Modes The modes are brilliant!

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

Again, you try to put your spin on the story forgetting that I can prove what they are doing.





It's consensual Opt in PvP - not forced PvP as your spin tries to convey.
People can quite happily continue to PvE and ignore PvP as they do now.

Go to wintergrasp, go to any city, OR even the missions Jockey. I watched a guy streaming it explain you have to be flagged to complete a certain mission. Not all of them. Some of them because it impacts on how the area rewards the winning side.

Now seriously get your facts straight. And stop being biased like your wall thats coming down.

So you’re saying that most people prefer indirect PvP over direct PvP for objectives in E? That’s their preferred gameplay? And you want to deny their preferred gameplay method? Not sure you’re making the case you want to here. At least PP/BGS manipulation across all modes/platforms/instances was advertised from inception and will always be supported.

Yes, change needs to happen here.

 

[Rhino Hammer]

Yes, change needs to happen here.

I believe that you believe that. Fact is direct PvP as the answer to your “woes” is too narrow of scope for meaningful discussion. By your own admission, most everyone prefers to avoid PvP when they play Elite so why would FDev ever want to force anyone to engage in PvP?

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

I believe that you believe that. Fact is direct PvP as the answer to your “woes” is too narrow of scope for meaningful discussion. By your own admission, most everyone prefers to avoid PvP when they play Elite so why would FDev ever want to force anyone to engage in PvP?

Because people arent pvping because they dont want to. Its not Optimal to. Especially when you can opt out of being stopped with the modes.

Its removed the need for meaningful PVP.

 

[Ozric]

To be fair the only thing I don't like about the modes is that I have to drop out of Open in order to be able to take hi-res pictures. I suppose if they removed PvP then they could put the option back into Open and then I'd never have to leave


I'm only joking of course, it's a consequence I'm prepared to live with.

Because people arent pvping because they dont want to.

Citation needed.

 

[Jockey79]

Go to wintergrasp, go to any city, OR even the missions Jockey. I watched a guy streaming it explain you have to be flagged to complete a certain mission. Not all of them. Some of them because it impacts on how the area rewards the winning side.

Now seriously get your facts straight. And stop being biased like your wall thats coming down.

Wintergrasp has always been a PvP area, even on PvE servers - and it's completely optional to go there.
Not one of my max characters has ever set foot there.

Again with the lies and spin.

You can go from level 1 to max without ever going near PvP. And now the PvP servers are going, so PvP'ers will have to hope people go to PvP areas (that have always been there) or pray people turn on their PvP flag.
Warccraft no longer supports forced PvP.

And much smarter people than you have not even tried to "take down the wall" - due to knowing it's a fight you cannot win.
I suggest you go read Sun Tzu Art of War. Because you're picking the wrong battles over and over.
You should be trying to get players worth merits in PP, or having criminals mode locked to open so bounty hunters get PvP.
Build your way towards the end fight, not try to jump directly there and being under geared for it.

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

To be fair the only thing I don't like about the modes is that I have to drop out of Open in order to be able to take hi-res pictures. I suppose if they removed PvP then they could put the option back into Open and then I'd never have to leave


I'm only joking of course, it's a consequence I'm prepared to live with.



Citation needed.

Citation Granted,

https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDange...play_imperials_and_grom_fight_with_no_honour/

 

[Rhino Hammer]

Because people arent pvping because they dont want to. Its not Optimal to. Especially when you can opt out of being stopped with the modes.

Its removed the need for meaningful PVP.

Even though when given the choice for “meaningful PvP” (which everyone has), they choose to avoid direct PvP? If the masses actually wanted Open only for PP/BGS, they would actively choose to do that right now. But you have said that “people” will always choose to avoid direct PvP. The “people” could give “meaning” to direct PvP but that’s not what the “people” want. Looks like the masses have spoken and you just don’t like the answer.

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

Wintergrasp has always been a PvP area, even on PvE servers - and it's completely optional to go there.
Not one of my max characters has ever set foot there.

Again with the lies and spin.

You can go from level 1 to max without ever going near PvP. And now the PvP servers are going, so PvP'ers will have to hope people go to PvP areas (that have always been there) or pray people turn on their PvP flag.
Warccraft no longer supports forced PvP.

And much smarter people than you have not even tried to "take down the wall" - due to knowing it's a fight you cannot win.
I suggest you go read Sun Tzu Art of War. Because you're picking the wrong battles over and over.
You should be trying to get players worth merits in PP, or having criminals mode locked to open so bounty hunters get PvP.
Build your way towards the end fight, not try to jump directly there and being under geared for it.

LOL. Servers. I suggest you read up on what Tencent did for League of Legends and what they do in general. They took a stake in this company. If they do the same thing for this company as they did for the League of Legends.

Your little server wild card gets torn in half, And the Hotel Burns to the ground.

Ticktock, ticktock.

 

[Jockey79]

Citation Granted,

https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDange...play_imperials_and_grom_fight_with_no_honour/

272 comments from your social group isn't proof of anything.
Didn't you learn this last time you tried to past your Reddit friends off as proof?

And official statement by Frontier or a press release please, not your manufactured threads.

 

[Jockey79]

LOL. Servers. I suggest you read up on what Tencent did for League of Legends and what they do in general. They took a stake in this company. If they do the same thing for this company as they did for the League of Legends.

Your little server wild card gets torn in half, And the Hotel Burns to the ground.

Ticktock, ticktock.

How many times, League of Legends is a PvP game - that only compares to CQC.

oh and Tencent only have 8.8% shares - not exactly a game changing number there as DBOBE still has 38%

https://www.frontier.co.uk/investors/shareholder-information

Try again........

