I decided to take a break when it was between 500-600 pages, I came back and it's double what it was before.
I'm just going to quietly test some theories until I get the motivation to read through all of that.
The Quest To Find Raxxla
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I'm just going to quietly test some theories until I get the motivation to read through all of that.
One of my contacts on Tau Ceti found this tidbit. Its the last page of a Field Journal from some idiot Ethnologist studying the religion of one of the fringe cults on the edge of the Frontier.
I, uh..... well I t............. uhm....Yeah?One of my contacts on Tau Ceti found this tidbit. Its the last page of a Field Journal from some idiot Ethnologist studying the religion of one of the fringe cults on the edge of the Frontier.
So Gan Romero was sacrificed to a snake god???
Everyone knows the true god is a Raxxlan!
Burn the heretics!
Everyone knows the true god is a Raxxlan!
Burn the heretics!
I'm sorry, I don't quite understand why they released hack drones and didn't release scout drones?Plenty of cargo to salvage:
Scan the escape hatch, go to Target->Sub-target, select the Limpet Docking Point, fire the hatch breaker then collect the cargo.
Nah Gan is fine we are just short one Ethnologist...So Gan Romero was sacrificed to a snake god???
Everyone knows the true god is a Raxxlan!
Burn the heretics!
Or "yupa", as the case may be.yup
Wait until you discover the Threadnought... You ain't seen nothing yet.
Probably not but no-one can say for certain. We know that it aint triggered anything yet.
Theres a lot of mysteries in ED that could be related to The DW, I think they are deliberately written to let the reader jump to their own conclusions without actually saying anything. Just like from the very beginning theres hints at something without actually linking anything, it keeps the mystery alive in the players head and we can make of it what we want. Very little is actually 'finalised' one way or the other....it might be, it might not and that keeps us guessing and talking and playing and wondering.
Interesting analysis. Much deeper than I did, after searching the same key-words.
I want to point out that Diana is the Roman equivalent of Hecate. Hecate is often seen a triple goddess and has the epithet 'Hexacheira' that means ‘Of Six Ways’ or ‘Of Six Hands’ (Sim has mentioned this). She is also known for holding two torches.
Diana's train is a bunch of nymphs. The Pleiades are among them.
Venus’ badge was in Shakespearean time often represented by a strawberry, because it's red and heart shaped. Could be another Heart nebula thing?
Yeah, I thought there was another reference with a Pleiades connection but I was too tired to look for it last night. I also gave up at Para 65 so there could be much more (as well as stuff I missed of course or haven't bothered to look up yet like the mother/son vagabond/runaway stuff among others). Haven't even checked to see if the Diana asteroid is in game yet, I was thinking if it is in a belt the train could be the other asteroids orbitting with it.
It would be hilarious if it was out near Heart and Soul somewhere, after all the time all those people (including me) spent searching out there for something else entirely, and not finding it. I can hear FD now, "Quick, Wagar has hundreds of commanders going to Heart and Soul - shutdown the Raxxla server!"
Disclaimer: Any reference to the word "belt" is by no means meant to refer to "The Belt"(TM). Please don't sue us.
I only recently went to H&S, a few weeks behind the Lore Tour @drew did, and even following hundreds of Cmdrs on the exact same route there I still found undiscovered systems all over...on the way back I came fairly straight across the 'void' and same, even found an undiscovered system with Crystal site in the 'void' (which may have been impassable before engineering though so less traffic).
So even well explored areas have lots and lots of undiscovered systems and 'secrets'. Never give up, never surrender to the 'everybody knows' argument.
Has anyone really read this stuff and understood it?
I tried, failing hard.
I mean yes sirens could be nymphs, but there are about 6 passages with nymphs in this sonnets, lovers mentioned 1000 times, parents none. Dunno.
This is the stuff that drives you crazy.
And the thing with the spiralling stars. I counted stella in this sonnets and made a fibonaccs sequence.
You have no idea when to stop. Damn iterations.
Well, it wouldn't be a puzzle (or obfuscation - remember it is quite possible it has nothing to do with Raxxla) if we figured it out right away.
I just assumed spiralling stars was another reference to a Black Hole (or binary system). I don't do math. ;-)
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I have some important break throughs. And I am at the point of needing community help. https://discord.gg/bfMXJr4 Is the IRH hunters discord. Join my angels-and-demons channel.
