I can't read the future, but I thought that the GTX 780Ti was the fastest card out there, and even beats a Titan. All it's lacking is the 6GB of GDDR5 for playing at extreme resolutions. Really need to wait for the results showing how the Mantle API perform to see if AMD are going to have a big edge from that.
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I can't read the future, but I thought that the GTX 780Ti was the fastest card out there, and even beats a Titan. All it's lacking is the 6GB of GDDR5 for playing at extreme resolutions. Really need to wait for the results showing how the Mantle API perform to see if AMD are going to have a big edge from that.
Oh they are already obsolete!
PS4 which arrived last week is now dead. No lights, no action.
Xbox One which arrived this morning has a dead Bluray drive. It just grinds and won't fully accept a disc.
I'm rather annoyed with consoles at the moment
In the Christmas issue of PC Format they note that neither console can really cut it at 1080p. With the most recent CoD game the Xbox One is limited to 720p to get a solid 60fps. Neither console can manage to play BF4 at 1080p.
Now back on topic, from what I've read, I probably wouldn't go for that card personally. It's a bit beyond my budget and if I'm not sure it's worth paying the extra for the R9 290X over the standard R9 290. Also most reviews seem to agree that both cards run quite hot and loud. On the plus side, when AMD and Nvidia are competing hard, it drives down the prices of quality cards, which is good for all of us looking to buy GPUs.
So much for the "next-gen" consoles then!
There certainly does seem some decent downward pressure of gfx card prices at the moment, so as usual waiting until the last moment will bring best bang for your buck.
Personally, I'll probably go for the best card in the £130 - £180 range in March or so. Whatever that happens to be should run E: D easily.
The most important criteria for me is that the card must run E: D and Oculus Rift with everything turned up to the max comfortably.
There certainly does seem some decent downward pressure of gfx card prices at the moment, so as usual waiting until the last moment will bring best bang for your buck.
Personally, I'll probably go for the best card in the £130 - £180 range in March or so. Whatever that happens to be should run E: D easily.
The most important criteria for me is that the card must run E: D and Oculus Rift with everything turned up to the max comfortably.
Would you say that a GTX770 would be enough? A quick check at Scan and Overclockers shows some examples selling for around £240, in 3-4 months time they might go down to the high end of that price range.
If you want the fastest for Elite, wait until at least the BETA when we see if there is a difference between the Nvidia cards and the AMD cards. It'd suck if you bought two GTX 760Ti cards and find that one R9 280x beats the pants off it.
You can't do dual i7's. They don't run dual. But there won't be any particular benfit to dual CPU's over a I7 4770. The number of people running more than 4 cores AND playing Elite will be tiny. It's just not worth Frontiers time to try and make that setup more effective than a 4770.
Xeon's aren't aimed at paying games, they are aimed at running servers. A slightly different target, and different feature set, especially in the motherboards that support them. You'll be buying features (and some of them are expensive features) you won't use.
Save you're money and get a 4770 and a socket 1150 motherboard.
I recently (as on, parts haven't shipped yet) bought
-Asus Gryphon Z87 motherboard
-I7 4770 (non k, I don't care about overclocking)
-32G RAM, which is the most an i7 can support)
-Gigabyte R9 280x video card
With the exception of the video card you can't really get better (just different). And in 2 years time I can buy another video card that will be twice as fast.
I know, when the BBC version was running there was nothing left to run anything else. I've always been hoping for something from FD that said something along the lines of
"You need four full cores to run Elite: D, if you want to chat, skype or check your email at the same time, you'll need another machine or more cores"
Are you sure 32GB RAM will be enough for Windows 9 and 10?
(where's the smilie icon for tongue-in-cheek?)
That looks a good board. Is there any benefit to a mATX board over an ATX other than being able to use a smaller case? I'm now also leaning towards 1150 architecture, partially so I can use the onboard video until Beta-2 comes along then buy a video card at the last minute, hoping to get better for less money...
If you want the fastest for Elite, wait until at least the BETA when we see if there is a difference between the Nvidia cards and the AMD cards. It'd suck if you bought two GTX 760Ti cards and find that one R9 280x beats the pants off it.QUOTE]
The R9 280x is faster than the GTX 760ti
32GB is the most an 1150 processor can support
You're probably right, but I live in hope... :smilie:
In reality though, I'll just get whatever's required to run both happily in spite of the cost. VR and 21st century Elite combo trumps minor cost concerns.
I have a
i920 GTX580 and
AMD P2 X4 965 5870.
So a new highend upgrade would be a decent step up.
Games can react very extreem on wich brand GPU most not but some.
Also the differ in performance to settings.
Then there is this mantle API and nv G-sync .
StarCitizen wil support mantle.
Because most people use there gamerig for years.
