The Quest To Find Raxxla

[Jorki Rasalas]

CMDR ChatGPT

Can you solve this puzzle "Place that isn't a place, door that is also the key what am I?"

Here are a few ways to interpret the puzzle you provided:

• "Place that isn't a place, door that is also the key": A keyhole is a small opening in a door that allows a key to be inserted to unlock the door. It is a place that isn't a place because it is a small hole or opening and it is also a door because it allows access to the locked space.
• The key, as it is the only thing that can open the door, so it is also the door.
• A password, it's not a physical place but it's something that allows access to a certain place and it is also the key.

Just an AI thought

Mmm,
Going along those lines, how about a permit? That’s a form of key/password

 

[mearmortal]

So after 8 years of looking, are we any closer to finding Raxxla? I'm all for the long answers, but yes or no would suffice, I get the feeling we are not, there is not enough info out there or we are missing something fundamental, either way, unless they want us to find it, I don't see how we can, 8 years is a long time looking.

 

[Emperor]

So after 8 years of looking, are we any closer to finding Raxxla? I'm all for the long answers, but yes or no would suffice, I get the feeling we are not, there is not enough info out there or we are missing something fundamental, either way, unless they want us to find it, I don't see how we can, 8 years is a long time looking.

No

 

[Emperor]

Mmm,
Going along those lines, how about a permit? That’s a form of key/password

indeed...

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

So after 8 years of looking, are we any closer to finding Raxxla? I'm all for the long answers, but yes or no would suffice, I get the feeling we are not, there is not enough info out there or we are missing something fundamental, either way, unless they want us to find it, I don't see how we can, 8 years is a long time looking.

Since we dont know what it is or where it is, then that question is unanswerable.

We may have found it, just not realised it!

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Hi Jorki,

Think I've also said I take much of what DB said before launch with a pinch of salt as it was a pitch/marketing process to gain more sales/players....

I was just looking at the info back when the game was being developed and how fluid the design/build phases were right up to launch rather than a meticulously planned game and full narrative/lore.... or that's how it felt to me from being involved in the testing and feedback.

In terms of the beta references and honking ("if the reference to honking and leaving being in Beta 2.1 was true"), I was referring to others I've seen over the years that referenced the beta....

e.g. From 2019...

Raxxla? :: Elite Dangerous General Discussions

Is raxxla a thing in this elite? or is it just mere speculation, and if it has been discovered is it permit locked?

steamcommunity.com

"FDevs mention that the system was "honked", in beta 2.1, however not fully explored and since the data has been wiped, it's a dead end."

Mate, I’ve looked at that rumour reference. Lower down the page it is clarified & it is obviously a typical Internet rumour mishmash; a conflation of Drew Wagar’s report of DB’s statement that at the time of the beta “Raxxla is in game” together with the much later report that MB had said that “the Raxxla system had been visited & honked but Raxxla was not discovered”.

Ascorbius was the source of that later report, his stream about it should still be available somewhere & IIRC I didn’t hear him report anything about when that honking incident occurred, and certainly nothing about it being during beta! It could therefore have been at any time from the beta to the version live during the Lavecon17.
(See m.twitch.tv/cmdrascorbius/clip/SnappyScaryMousePupper)

I PM’d him & asked Ascorbius for clarification of the date of that MB statement and and he told me:
“It was during a closed Q&A session - I'm trying to recall whether it was Lavecon or the later ECM in Reading. It was the last Q&A Michael Brookes was at.

I'm pretty sure it was Lavecon 2017 in the Q&A. There were a load of things announced there, Crime and Punishment and the early views of AX weapons as well as Search and Rescue.
I've also just checked Michael Brookes announced he was stepping away from Elite at Lavecon 2017 so it's pretty unlikely to be the ECM Reading.

The memory is hazy given that I've been to a few Lavecons and ECMs and recollections after the fact are unreliable but I'm pretty sure it was Lavecon 2017.

But I absolutely was there when he said it, it's sad there's no footage with it being a closed Q&A, but there were a lot of people in the room.

I didn't go to Lavecon 2016 or 2015 so it's definitely not that those.”

