THE OUTER LIMITS - A Slave Girl

[Perseus]

But it's totalitarian? Denies women power? And allows slavery?
How can I go with that ...

The biggest lie of the Federation is that it's citizens are free. The Federal authorities are a clan of power mad conmen propagating democratic voting as an ideal of freedom and choice. It's so 20th century.
The chance/choice dogma of corporate control over the unfortunate Federal masses are actually the galaxies biggest shackles. Equality is a myth used to inspire loyalty from a dispossessed population.
In addition, I think their tailoring is an insult to the human figure.

 

[Mars]

How is the Alliance then

OK, as long as you like living in some space version of Kazakhstan, a good one for Commander Borat and his role-playing efforts.

How is the Alliance then, and will that faction be playable in ED?

You can get rep with them, but I don't recall if they have any formal military you can rank up in. Any DDF'ers remember?

 

[Mars]

The biggest lie of the Federation is that it's citizens are free.

Ah, but they get to vote every half decade or so for which (very very slightly different) bunch of crooks who get to tax them to death while ordering around their every move with an army of bureaucrats and a sea of regulations!

That they think, makes them free.


Oh and p.s. The army of bureaucrats never change, the political elite just shuffle chairs in the legislative and wait for it to be their turn again. |Nothing ever really changes. At least in the Empire good families prosper and bad families falls.

 

[Viking]

After the two latest replies I'm even more confused than before ... LOL!

 

[Ref Minor]

Personally I'm hoping for an anarcho-syndicalist commune.....

The Maoist People's Democratic Republic of Riadquat bid you welcome.

 

[Perseus]

After the two latest replies I'm even more confused than before ... LOL!

That's exactly why you should join the Empire. As Mars said, you'll know your social status and ranking as a valued member of the most enlightened of human cultures.

 

[Mars]

That's exactly why you should join the Empire. As Mars said, you'll know your social status and ranking as a valued member of the most enlightened of human cultures.

Indeed. In the Federation they will fill your head with fantasies when your just a child about how one day you could be President or a head of a Corporation and then a few decades later your a debt slave for some overpriced mortgage on a ship or house.

In the Empire you know what your options are long before you come of age. If your family is not one that is ever going to see a governor of a colony or be an Senator then fine, you go after much more realistic goals and lead a substantially more fulfilling and valued life. And possibly move your family up a notch or two in the process.

In the Federation everyone is lied to, told to aim for the stars and ends up disappointed unfulfilled and unvalued by your remote political masters.

 

[popuptoaster]

I like a bit of <redacted> here and there, had slaves, been a slave, it's all fun and games.

 

[Styggron]

No. Slavery is immoral and wrong. Hence it being illegal in most systems in Elite.

That said, a question is raised. I recall scooping dropped cargo in Elite and getting slaves which then put me at odds with the local law because I had, involuntarily, become a slaver. In Elite Dangerous will it be possible to free such people? Freeing slaves is something I would like to do.

This was a discussion in the DDF and I put in a suggestion especially for that so people should be able to RESCUE and SAVE them and either try to return them home or the nearest safe port so hopefully the answer is YES you should be able to save/rescue them.

 

[Asp Explorer]

This was a discussion in the DDF and I put in a suggestion especially for that so people should be able to RESCUE and SAVE them and either try to return them home or the nearest safe port so hopefully the answer is YES you should be able to save/rescue them.

That's all well and good and admirable, but do we have the option to slap a EVA suit on them and throw them out the airlock to perform repairs? I might even reel some of them back in

 

[-o-]

The pirate slave

If I were that 28 yr old slave, I would eventually win his trust, build up my strength for one last liberating out-of-body pleasure session, then kill him as he slept.

I would then be truly free to do as I pleased with that expensive Asp and choose my destination and fate.

Shame there is no start option as a slave where such a scenario can be played out.

