The Quest To Find Raxxla

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Mmm
Crispy fried whelk, yummy!!
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Think Stellarium is fairly good, so use that to check planetsā€™ 1-8 positions against game positions vs time?
Starting with 2000, then current date then fast forward to 3307...
 

electro

electro
Jorki Rasalas said:
Mmm
Crispy fried whelk, yummy!!
šŸ˜‹

Think Stellarium is fairly good, so use that to check planetsā€™ 1-8 positions against game positions vs time?
Starting with 2000, then current date then fast forward to 3307...
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I have used stellarium to go to 3307 but the planets positions is not the same :(
Dont know if its ED or stellarium that makes it wrong.
 

yelboc

yelboc
The difficulty is that stellarium gives the view from a spot on earth's surface, and gives locations in RA/Dec - these then have to be compared with view from a ship which has to be aligned in 3d. So first assumption will be that Earth is in the right place to judge Right Ascension
 

electro

electro
yelboc said:
The difficulty is that stellarium gives the view from a spot on earth's surface, and gives locations in RA/Dec - these then have to be compared with view from a ship which has to be aligned in 3d. So first assumption will be that Earth is in the right place to judge Right Ascension
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But if i use earth as center point then the locations for the planets should be the same.
The order of uranus , jupiter and saturn on a straight line should be the same. Not in another order
Edit: My bad missread Chirons orbit
 
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yelboc

yelboc
electro said:
I have used stellarium to go to 3307 but the planets positions is not the same :(
Dont know if its ED or stellarium that makes it wrong.
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It wont be Stellarium - having spoken to the creators, the model of the sky is highly accurate, as best as we have knowledge to make.

Regarding order, yes you are correct - their relative positions should tally. So maybe that makes it easier.

I suspect its more likely that if they are modelled with care, that its based on 2014 or 2000 positions or something like that. Nothing else has been wound forward to 33xx

Given we have the option to talk to 'god' here perhaps we should ask @Kay Ross :)
 
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simulacrae

simulacrae
I have a general suspicion that when they set the galaxy spinning it was in tune (as much as it could be)ā€¦ but with each update, patch, downtime etc... some slippage may have occurred.

But ya i do like comparing against stelarium and seeing if there is a regular differenceā€¦. Then we could apply a correction and look for things like hilda/chiron with possibly better accuracy
 
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Rochester

Rochester
Jorki Rasalas said:
Ok, still suffering RSI and not fit to fly so going to throw a new variant hypothesis into the arena for someone else to check out.

John Harper, author of ā€œAnd Here The Wheelā€ said (
Source: https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=152&v=mb8c2wB50QI&feature=youtu.be
) ā€œRaxxla itself, the mystery, who's rumours and sightings seem to ebb and flow on a 50 year cycle and we're approaching that 50-year peakā€

Dont know where he got that snippet from, but it does suggest Raxxla is a wandering/orbiting body with a period of approximately 50 years. Still favour my ā€œRaxxla in Solā€ hypothesis, so are there any bodies in Sol with a period of ~50 years? Yep! ā€˜2060 Chironā€™ (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2060_Chiron) is a 200Km diameter ā€œCentaurā€ asteroid, which orbits between the outer planets and the Kuiper belt (reminiscent of ā€œobfuscated on the outer rimā€?) that may be a minor planet &/or a comet (comet designation 95P/Chiron) with an orbital period of 50 years with perihelion of 8.4311 AU, just inside Saturnā€™s orbit. Its astronomical symbol (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_symbols) strongly resembles a key (ā€œPlace that isn't a place, door that is also the keyā€?).

It was discovered in 1977, is the first of the Centaur class asteroids, was even claimed by the press at the time to be the tenth planet, and there is a Chiron Orbiter Mission mission proposed for NASA.

So sounds like a good candidate for investigation!
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This is a strong probability.

Within John Miltonā€™s Paradise Lost, and referencing the silent song of the spheres, Saturn was the furthest out planet, then the sphere of Urania.

Urania is attributed to the planet Uranus. Urania is derived from ouranios, ā€œheavenlyā€ and Uranus is of course the origin of how the Greek gods were created, especially the myth of the Kronos and the Omphalos stone.

Obfuscated on the outer rim, could certainly fitā€¦ thatā€™s where I am currently. Using the mk I scannerā€¦

www.google.co.uk

Urania and Uranus

Note: The Urania section is edited and fleshed-out from last yearā€™s A to Z post. It was really hard to find anyone from Greek mythology whose name starts with a U (either in the original Greeā€¦
www.google.co.uk www.google.co.uk

en.m.wikipedia.org

Aphrodite Urania - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org en.m.wikipedia.org
 
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Han_Zen

Han_Zen
simulacrae said:
I have a general suspicion that when they set the galaxy spinning it was in tune (as much as it could be)ā€¦ but with each update, patch, downtime etc... some slippage may have occurred.