So, as I said before...Raxxla system may “have been visited and honked but Raxxla not discovered” (there is no corroboration of this report, but I think it is credible) but it could apply at any date and anywhere in the game universe from 2014 through 2017. That’s an awful lot of universe.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Edit:
BUT from a gameplay, lore and common sense viewpoint I agree that (while it could be anywhere) it is highly likely to be near to the centre of the bubble, so Sol for the later game and Eranin (I think) for the beta game. But, if so then its system has almost certainly “been honked but Raxxla was not discovered” very many times! So the question is WHY are we not discovering it? Almost certainly it is not a normal astronomical body. It might be a moon (e.g. Saturn’s Atlas or Janus from my earlier reasoning) that is not normally visible & you have to exit SC with 50Km to see it (perhaps the true meaning of the invisible “comets”?), or a piece of Guardian graffiti saying “Raxxla was ‘ere”, or something 10+k ls from the ecliptic, or ...... or ...... ???

Edit2:
I’ve just been looking again at “everything we know about Raxxla, everything else is supposition”, i.e. My earlier post, to which I’ve added Drew Wagar’s reports of what DB said during the beta period at the Bafta ceremony, plus the Codex entry and Logo. I am more convinced than ever that Raxxla is (or is in) a disguised station (either Coriolis or Asteroid) in the bubble, and we may need to drop out of SC within 50Km to see it. I’m wondering again if the logo is a map telling us where to look, trying to put a new interpretation on it. Do we know what type of station Jaques originally had? I remember reading he had to upgrade it & wondering if we are actually looking for the original?

Edit3: the Wiki says he originally bought Peters Base, a Coriolis orbiting Facece. Perhaps his 40-year wanderings (does that make him the “vagabond”??) from then to his eventual misjump in his new Orbis might be a factor in finding Raxxla? But dont think they are documented.

 

[Macros Black]

Edit:
BUT from a gameplay, lore and common sense viewpoint I agree that (while it could be anywhere) it is highly likely to be near to the centre of the bubble, so Sol for the later game and Eranin (I think) for the beta game. But, if so then its system has almost certainly “been honked but Raxxla was not discovered” very many times! So the question is WHY are we not discovering it? Almost certainly it is not a normal astronomical body. It might be a moon (e.g. Saturn’s Atlas or Janus from my earlier reasoning) that is not normally visible & you have to exit SC with 50Km to see it (perhaps the true meaning of the invisible “comets”?), or a piece of Guardian graffiti saying “Raxxla was ‘ere”, or something 10+k ls from the ecliptic, or ...... or ...... ???

Edit2:
I’ve just been looking again at “everything we know about Raxxla, everything else is supposition”, i.e. My earlier post, to which I’ve added Drew Wagar’s reports of what DB said during the beta period at the Bafta ceremony, plus the Codex entry and Logo. I am more convinced than ever that Raxxla is (or is in) a disguised station (either Coriolis or Asteroid) in the bubble, and we may need to drop out of SC within 50Km to see it. I’m wondering again if the logo is a map telling us where to look, trying to put a new interpretation on it. Do we know what type of station Jaques originally had? I remember reading he had to upgrade it & wondering if we are actually looking for the original?

Edit3: the Wiki says he originally bought Peters Base, a Coriolis orbiting Facece. Perhaps his 40-year wanderings (does that make him the “vagabond”??) from then to his eventual misjump in his new Orbis might be a factor in finding Raxxla? But dont think they are documented.

Details for the station in the wiki: https://elite-dangerous.fandom.com/wiki/Jaques_Station

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Details for the station in the wiki: https://elite-dangerous.fandom.com/wiki/Jaques_Station

Yes, I had another look before my post at that wiki entry & also for stations & Coriolis. It’s that undocumented 40 year period of wandering (& is the length of that period significant?) between leaving Facece and his appearance in HIP 110620 in Feb 3301 that I find interesting. Nor are we told when he upgraded from the Coriolis to an Orbis, only that he did so. Why? And what became of the old Peters Base Coriolis??