 

[Iskariot]

I would love to hunt for slave traders.
There should exist an idealistic, perhaps secretive, Slave Liberation organization that pays for freed slaves and gives you missions to attack certain infamous slave traders and their organizations.
This could easily be an entire immersive, story driven campaign.

 

[Minti2]

I would love to hunt for slave traders.
There should exist an idealistic, perhaps secretive, Slave Liberation organization that pays for freed slaves and gives you missions to attack certain infamous slave traders and their organizations.
This could easily be an entire immersive, story driven campaign.

Hope so!.... and of course the reverse would be a driven story campaign for bounty hunters to seek out these slave Knight liberators and stop them dead in their tracks!....this is what will make ED endless, with so many player possibility's.

 

[Rollo]

Well pretty much as with the Royal houses of today, the Empire is studded with inbreeding. You have to be born with a name. At least in the Federation any nobody can rise through the ranks.

Not saying I prefer any of them though. No, be happy and free, let the greed rule the Galaxy, come join the Sirius Corp.!

OK, as long as you like living in some space version of Kazakhstan, a good one for Commander Borat and his role-playing efforts.

Say that to Cmdr Susimetsä. He will hunt you down!

I think the Alliance will be as powerful as the other two, but what do I know, I didn't play the FFE.

 

[Andrew Sayers]

After the two latest replies I'm even more confused than before ... LOL!

I hope you don't mind me saying this Viking, but I find your bafflement quite instructive. You might like to read an old blog post about canonicity by a Doctor Who writer. In short, every body of fiction has a different attitude about what "officially happened" in their universe, from "it happened if The Creator says it happened" to "it happened unless the current rights holders say it didn't happen" to "whatever happened in your Whoniverse is between you and your Doctor".

For the past three decades, Elite canon has mostly existed in the form of winks and nods. Combined with a huge universe and a community full of dreamers, this has fed a very inclusive sense of canonicity. A great example is how Lave grew from a system simply described as "most famous for its vast rain forests and the Laveian tree grub" to a mass-deforesting dictatorship run by one Dr. Waldon to a place run with an iron fist by a quasi-mortal being (see page 119), and now on to a burgeoning democracy.

We all kinda know this will have to be reined in with the new game. One of the fiction authors was recently careful to remind me only Michael Brookes can make pronouncements about canon right now. But he's way too busy to start laying down the law, and it's probably quite a difficult question anyway. For example, there's a lot of talent sloshing round here and a lot of little bits of content needs writing. Who's to say the community won't be asked to continue dreaming up missions and system statuses in future?

So what you're reading right now is the dreams of players, nodded at by the fiction diaries, gazeteer, and other works such as the story linked in the OP. How much of this really happened? For now whatever you want, just remember to let the Chewbrookie win.

 

[-o-]

One of the fiction authors was recently careful to remind me only Michael Brookes can make pronouncements about canon right now

So where is this canon mounted? Is there some official document floating around somewhere?

 

[Nagual]

So where is this canon mounted? Is there some official document floating around somewhere?

Locked in the Desk Of Lore.

 

[psyron]

I am quite fascinated how many people think "slavery" is immoral - not realizing in what kind of system we are actually living right now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM



Edit:
The truth - we are already "slaves" of the top 1%

 

[Gibbonici]

I would love to hunt for slave traders.
There should exist an idealistic, perhaps secretive, Slave Liberation organization that pays for freed slaves and gives you missions to attack certain infamous slave traders and their organizations.
This could easily be an entire immersive, story driven campaign.

That would be cool. Also an Underground Railroad type organisation, which helps slaves flee the Empire to freedom. Plenty of mission opportunities there.

 

[Andrew Sayers]

So where is this canon mounted? Is there some official document floating around somewhere?

The writers are putting together a lot of canon for the new game, but it's not public because apparently it would spoil the magic. I'm not aware of any Wikipedia-style "list of common sources for Elite lore", although I suspect quite a few people would join in if you wanted to start one on the Elite: Dangerous wiki.