But ya i do like comparing against stelarium and seeing if there is a regular differenceā€¦. Then we could apply a correction and look for things like hilda/chiron with possibly better accuracy
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Itā€™s never been quite i tune, I think. They never reseeded the galaxy after gamma. I think that is why Sol is not in synk.
The easiest check is to fly to earth an see where the Sun alignes. I think itā€™s quite a bit outside Virgo, at the moment. At least a few months of.
 

simulacrae

simulacrae
Han_Zen said:
Itā€™s never been quite i tune, I think. They never reseeded the galaxy after gamma. I think that is why Sol is not in synk.
The easiest check is to fly to earth an see where the Sun alignes. I think itā€™s quite a bit outside Virgo, at the moment. At least a few months of.
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Ya always been impressed with the galaxy generation and how so many stars match up and the alignments... Its probably a bit much to hope that the solar system matches up in its orbits :) I do remember many moons back there was a plantary alignment of some kind in reality and I went to see if it was the same in elites sol... it wasnt. But ya still fun to play with.
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
yelboc said:
It wont be Stellarium - having spoken to the creators, the model of the sky is highly accurate, as best as we have knowledge to make.

Regarding order, yes you are correct - their relative positions should tally. So maybe that makes it easier.

I suspect its more likely that if they are modelled with care, that its based on 2014 or 2000 positions or something like that. Nothing else has been wound forward to 33xx

Given we have the option to talk to 'god' here perhaps we should ask @Kay Ross :)
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Well volounteered! šŸ˜‰
Didnt Dr Ross leave FD? Do you still have contact details?
 

rOmiLaYu

rOmiLaYu
simulacrae said:
Interestingā€¦ seem to remember her on a FD stream this year talking about Odyssey planets.
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Yeah, I'm a little confused, as well. Because her bio on Twitter still says she is at Frontier. And I remember that stream very well, as well as the kerfuffle that prompted Arf to post the "stop harassing people" because people were @'ing her on Twitter. And that was well past 2/2020.
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
How about a ping to one of the CMs to ask whoā€™s the lead on astronomy/Stellar Forge nowadays?
Edit: Or even ask the question directly? Iā€™m sure theyā€™d pass it on to the right responder.
How about Sally?
 
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Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Anomynus1 said:
Surely Fdev wouldn't require odyssey to find Raxlaa? Actually they probably would... :(
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I would be surprised if they put Raxxla in Polaris. The system had such a prominent role in FFE. It's tied to the thargoid story line.
It would just feel weird. Technically it's no problem, but historically it is a system that has been visited a lot.
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Zieman said:
In E: D it isn't visited much, if at all - the permit lock.
What happened in ELITE / FE2 / FFE doesn't matter, just some retconning. :/
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It's possible. I just doubt it. FD has basically copied every news article from the Thargoid story in FFE and put them on Galnet or in tourist beacons. They seem to stick to that story (up until it branches).
 

Cmdr Judoker

C
Jorki Rasalas said:
Ok, still suffering RSI and not fit to fly so going to throw a new variant hypothesis into the arena for someone else to check out.

John Harper, author of ā€œAnd Here The Wheelā€ said (
Source: https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=152&v=mb8c2wB50QI&feature=youtu.be
) ā€œRaxxla itself, the mystery, who's rumours and sightings seem to ebb and flow on a 50 year cycle and we're approaching that 50-year peakā€

Dont know where he got that snippet from, but it does suggest Raxxla is a wandering/orbiting body with a period of approximately 50 years. Still favour my ā€œRaxxla in Solā€ hypothesis, so are there any bodies in Sol with a period of ~50 years? Yep! ā€˜2060 Chironā€™ (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2060_Chiron) is a 200Km diameter ā€œCentaurā€ asteroid, which orbits between the outer planets and the Kuiper belt (reminiscent of ā€œobfuscated on the outer rimā€?) that may be a minor planet &/or a comet (comet designation 95P/Chiron) with an orbital period of 50 years with perihelion of 8.4311 AU, just inside Saturnā€™s orbit. Its astronomical symbol (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_symbols) strongly resembles a key (ā€œPlace that isn't a place, door that is also the keyā€?).

It was discovered in 1977, is the first of the Centaur class asteroids, was even claimed by the press at the time to be the tenth planet, and there is a Chiron Orbiter Mission mission proposed for NASA.

So sounds like a good candidate for investigation!
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It feels to be in the right ball park. I know there's a rabbit hole here by I'm struck by some of the frankly dreadful English in the Raxxla Codex entry. And yes, perhaps it is that they didn't hire very good copywriters. But I feel that the author is levering in some ungainly phrases in there. The whole Greek myth thing, I think is pointing at Persephone and Demeter and the Eleusinian mysteries. The point being that Persephone disappears for part of the year and reappears for the spring and summer.
 
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