We dont know much about the very early stations, except from the wiki I think they were similar to current Coriolis but smaller. But were they the same shape or just similar? I’m wondering if the outline of one would match the logo.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

And I’m drinking a ginger tea and pondering the hexagonal shapes of the Logo....needs a good brandy added!

A hexagon is an efficient mechanism for maximising spatial use with minimal materials, which is why bees use it for storage in honeycomb. Which brings to mind Thargoids, who are said to be an insectoidal species (though Ive not seen any evidence yet for that). Also the Guardain glyphs are based on repeated use of rotated triangles, which builds a basically hexagonal pattern - see the pic Artefacts for Decrypt the Guardian Logs mission on https://canonn.science/codex/ram-tah-decrypting-the-guardian-logs/

That same hexagonal/multiple triangle theme is also used by the Pilots Federation in the Navigation panel....

 

[Rochester]

BUT from a gameplay, lore and common sense viewpoint I agree that (while it could be anywhere) it is highly likely to be near to the centre of the bubble, so Sol for the later game and Eranin (I think) for the beta game. But, if so then its system has almost certainly “been honked but Raxxla was not discovered” very many times! So the question is WHY are we not discovering it? Almost certainly it is not a normal astronomical body. It might be a moon (e.g. Saturn’s Atlas or Janus from my earlier reasoning) that is not normally visible & you have to exit SC with 50Km to see it (perhaps the true meaning of the invisible “comets”?), or a piece of Guardian graffiti saying “Raxxla was ‘ere”, or something 10+k ls from the ecliptic, or ...... or ...... ???

Edit2:
I’ve just been looking again at “everything we know about Raxxla, everything else is supposition”, i.e. My earlier post, to which I’ve added Drew Wagar’s reports of what DB said during the beta period at the Bafta ceremony, plus the Codex entry and Logo. I am more convinced than ever that Raxxla is (or is in) a disguised station (either Coriolis or Asteroid) in the bubble, and we may need to drop out of SC within 50Km to see it. I’m wondering again if the logo is a map telling us where to look, trying to put a new interpretation on it. Do we know what type of station Jaques originally had? I remember reading he had to upgrade it & wondering if we are actually looking for the original?

Edit3: the Wiki says he originally bought Peters Base, a Coriolis orbiting Facece. Perhaps his 40-year wanderings (does that make him the “vagabond”??) from then to his eventual misjump in his new Orbis might be a factor in finding Raxxla? But dont think they are documented.

Jaques…

Yes, this has been a mumbling theory in my mind too, just near the back…

Tornqvist, aka Thorn Branch to my knowledge (other than to that noted in the Codex) has no correlation towards a Cora, especially not the Greek ‘Kore’, she who was abducted to the underworld, there isn’t any symbolism nor direct link between her and ‘thorns’.

The codex tells Cora is a drunk, but Greek mythology ‘Kore’ didn’t get drunk… her mother did… so unless the reference in the codex isn’t a reference to Demeter, then Tornqvist is potentially irrelevant… however one or both ought to be of relevance, somehow, unless it’s a FD in-joke or red- herring!

I like your description of Jaques as a wanderer, he fits the profile, more than any Greek reference, which generally is too wide IMOP. There’s no direct reference to ‘thorns’ nor branches with Demeter that I can recall… nothing definitive.

However the name Tornquist does appear in Galnet previously, in relation to ‘Colm Tornquist’ of the Imperial Herald article about the Facece system.

I always thought there might be some link between Facece and the DW codex as it does possess a brown dwarf / gas giant with 8 moons!

Facece is also well positioned within the same area of Pandemonium, and is really close Achenar, plus Facece has a permit.

Then we have a potential link… the underworld!

Pandemonium can hypothetically be attributed as a celestial South Pole, many of the Yggdrasil systems seem to align with this John Milton sphere of influence, with a division of an upper ‘heaven’ and lower ‘hell’ areas…

Kore was dragged to Hell…Tornquist links to Facece; which itself is very close to Pandemonium…the capital of hell..

A coincidence?