 

[Agony_Aunt]

Hows this for text, https://i.imgur.com/5OQ7EIi.png

YOU, need to stop assuming what you know about me. You listen to what you want to hear and see.

And not whats actually going on. Even from the developers and CM's when they speak.

Hard to read actually, but i don't see much there to support any argument.

I assume about you what i read in your posts, as that is all i have to go off.

So, are you actually read to get down and dirty running missions for the BGS? Or you expect your PvE oriented faction members to do that while you "patrol" your territory?

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

272 comments from your social group isn't proof of anything.
Didn't you learn this last time you tried to past your Reddit friends off as proof?

And official statement by Frontier or a press release please, not your manufactured threads.

Evidence from player groups is where it starts.

Again, they get their feedback from them. Just like any other game. This one is not special in that regard.

It happened in WoW, It happens in League. And its happening here.

They make changes based on the proof given. Cross referencing player statistics, Videos and screenshots.

There are a lot of metrics, they see EVERYTHING. I MEAN EVERYTHING.

Thats why its comical when these "credit exploits" Last so long. They know where money is being generated. They know how many missions are being done in a weekend. They know what types of rewards people take as a whole in specific areas.

They even know whos doing them.

Ya'll really dont give them enough credit, lots of people dont.

Again, they get the feed back from those threads. They may not say anything. But they are well aware whats happening. Have been for a long time now.

The days are numbered. You just dont know it yet.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

The days are numbered. You just dont know it yet.

I think most people are aware of the calendar.

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

Hard to read actually, but i don't see much there to support any argument.

I assume about you what i read in your posts, as that is all i have to go off.

So, are you actually read to get down and dirty running missions for the BGS? Or you expect your PvE oriented faction members to do that while you "patrol" your territory?

Ive done it already Agony. Im not happy with its current state. Lots of us arent. Remember there are people happy with it. And some that arent.

But my player group has expanded into 25 systems. Im well aware of how it works, what it takes. And what happens when people attack other player factions. We fight sometimes up to 5 different groups at once. Plus Bots apparently.

If you read my posts, like actually read them instead of trying to counter argue for the sake of it. You would see and know I have the experience and have for quite sometime.

Im the best PVEVPER in Elite Dangerous.

Im Brabens Gift to this game. You should know that by now.

 

[Flimley]

Hooray for everything. \o/.

Flimley

 

[Jockey79]

Evidence from player groups is where it starts.

Opinions from player groups is where it starts.

It happened in WoW,

Where they are making PvP optional Opt in - just like Elite and many other games.

It happens in League.

A PvP based game, got some PvP love..... stop the press!

/facepalm

And its happening here.

Nothing has happened here though.
You keep shouting, everyone keeps laughing at you.
But nothing else has happened.

They make changes based on the proof given.

Which you have none. You have your handful of griefer friends screaming, but nothing else

Cross referencing player statistics, Videos and screenshots.

Which all point to the majority of players being happy with the mode system.

There are a lot of metrics, they see EVERYTHING. I MEAN EVERYTHING.

Yes, Frontier see everything and have told you nothing.
Oh they did say how PvP is a minority.... but then again, some Devs burst out laughing on live streams when PvP is mentioned, so......

Thats why its comical when these "credit exploits" Last so long. They know where money is being generated. They know how many missions are being done in a weekend. They know what types of rewards people take as a whole in specific areas.

They even know whos doing them.

Ya'll really dont give them enough credit, lots of people dont.

Which is why I'm annoyed they don't punish cheating / exploiting - because we know they keep track.
Ever notice though how it is ALWAYS a PvE credit exploit and never a PvP one......

just sayin'

The days are numbered. You just dont know it yet.

Yea I do, it's the 2nd. It's in the lower right corner of my screen so I always know the numbers

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

Opinions from player groups is where it starts.



Where they are making PvP optional Opt in - just like Elite and many other games.



A PvP based game, got some PvP love..... stop the press!

/facepalm



Nothing has happened here though.
You keep shouting, everyone keeps laughing at you.
But nothing else has happened.



Which you have none. You have your handful of griefer friends screaming, but nothing else



Which all point to the majority of players being happy with the mode system.



Yes, Frontier see everything and have told you nothing.
Oh they did say how PvP is a minority.... but then again, some Devs burst out laughing on live streams when PvP is mentioned, so......



Which is why I'm annoyed they don't punish cheating / exploiting - because we know they keep track.
Ever notice though how it is ALWAYS a PvE credit exploit and never a PvP one......

just sayin'



Yea I do, it's the 2nd. It's in the lower right corner of my screen so I always know the numbers

Ever notice your experience in PVP is why you dont understand?

The exploit for engineers was all centered around PVP.

Ever notice balancing issues are brought up from PVPers instead of PVE'ers?

Ever notice Crime and Punishment stemmed from people blowing each other up?

Ever notice people hacking the game with SHield Hacks and insta weapons? Ive fought those guys and reported them. Just think of the DMG they could do within the BGS?

You really dont have a clue jockey. People with experience laugh at you lol. Not me. Remember that.

 

[Jockey79]

....You would see and know I have the experience and have for quite sometime.

Im the best PVEVPER in Elite Dangerous....

If you were experienced in the game, you'd not be here talking rubbish.

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

If you were experienced in the game, you'd not be here talking rubbish.

Uh huh.

 

[Jockey79]

You really dont have a clue jockey.

Oh I know a lot about people like you 90s, which is why I find you amusing.

More and more game Devs are making their games so people like you cannot keep trolling and bulling other players.
And the salt on the forums from your kind is delicious.