I have explained what the Dark Wheel is - and who at least two of the members are. I have also revealed their possible locations in the galaxy, and why they have ORBIS stations.
In the channel a lot of symbolism in the game is explained as well as why it is there guiding us.
You will find the location of a Guardian Exile in every large Orbis dock. They are watching us. They were always watching us.
And you will learn about the Orbis station connection to Raxxla.
https://discord.gg/bfMXJr4 I need help researching the points listed for the other Orbis stations, and understanding the clock during your CMDRs death sequence in a unique location.
Send me a message on discord if any of this makes sense to you and after you have read the channel, watched the videos, and looked at the imagery.
Image that's been recolored to reveal the Guardian Exile in every Large ORBIS station. Watching over humanity. Guardian siting image below- recolored to bring out the eyes - guardian site image below as well courtesy of Falconscreech, showing the bar between the eyes, and the eyes.
I have explained what the Dark Wheel is - and who at least two of the members are. I have also revealed their possible locations in the galaxy, and why they have ORBIS stations.
In the channel a lot of symbolism in the game is explained as well as why it is there guiding us.
You will find the location of a Guardian Exile in every large Orbis dock. They are watching us. They were always watching us.
And you will learn about the Orbis station connection to Raxxla.
https://discord.gg/bfMXJr4 I need help researching the points listed for the other Orbis stations, and understanding the clock during your CMDRs death sequence in a unique location.
Send me a message on discord if any of this makes sense to you and after you have read the channel, watched the videos, and looked at the imagery.
Image that's been recolored to reveal the Guardian Exile in every Large ORBIS station. Watching over humanity. Guardian siting image below- recolored to bring out the eyes - guardian site image below as well courtesy of Falconscreech, showing the bar between the eyes, and the eyes.
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In Elite important systems tend to be the brightest stars in their respective constellations as viewed from earth. (Polaris, Achenar, Alioth, Sirius, Beta Hydri etc) Almost as if the people in charge like astronomy. There are only 88 major constellations, and not all are reachable. (Polaris and one over by the Regor sector are examples.) They are all relatively close to the bubble (~2K LY from sol max by the looks of it. Most are much closer.), and doing a robust search of these systems may be worth while. I do not expect Raxxla to be in these systems, but rather breadcrumbs/clues.
Azeban City gets used as the backdrop for most of Elite's Trailers that feature stations. There are so many better options at first glance. Any station is Sol, Lave Station, Jacques or even Jameson Memorial would have seemed much better options. So why continue to use Azeban City long after the beta ended? Azeban may be a reference to a system near Sirius called Procyon (also the brightest star in Canis Minoris). Sirius is one of only a few corps old enough to have existed just after the supposed myth of Raxxla was first known. Perhaps Sirius corp was founded to find Raxxla, or in response to finding it. Sirius has the largest private navy, and that fits with the ability to defend raxxla from all comers. They also have a history of using mercenaries to take what they want and eliminated anything in their path. Sirius doesn't invent anything. They 'acquire' the work of others. The club even handed Sirius the stolen Alliance FSD designs.
The locations Sirius factions holds may be relevant. Attacking Sirius affiliated factions (via bgs) may force them to use their advantage/capabilities w.r.t controlling Raxxla more openly.
Why was it so important for Premonition to highlight the MIC as the big bad that it was apparently a directive right from the top if it has no wider significance? The Dark Wheel faction in Founder's World is a front to distract from the real thing. Sirius Corp is not a front, but the principle source of the club's power apart from potentially Raxxla it self.
The Club does not readily tolerate those who do not see things their way. The Dark Wheel must stay in the shadows so long as the Club/Sirius are at the height of their power and a direct threat to the existence of the Dark Wheel itself. It is a numbers game. The Dark wheel consist of the best of the best elite pilots, but the Club/Sirius have access to more advanced tech, limitless mercenaries, and the largest private navy in existence. (Remember the Avalonis and Ryder?) At some point skill does not win the day. The Club/Sirius has the endless fodder easily at hand to exterminate by brute force those that openly oppose them. Sirius/Club needs to be defanged for the Dark Wheel to come into the light of day.
