Must have been before I got my free Sidey!I might well be wrong here, but I seem to have a very vague recollection that Guardians of The Free Spirit did originally control the system, but very early BGS shenanigans got them ousted completely, bringing Sublime Order of Van Maanen’s Star to power there.
It’s on my list of things to re-read. Current bedtime reading is Wanted, and during day reading Drew’s recommended (non-lore) Salomé sequels...In the case of Van Maanen, the stories in Tales from the Frontier describe why it is a permit system.
Tried to find screenies, but didn't find any - there seems to be a gap in my archive between beta and release...Must have been before I got my free Sidey!
Or else my memory is even worse than I thought...
The Ancients of Mumu is a player faction, that references the KLF song. KLF took the name Ancients of Mumu from the The Illuminatus! Trilogy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Illuminatus!_TrilogyThanks to Jorki I started reading up on systems with descriptions.
Two permitted systems have descriptions stating that the inhabitants have a subterranean culture and are strictly guarded. Van Maanens Star and Ross 128.
The reason I mention these is because I think we’re being pointed to something inside a planet via Galnet, possibly in a system where a permit is required for entry.
Another permitted system I believe was alluded to was Phekda.
The Winking Cat Galnet article that states that "High-profile crimes such as this have resulted in the 'winking cat' motif becoming a popular anti-establishment symbol, appearing in advertising, graffiti and music. Ironically, the calling card of an art thief is now itself a culturally significant work of art.". By itself this would mean nothing but when reading Phekdas description the Ancients of Mumu is mentioned and if I’m not mistaken they too were a band that was a popular anti-establishment symbol.
The first Winking Cat article describes the very strict security measures to protect the artwork and mentions criminal a lot. This falls inline with Ross 128 in my opinion with its subterranean prisoner cells.
There’s also the Winking Cat article where the painting “Penance Street” is returned. I’m thinking Penance could be alluding to Penitentiary in reference to Ross 128.
One of the Far God cult articles mentions a survivor found underground in a cryopod. A female named Kiona O’Connor. Van Maanen’s Star is an underground society and there is an outpost named O’Connor there as well. As yet there’s no reason for Van Maanen, Ross 128, or Phekda to be permit locked.
Perhaps some of these random system descriptions are being used for more than just flavor text. Or I’ve read too much and are making connections out of nothing.
Linked to early Galnet story IIRC. Ban not implemented in-game.Check out the permit locked system of Peregrina.
Very strange description. Plague planet, any ship landing will receive wanted rating and will be banned from docking in another system.
Even though it has several surface outposts???
Found the old screenies, yay!Tried to find screenies, but didn't find any - there seems to be a gap in my archive between beta and release...
So, mark that as my wishful thinking for now.
Peregrina is from Out of the Darkness.Linked to early Galnet story IIRC. Ban not implemented in-game.
BodyID | Body | Ring | ParentID |
BodyID:0 | Sol | Asteroid Belt | |
BodyID:1 | Mercury | 0 | |
BodyID:2 | Venus | 0 | |
BodyID:3 | Earth | 0 | |
BodyID:4 | Moon | 3 | |
BodyID:5 | Mars | 0 | |
BodyID:6 | |||
BodyID:7 | Jupiter | Jupiter Halo Ring | 0 |
BodyID:8 | |||
BodyID:9 | Io | 7 | |
BodyID:10 | Europa | 7 | |
BodyID:11 | Ganymede | 7 | |
BodyID:12 | Callisto | 7 | |
BodyID:13 | Saturn | D Ring | 0 |
BodyID:14 | |||
BodyID:15 | Enceladus | 13 | |
BodyID:16 | Tethys | 13 | |
BodyID:17 | Dione | 13 | |
BodyID:18 | Rhea | 13 | |
BodyID:19 | Titan | 13 | |
BodyID:20 | Iapetus | 13 | |
BodyID:21 | |||
BodyID:22 | Uranus | ZetaCC Ring | 0 |
BodyID:23 | |||
BodyID:24 | Ariel | 22 | |
BodyID:25 | Umbriel | 22 | |
BodyID:26 | Titania | 22 | |
BodyID:27 | Oberon | 22 | |
BodyID:28 | Neptune | Galle Ring | 0 |
BodyID:29 | |||
BodyID:30 | Triton | 28 | |
BodyID:31 | barrycenter | 0 | |
BodyID:32 | Pluto | 31 | |
BodyID:33 | Charon | 31 | |
BodyID:34 | 90482 Orcus | 0 | |
BodyID:35 | Vanth | 34 | |
BodyID:36 | (307261) 2002 MS4 | 0 | |
BodyID:37 | Salacia | 0 | |
BodyID:38 | Actaea | 0 | |
BodyID:39 | Haumea | 0 | |
BodyID:40 | Hi'iaka | 39 | |
BodyID:41 | Quaoar | 0 | |
BodyID:42 | Makemake | 0 | |
BodyID:43 | (225088) 2007 OR10 | 0 | |
BodyID:44 | Eris | 0 | |
BodyID:45 | Sedna | 0 | |
BodyID:46 | Persephone | 0 |
Or orbiting Saturn.An unknown body orbiting between Saturn and Uranus???????