I’m currently grinding the Facece permit in my vanilla second ‘legacy’ PS4 account, never actually been to Facece in my mothballed backers PC account (to my knowledge), but as I’m tooling around the underworld this looks tantalising…

Post in thread 'The Quest To Find Raxxla'
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-10050277

*Facece shown in green just above Achenar, at the bottom of the image in white, as well as all systems discovered up to 2296, red denotes pandemonium.

 

[ClaraRulesSpace]

fwiw, I agree on the lore

my outburst was simply brought on by seeing the same repeated info too many times
I never want to discount anyones effort

It just made me finally snap a bit to see the temp and the technitium conversation repeating itself again. These I see as relevant but not important and my explanation said why I feel that way.
Perhaps 10 million years ago it was actually important, today millions of years of evolution on both sides seems to me has made that information pointless because Thargoids are so much more(probably) advanced that these 2 points mean very little.
But tbh, we have no idea if they ever changed at all.
I also threw in the time travel bit, because I also think the timeline on the 'rumor' of Raxxla is meaningless. some mechanic on a ship long ago is enough to make the claim.
After that, it is a repeat and means nothing if not one other person has his very OWN clue. except that the clue/rumor is there.
plus The Doctor is a British creation , loved by all and often has cameo's in many other things.

finding any more clues or any more links to any path is going to be by finding more stuff.
I am quite curious about all the crashed ships and similar the Other Raxxla thread is uncovering.

Finding the brine pool mankind came from is also a path, not one that interests me though and it leads to everything.

So for me, this was more about Focus.
that we have computers and can take very organised notes, is not always reflected in some comments.
some of my posts have taken many days to compose,

and then there is the other ed games, my eyes slam shut every time I see stuff quoted from them.
They are not this game, not this version, not a lot alike tbh. and this has been made clear by many. to me it is a given, as I only played the original and nothing is what it was.

As for the multi-mystery, I do believe they are intertwined.
like any movie, a researcher/explorer, some bad guys to prevent you succeeding...but who is/are the bad guy/s
Greed explains mankinds actions
What explains Thargoid or Guardian actions.
from a movie perspective, we are the bad guys. to me this has always been clear. Our governments refuse to stop mining MA's. even used in the recent CG, just begging to be destroyed

I want to find Raxxla and I want our Governments to wake up or be destroyed.
If the Thargoids and the Guardians and the Humans are all after the same goal, something is very wrong and humanity is always at the center of wrong.
we want peace - edit: THIS, is a lie, we all want to rule the galaxy. but peace is a good cover

if the oldest living creatures in the galaxy know anything about that, it would not surprise me in the least.
If they are trying to prevent us from getting to it, would not surprise me.
If they are trying to prevent the Guardians from returning, would not surprise me.
the rumors are many, a few started by me. my favourites started in this thread.

the most important lore is the lore we have not discovered. this gets written as it is discovered.
un-like the restaurant at the end of the universe, Raxxla might be the 'Key' to everything but might be in a similar situation/state


cmdr Milesred/ Q GT70/ Paladin

Very nice work.

I had a similar idea with the ruins being directional instruments but looking at it from another way (which is probably not going to lead anywhere).
As a Druid with a previous job which allowed me to travel Europe i continued some work a friend started on the alignment of key stone structures (Carnac, Stonehenge, Brownshill etc) and many lined up to a central point when viewed on a map that allowed for the curvature of the Earth.
Maybe this was a directional indicator maybe just coincidence, who knows.
My research (on the guardians) is nowhere near your expertise ,good luck in your endeavors, discovery is a wonderful thing.