I got a intel nv combo and a AMD AMDTI combo.
Like BF3 would not run on nV intel system, but run on AMD. A few drivers further it run on both. Farcry3 and Rage run swell on nV rig.
Because the AMD system is the oldest and lower performance.
Its the first for upgrade.
Nv turn would be wenn 22nm maxwell GPU highend would be out next year.
R9-290x looks good. Especialy price and UHD performance.
But reference coolers are crap.
In my case my rigs are in the living room wenn I game someone is often watching loud TV. But non the less I wait for better custom OC'ed version bit more expensive.
i920 GTX580 and
AMD P2 X4 965 5870.
So a new highend upgrade would be a decent step up.
Games can react very extreem on wich brand GPU most not but some.
Also the differ in performance to settings.
Then there is this mantle API and nv G-sync .
StarCitizen wil support mantle.
Because most people use there gamerig for years.
I got a intel nv combo and a AMD AMDTI combo.
Like BF3 would not run on nV intel system, but run on AMD. A few drivers further it run on both. Farcry3 and Rage run swell on nV rig.
Because the AMD system is the oldest and lower performance.
Its the first for upgrade.
Nv turn would be wenn 22nm maxwell GPU highend would be out next year.
R9-290x looks good. Especialy price and UHD performance.
But reference coolers are crap.
In my case my rigs are in the living room wenn I game someone is often watching loud TV. But non the less I wait for better custom OC'ed version bit more expensive.
Graphics card recomendation
So, currently my graphics card is a little on the low end, and before the beta at least I'll be longing for an upgrade. My current specs:
Intel Q6600 (2.4GHz 1066MHz)
Radeon 4850 512MB GDDR3
6MB DDR2 RAM
ASUS P5B motherboard (1 PCI-E x16 slot)
700W PSU
Requirements I have from a graphics card:
- Not too expensive (~£100?)
- 2 MB GRAM! So says the holy Michael...
- Has reasonable longevity, especially if I end up upgrading the rest of my system next year
- Isn't so powerful it is throttled by the CPU/RAM
Of course one option would be to get a cheapish card that just works, with the plan to ditch/relegate it in a year or so when I buy a wholly new computer.
Anyway, any specific recommendations? It's been years since I last bought a serious component so I'm completely out of touch of what's good and bad right now.
Give me your advice, oh Elite-y sages!
So, currently my graphics card is a little on the low end, and before the beta at least I'll be longing for an upgrade. My current specs:
Intel Q6600 (2.4GHz 1066MHz)
Radeon 4850 512MB GDDR3
6MB DDR2 RAM
ASUS P5B motherboard (1 PCI-E x16 slot)
700W PSU
Requirements I have from a graphics card:
- Not too expensive (~£100?)
- 2 MB GRAM! So says the holy Michael...
- Has reasonable longevity, especially if I end up upgrading the rest of my system next year
- Isn't so powerful it is throttled by the CPU/RAM
Of course one option would be to get a cheapish card that just works, with the plan to ditch/relegate it in a year or so when I buy a wholly new computer.
Anyway, any specific recommendations? It's been years since I last bought a serious component so I'm completely out of touch of what's good and bad right now.
Give me your advice, oh Elite-y sages!
I recently got a Sapphire Radeon 7870
I've only got a AMD Athalon 2.5ghz Quad with 5gbDDR2. and I'm not sure about if they bottlneck the card but It's running great at the moment.
Edit, I added your post to this thread as theres some good info in here.
I've only got a AMD Athalon 2.5ghz Quad with 5gbDDR2. and I'm not sure about if they bottlneck the card but It's running great at the moment.
Edit, I added your post to this thread as theres some good info in here.
At the moment I have an Nvidia 530GT which really wont cut it for ultra detail, so I will be upgrading to a new rig with an Nvidia 780TI...
With most games I am happy to settle for medium settings... but this Elite, personally i feel it deserves the best I can throw at it.
But of course, it should work with less bells & whistles for people with low end rigs.
With most games I am happy to settle for medium settings... but this Elite, personally i feel it deserves the best I can throw at it.
But of course, it should work with less bells & whistles for people with low end rigs.
Philip Coutts
Volunteer Moderator
After much humming and wringing of hands I went for a GTX 770 and so far it runs like a dream. Really looking forward to seeing ED running in all it's glory.
So Michael has now announced that the alpha will only need 1 GB of graphics RAM. This thankfully makes a big change to what affordable cards I can get
The graphics should be scale-able but optimised for the most common ED user, whether that is high-end or not. I also hope it get shipped to the consoles too. Elite is a good game and costs should not stop people enjoying it.
Philip Coutts
Volunteer Moderator
Good to see Frontier working towards optimising the performance already! Pretty sure a lot of folks will be happy with that announcement.