The Large Scale faction manipulation via bgs utilized in the Turning the Wheel Initiative may very well be the right tool to make progress on this quest (thus the pseudo encouragement from fdev) but I suspect the correct application is to attack Sirius. (What I suspect Fdev wand in the solution to Raxxla: Collective Action by many players of a non-trivial period of time, All game Roles can contribute, Definite well defined non-arbitrary goals, Multi-stage gating to prevent casual/accidental discovery, Permanently change the landscape of the elite galaxy in a non-trivial manner (clear delineation) , and a story that can live on/ get good press for Fdev/The Players) Expanding TDW to 1000 semi-arbitrary systems to 'unlock" raxxla or the real dark wheel is not a great story. The Turning the Wheel initiative has not Goliath to slay, no days of glory on the field of battle, but rather would reduce the greatest mystery in all of gaming to solving an overly complex, subjective, and cryptic bgs combination lock. The independent pilots taking down the goliath that is the Club/Sirius, and reclaiming Raxxla from this evil cabal makes for much better newspaper articles.
The Wheel may Turn, but Sirius must Burn.
Azeban City gets used as the backdrop for most of Elite's Trailers that feature stations. There are so many better options at first glance. Any station is Sol, Lave Station, Jacques or even Jameson Memorial would have seemed much better options. So why continue to use Azeban City long after the beta ended? Azeban may be a reference to a system near Sirius called Procyon (also the brightest star in Canis Minoris). Sirius is one of only a few corps old enough to have existed just after the supposed myth of Raxxla was first known. Perhaps Sirius corp was founded to find Raxxla, or in response to finding it. Sirius has the largest private navy, and that fits with the ability to defend raxxla from all comers. They also have a history of using mercenaries to take what they want and eliminated anything in their path. Sirius doesn't invent anything. They 'acquire' the work of others. The club even handed Sirius the stolen Alliance FSD designs.
The locations Sirius factions holds may be relevant. Attacking Sirius affiliated factions (via bgs) may force them to use their advantage/capabilities w.r.t controlling Raxxla more openly.
Why was it so important for Premonition to highlight the MIC as the big bad that it was apparently a directive right from the top if it has no wider significance? The Dark Wheel faction in Founder's World is a front to distract from the real thing. Sirius Corp is not a front, but the principle source of the club's power apart from potentially Raxxla it self.
The Club does not readily tolerate those who do not see things their way. The Dark Wheel must stay in the shadows so long as the Club/Sirius are at the height of their power and a direct threat to the existence of the Dark Wheel itself. It is a numbers game. The Dark wheel consist of the best of the best elite pilots, but the Club/Sirius have access to more advanced tech, limitless mercenaries, and the largest private navy in existence. (Remember the Avalonis and Ryder?) At some point skill does not win the day. The Club/Sirius has the endless fodder easily at hand to exterminate by brute force those that openly oppose them. Sirius/Club needs to be defanged for the Dark Wheel to come into the light of day.
The Large Scale faction manipulation via bgs utilized in the Turning the Wheel Initiative may very well be the right tool to make progress on this quest (thus the pseudo encouragement from fdev) but I suspect the correct application is to attack Sirius. (What I suspect Fdev wand in the solution to Raxxla: Collective Action by many players of a non-trivial period of time, All game Roles can contribute, Definite well defined non-arbitrary goals, Multi-stage gating to prevent casual/accidental discovery, Permanently change the landscape of the elite galaxy in a non-trivial manner (clear delineation) , and a story that can live on/ get good press for Fdev/The Players) Expanding TDW to 1000 semi-arbitrary systems to 'unlock" raxxla or the real dark wheel is not a great story. The Turning the Wheel initiative has not Goliath to slay, no days of glory on the field of battle, but rather would reduce the greatest mystery in all of gaming to solving an overly complex, subjective, and cryptic bgs combination lock. The independent pilots taking down the goliath that is the Club/Sirius, and reclaiming Raxxla from this evil cabal makes for much better newspaper articles.
The Wheel may Turn, but Sirius must Burn.
What? Where? And why is it different to the encouragement given to Distant Worlds 1 & 2, the Fuel Rats, Hutton Truckers and a lot of other player initiatives?
Any chance you could share them here? Under a Spoiler if a wall of text, I promise you some people here will read it all regardless of how long it is. Discord is the bane of my laptop.
If I understood what you wrote correctly, then TDW is advocating peace with the Targoids ....