O7

Nothing is a coincidence. The linchpin or the markings and the layouts on the platforms. Because groups like canon push this as merely decoration on most of the clues and identifying marks of what you were actually looking for we’re ignored. I am breaking down the formula of these platforms right now. For several weeks I thought they all just symbolize something and we’re perfectly symmetrical, but upon taking a closer look I am finding discrepancies in the cemetery. These things are laid out very particularly and the obelisk that accompany them are pointing to different things.
The Alpha complex is where you learn the language of guardian navigation. My guess is you have to apply this same language to the more complex structures as you move through the puzzle

 

[Emperor]

Edit:
BUT from a gameplay, lore and common sense viewpoint I agree that (while it could be anywhere) it is highly likely to be near to the centre of the bubble, so Sol for the later game and Eranin (I think) for the beta game. But, if so then its system has almost certainly “been honked but Raxxla was not discovered” very many times! So the question is WHY are we not discovering it? Almost certainly it is not a normal astronomical body. It might be a moon (e.g. Saturn’s Atlas or Janus from my earlier reasoning) that is not normally visible & you have to exit SC with 50Km to see it (perhaps the true meaning of the invisible “comets”?), or a piece of Guardian graffiti saying “Raxxla was ‘ere”, or something 10+k ls from the ecliptic, or ...... or ...... ???

Edit2:
I’ve just been looking again at “everything we know about Raxxla, everything else is supposition”, i.e. My earlier post, to which I’ve added Drew Wagar’s reports of what DB said during the beta period at the Bafta ceremony, plus the Codex entry and Logo. I am more convinced than ever that Raxxla is (or is in) a disguised station (either Coriolis or Asteroid) in the bubble, and we may need to drop out of SC within 50Km to see it. I’m wondering again if the logo is a map telling us where to look, trying to put a new interpretation on it. Do we know what type of station Jaques originally had? I remember reading he had to upgrade it & wondering if we are actually looking for the original?

Edit3: the Wiki says he originally bought Peters Base, a Coriolis orbiting Facece. Perhaps his 40-year wanderings (does that make him the “vagabond”??) from then to his eventual misjump in his new Orbis might be a factor in finding Raxxla? But dont think they are documented.

if you are considering beta bubbles at all, there was more than one... there was the spherical 50 system bubble and then the lozenge bubble of 500 systems and then 2500 systems lastly I believe before going the whole lot... think the one below was the 500 system one from memory based on the "Beta 2.04" on the screen cap but I'd have to check the release notes...

Beta 1.00 spherical bubble can be seen below... (I have a list of the systems in this bubble - I actually have a few more than the 50 as it's from multiple sources/videos... The videos provided most of them but some websites referenced other ones which took it over 50 so open to human error but pretty sure the list covers the 50 that were available at the time)

 

[ClaraRulesSpace]

"So the reason no one is solving any of the puzzles is because guys like yourself come on talking like you actually know everything about the game and discouraging them from studying the clues because as you say they are useless."

I think this sums up your entire outpouring whether your ideas have merit or not?

Feel free to have differing views as others.... as many people on here have said many, many times... until you find it, your guess is as good as anyone else's....

I wish you luck on your exploration and I hope you do find what you're looking for and are proved right, it would certainly close off a journey we've all enjoyed and hated...

I started reading the Lore again. A bunch of phrases jumped out that I hadn’t noticed before.
No one was interested in guardian art so they didn’t pay attention to these particular logs. But the logs state that guardian art was not an expression of emotion or self. They liked their art to depict practical tasks. In other words, all of their art looked like instructions of some kind. It goes on to say they were incredibly fond of geometric shapes and used them to relate to everything in their environment. There’s your geometric abstract element.
None of the markings are decorative. All of them have a purpose or an instructional reason.
Then there are the glyphs. I just submitted a bunch of glyphs along with some Thargoid symbols for analysis because they were found together in a video. There were eight of each. Someone in that lab told me that they were only four glyphs because the other ones were just a reversal or an inverted version of the first four.
Wrong. The Lore says the changing positions sometimes dictate motion, and change the meaning of the word. So does the mirroring of two symbols turned facing each other or turned opposite each other. All of these things change the meaning of the actual glyph. So this is an extremely limited written language that changes meaning every time you change the position of its characters.
Basically, the lore has been taken as a story element in the game when it was actually a textbook type school lesson on what you were supposed to be paying attention to. Gamers do not sit down and turn on the console to go to class. And no other video game is quite this complex and has this many hidden clues or inferences so I’m not surprised a lot of people missed it. What surprises me as the older more experienced people that had piloting experience did not recognize some of these clues and leads to begin with. A lot of guys flirt with me in the game and tell me they used to be a pilot or they own their own boat and they completely missed obvious navigational tools looking them right in the face.
I have been forced to take a more homework approach to this puzzle which stings a little bit because I got this game to fly and explore. Now I’m stuck in front of my TV going over pages and pages of guardian homework. But in my mind seven years is way too damn long. I want my boots on the home world and I don’t care how long it takes to figure it out.
girls need to shop
V

 

[ClaraRulesSpace]

Which one?

