blue light, and the companion star a warm red. Per Drew's hints, the system is in the Wredguia sector and around 400ly's from Sol. This already narrows the search quite a bit.

As there are not many populated systems in that area, I imagine that any population might be unregistered.

To narrow the search further, I'm filtering the galaxy map to only O and B stars, and looking for those that have only one companion star between G and Y. There are quite a few O and B stars in the area, but not many at all with only one companion star inside that range. The problem is that we can't filter the galaxy map for binaries only, so a lot of manual search has to be done.

To not search the wrong stars, I'm trying to identify if I'm right with the stars that might give an actinic blue light, and maybe someone more versed in astronomy can help me narrow the right stars down. As far as I understand, actinic blue is given by stars around 20.000 Kelvin temperature, and that's why I'm selecting only O and B. But in the galaxy map A's are also described as giving blue light. Any help to narrow the correct star type further? I have a feeling that I can kick O stars out of the search as well and leave only B stars?

I don't think anyone has found an ELW in a O star system (they don't live long enough) and if there have been any found in B systems then they are exceedingly rare - it would be remarkable enough if you could find a "warm red star" in a class B system. I would personally concentrate on class A systems with a class M companion since those are known to exist and contain ELWs.

You might also want to keep an eye out for proc-gen systems that end in "-0" but for which there is no "-1", "-2" etc. systems in the sequence. Speculation has it that these might be hand made.

I don't know who is doing such speculating or why they would, but that's part of the normal proc-gen naming system. There might always be a small number of them which have been hand generated but that could be said of any proc-gen named system. For certain, there are way too many such systems for them all to be hand generated by several orders of magnitude.

 

[lorrad]

As I'm back at the bubble, and not going anywhere far until 2.1 goes live, I've decided to retake the search for Hassan and Sushil's home world. If anybody has found it already, please inform me, as I don't want to redo already done work...

By the description of the book (and hopefully it matches in game), it's a binary system with an earth-like. The main star gives an actinic blue light, and the companion star a warm red. Per Drew's hints, the system is in the Wredguia sector and around 400ly's from Sol. This already narrows the search quite a bit.

As there are not many populated systems in that area, I imagine that any population might be unregistered.

To narrow the search further, I'm filtering the galaxy map to only O and B stars, and looking for those that have only one companion star between G and Y. There are quite a few O and B stars in the area, but not many at all with only one companion star inside that range. The problem is that we can't filter the galaxy map for binaries only, so a lot of manual search has to be done.

To not search the wrong stars, I'm trying to identify if I'm right with the stars that might give an actinic blue light, and maybe someone more versed in astronomy can help me narrow the right stars down. As far as I understand, actinic blue is given by stars around 20.000 Kelvin temperature, and that's why I'm selecting only O and B. But in the galaxy map A's are also described as giving blue light. Any help to narrow the correct star type further? I have a feeling that I can kick O stars out of the search as well and leave only B stars?

I've only experienced and noted being in a system with clearly actinic lighting at 30,000 K and it was a class B. I had expected it to be 33,000 K and a class O. I've been in a few of those and they weren't, so I'd agree class O's can be ignored, until desperate at least. Also doesn't Wredguia bump up pretty close into bubble space, or is that just around Sothis?

 

[[Diplomacy] Carnegie]

I've only experienced and noted being in a system with clearly actinic lighting at 30,000 K and it was a class B. I had expected it to be 33,000 K and a class O. I've been in a few of those and they weren't, so I'd agree class O's can be ignored, until desperate at least. Also doesn't Wredguia bump up pretty close into bubble space, or is that just around Sothis?

Wredguia sector is ~200LY from my adopted home of Chacobog, which is on the outskirts of the bubble.
It was my jumping off point for a trip to NGC 7822.

Wredguia AK-I d9-59, if you want a searchable point

 

[Jaiotu]

Awww, shoot, as the purpose was to get Rifters and the Formidine mystery into the general galnet. Do you know or do you think they are resistant to saying anything about it until after the update or later. Whatever Drew wanted in there didn't make it. Guess that says something,,, can't even sneak it in.

Honestly? It was probably the Fuel Rat angle. Been too many similar articles in Galnet.

I sent a PM to Drew regarding a story idea but one I won't submit without hearing back first as it might step on his story plans.

 

[lorrad]

Yes, I'm aware of that, and don't think she found anything anyway. I know she's looking for it as well, but I do hope she might have a further clue. She was after all in Earth at equinox looking for something, and that might be initially just an area of space.

Although Salomé is looking just like the rest of us, she might have a hunch from time to time or hear the voices of the creators of the universe in her head that she might decide to follow...

I'm a bit desperate for hints, I know...

Desperate enough for this?

Was watching the US version of a Belgian show Cordon called Containment in the US. They show a quote before the action begins and this weeks S01E05,
"Matthew 10:16 I'm sending you out like sheep among wolves. So be as cunning as snakes but as innocent as doves."

Cordon is the story of an outbreak of a 100% lethal Ebola like virus and the ensuing drama of an entire area of a large city quarantined. Initially blamed on a refugee it turns out to be secret illegal government research at the central hospital.

What is the Salome line but an attempt at a Containment Cordon.

And what do we have yesterday in Drew's release time 10:29? That's an odd time.

Matthew 10:29 Aren't two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them falls to the ground apart from your Father's will.

Further Matthew 10:16 - 10:29 are considered a speech taken together meaning,,,,,

Have Faith,
Remember

As plain as the nose on my face.

 

[Dielos]

I don't think anyone has found an ELW in a O star system (they don't live long enough) and if there have been any found in B systems then they are exceedingly rare - it would be remarkable enough if you could find a "warm red star" in a class B system. I would personally concentrate on class A systems with a class M companion since those are known to exist and contain ELWs.


I don't know who is doing such speculating or why they would, but that's part of the normal proc-gen naming system. There might always be a small number of them which have been hand generated but that could be said of any proc-gen named system. For certain, there are way too many such systems for them all to be hand generated by several orders of magnitude.

Yes, found it strange too, although I'm not too knowledgeable in astronomy to be sure. But if we have to go by the book description, actinic blue should be around 20.000 Kelvin, and max 30.000 as lorrad said. That basically leaves us only with class B.

The big question is if the description of the book is really represented in the same way in the game. Not that it finally is just a G or K single star system or something of the like...

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Desperate enough for this?

Was watching the US version of a Belgian show Cordon called Containment in the US. They show a quote before the action begins and this weeks S01E05,
"Matthew 10:16 I'm sending you out like sheep among wolves. So be as cunning as snakes but as innocent as doves."

Cordon is the story of an outbreak of a 100% lethal Ebola like virus and the ensuing drama of an entire area of a large city quarantined. Initially blamed on a refugee it turns out to be secret illegal government research at the central hospital.

What is the Salome line but an attempt at a Containment Cordon.

And what do we have yesterday in Drew's release time 10:29? That's an odd time.

Matthew 10:29 Aren't two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them falls to the ground apart from your Father's will.

Further Matthew 10:16 - 10:29 are considered a speech taken together meaning,,,,,

Have Faith,
Remember

As plain as the nose on my face.

You completely lost me there...

I have never been able to read anything out of bible passages. But you are right with that time from Drew, it is very strange indeed that it's so specific!