Mmmmmmm!!!
The barrycenter is for the Pluto / Charon binary system. You see them in the system map, when there are binary stars.Very interesting. I like that it has barrycenter too.. will have to play with this technique
Hmm I never thought I would be doing orbit calculation programs. I guess this is the timeAn unknown body orbiting between Saturn and Uranus???????
Mmmmmmm!!!
“2060 Chiron /ˈkaɪərɒn/ is a small Solar System body in the outer Solar System, orbiting the Sun between Saturn and Uranus.” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2060_Chiron
I’ve already posited that Chiron might be , but then why doesnt it show on scans? Maybe its the Omphalos Rift?
Ooo, interesting! Never tried that!Halley's Comet can be searched for in the EDO galaxy map, and is shows as being in Sol. In Horizons it can be searched for, and after showing a ton of other stuff in other systems it eventually shows that something in Sol has something with Halley in the name present.
Does this technique also give you the stations within system?Hi,
I made a complete list of bodies in the Sol system. This was done by scanning the nav. beacon and taking the data from the Journal log file.
BodyID Body Ring ParentID BodyID:0 Sol Asteroid Belt BodyID:1 Mercury 0BodyID:2 Venus 0BodyID:3 Earth 0BodyID:4 Moon 3BodyID:5 Mars 0BodyID:6 BodyID:7 Jupiter Jupiter Halo Ring 0BodyID:8 BodyID:9 Io 7BodyID:10 Europa 7BodyID:11 Ganymede 7BodyID:12 Callisto 7BodyID:13 Saturn D Ring 0BodyID:14 BodyID:15 Enceladus 13BodyID:16 Tethys 13BodyID:17 Dione 13BodyID:18 Rhea 13BodyID:19 Titan 13BodyID:20 Iapetus 13BodyID:21 BodyID:22 Uranus ZetaCC Ring 0BodyID:23 BodyID:24 Ariel 22BodyID:25 Umbriel 22BodyID:26 Titania 22BodyID:27 Oberon 22BodyID:28 Neptune Galle Ring 0BodyID:29 BodyID:30 Triton 28BodyID:31 barrycenter 0BodyID:32 Pluto 31BodyID:33 Charon 31BodyID:34 90482 Orcus 0BodyID:35 Vanth 34BodyID:36 (307261) 2002 MS4 0BodyID:37 Salacia 0BodyID:38 Actaea 0BodyID:39 Haumea 0BodyID:40 Hi'iaka 39BodyID:41 Quaoar 0BodyID:42 Makemake 0BodyID:43 (225088) 2007 OR10 0BodyID:44 Eris 0BodyID:45 Sedna 0BodyID:46 Persephone 0
Interesting to see that asteroid belts and planet rings are the same thing.
As you can see there are some bodyIDs missing. BodyID: 6 seem to be the asteroid belt (between Mars and Jupiter). BodyIDs 8, 14, 23 and 29 correspond to the rings of the Gas giants.
BodyID: 21 is unknown. It's an orbit between Saturn and Uranus. It could be the fabeled Halley's comet? I would have to do a similar check in Pareco, to get a better idea on how the comets are implemented.