I think it’s all one big puzzle.
here’s what I’ve got, the ruins were a navigational net work. And I was mistaken before, what I thought were signs of habitation were actually encoding of giant symbols that could be seen from orbit.
The alpha is the simplest one so it’s the one we are trying to crack. Once we understand the language of the markers and symbols we will move through the rest of the ruins. Possibly onto the structures but I’m not sure that’s where it will lead. Here’s why
The monolith net work was informational and defensive. The one thing that our precious engineer did not really establish is that the structures and the ruins are two completely different sets of tools. That’s what I am starting to discover. There is navigational information laid out in the structures but there are far more layers and they are more complex.
The ruins themselves were simply navigational tools. But there are layers upon layers of information there. The markers on the upper platforms are there to specify very specific objects. While at the same time marking the position and distance of other sites in the cluster you occupy, which are laid out in a way that lines them up with the distant Guardian regions in other places along the disk. The alpha actually looks like it was laid out in a way to point out where all of the guardian colonies were. Or other sets of ruins at least.
While I thought the ground markers were simple iconography that operated in the same way the icons on the dash of your car do I started to find discrepancies in the symmetry. Some of the markers have additions or subtractions of certain ground plates along with obelisk, only certain obelisk are smashed or broken telling me it was deliberate and not something that happened over time. Only certain artifacts are placed a certain way. They change position as you move from ruin to ruin. So what I have found is at least three layers in what seems to be a combination location puzzle.
I would love to say I think it’s gonna lead me to the Guardian home but I’m just getting started and barely scratching the surface, I believe that these ruins will lead me to the next set of ruins which would be beta. I think the Alpha info is rudimentary and designed to give you a basic understanding of how to read the civilization. And the beta ruins should lead me to gamma. But I honestly believe that’s where it ends for navigation. These things tell you where everything is and why they are important. I believe the encoding in the maps of the structures is how you get access to the codes to get into the locked areas. Baby steps
V

 

[Emperor]

I started reading the Lore again. A bunch of phrases jumped out that I hadn’t noticed before.
No one was interested in guardian art so they didn’t pay attention to these particular logs. But the logs state that guardian art was not an expression of emotion or self. They liked their art to depict practical tasks. In other words, all of their art looked like instructions of some kind. It goes on to say they were incredibly fond of geometric shapes and used them to relate to everything in their environment. There’s your geometric abstract element.
None of the markings are decorative. All of them have a purpose or an instructional reason.
Then there are the glyphs. I just submitted a bunch of glyphs along with some Thargoid symbols for analysis because they were found together in a video. There were eight of each. Someone in that lab told me that they were only forklifts because the other ones were just a reversal or an inverted version of the first four.
Wrong. The Lord says the changing positions sometimes dictate motion, and change the meaning of the word. So does the mirroring of two symbols turned facing each other or turned opposite each other. All of these things change the meaning of the actual glyph. So this is an extremely limited written language that changes meaning every time you change the position of its characters.
Basically, the law has been taken as a story element in the game when it was actually a textbook type school lesson on what you were supposed to be paying attention to. Gamers do not sit down and turn on the console to go to class. And no other video game is quite this complex and has this many hidden clues or inferences so I’m not surprised a lot of people missed it. What surprises me as the older more experienced people that had piloting experience did not recognize some of these clues and leads to begin with. A lot of guys flirt with me in the game and tell me they used to be a pilot or they own their own boat and they completely missed obvious navigational tools looking them right in the face.
I have been forced to take a more homework approach to this puzzle which stings a little bit because I got this game to fly and explore. Now I’m stuck in front of my TV going over pages and pages of guardian homework. But in my mind seven years is way too damn long. I want my boots on the home world and I don’t care how long it takes to figure it out.
Call Eddie girls need to shop
V

interesting theory...

"The Lord says the changing positions sometimes dictate motion, and change the meaning of the word. So does the mirroring of two symbols turned facing each other or turned opposite each other. All of these things change the meaning of the actual glyph. So this is an extremely limited written language that changes meaning every time you change the position of its characters." - did you really mean "the Lord"?? and what do you base this on and do you have some evidence to demonstrate it?

in terms of the images you mentioned can you put them on here?

"None of the markings are decorative. All of them have a purpose or an instructional reason." - what do you base this on and do you have some evidence to demonstrate it?

It seems to me you have an idea and are at the beginning of trying to prove your hypothesis, but you also make factual statements without proper explanation and with any evidence to back it up in my humble opinion. It's always great to have new ideas and if you need some thoughts/suggestions/help you probably need provide a bit more information (well for me anyway!)

 

[ClaraRulesSpace]

interesting theory...

"The Lord says the changing positions sometimes dictate motion, and change the meaning of the word. So does the mirroring of two symbols turned facing each other or turned opposite each other. All of these things change the meaning of the actual glyph. So this is an extremely limited written language that changes meaning every time you change the position of its characters." - did you really mean "the Lord"?? and what do you base this on and do you have some evidence to demonstrate it?

in terms of the images you mentioned can you put them on here?

"None of the markings are decorative. All of them have a purpose or an instructional reason." - what do you base this on and do you have some evidence to demonstrate it?

It seems to me you have an idea and are at the beginning of trying to prove your hypothesis, but you also make factual statements without proper explanation and with any evidence to back it up in my humble opinion. It's always great to have new ideas and if you need some thoughts/suggestions/help you probably need provide a bit more information (well for me anyway!)

Not trying to be sarcastic, but if you had read the logs you would know what phrases I’m talking about. There are phrases all throughout the Guardian logs and the hints are subtle.
I am using dictation. Every time I say the word lore Siri seems to get confused. So she substitutes Laura, Lord, and law, I try to correct it but sometimes I just can’t keep up with the . I have an entire Google photo album with certain phrases circled or underlined from the logs.
Crap. My link didn’t work. I will post it again
V

 

[ClaraRulesSpace]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/2HwR9V4gJ7wKvJBH6

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

Do we know what type of station Jaques originally had? I remember reading he had to upgrade it & wondering if we are actually looking for the original?

Peter's Base was a Coriolis. If memory is serving me correctly, per "All that Glisters" he was instrumental in it's construction. It is therefore possible that Facece was originally known as Vetitice.

The Vetitice connection..

If one of the planets in Facece used to be called Vetitice, my guess is we are looking for the first Coriolis with dimensions of 1 kilometer on a side (modern Coriolis stations are 2 kilometers on a side). Shape should be isohedron and look very similar to a Guardian Orb - just obviously much larger. The one in Lave is the first full-scale version, I believe.

Modern Coriolis stations are cuboctahedrons with a 2-kilometer diameter. When it was first introduced by GalCop, the design had a much smaller diameter of 1 kilometer, but beginning in the 3200's the size was increased. By the 3300's, although new Coriolis stations continue to be built both within the Core Systems and out in the frontiers of the Colonia Region and Pleiades Nebula, maintaining them has become more costly as parts have become more difficult to procure or manufacture.[1]*

* - Per Elite Encounters RPG

In other words, are the Coriolis stations in Facece the current dimensions or not?

Approximate shape we are looking for..

Though, the major problem here is does it really match with the Raxxla Codex? No obviously but would be something concrete that would not immediately stand out unless you paid really close attention. Though, orbital installations would be really good for hiding something.

 

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https://photos.app.goo.gl/2HwR9V4gJ7wKvJBH6

So the Ram Tah lore and his discoveries, yes I've read those but not in details for some time. Whilst I haven't personally ruled out that Raxxla is the construct, not knowing what it is means I haven't ruled out much

So weren't the glyphs used to identify which type of Guardian ancient artifacts you needed to complete his mission?