It has just struck me, regarding the previous discussion on the hypothesis, that Raxxla might be a Guardian site, is that Guardians themselves might be described as vagabonds. At least those that departed in the ark ships sent to colonise alien worlds, since their homes were later destroyed by both Thargoids and the AI constructs.

So does the Toast have any different meaning if it said from the Guardians’ viewpoint? (i’m still of the mind that the PF is run by a Guardian AI).
 
It has just struck me, regarding the previous discussion on the hypothesis, that Raxxla might be a Guardian site, is that Guardians themselves might be described as vagabonds. At least those that departed in the ark ships sent to colonise alien worlds, since their homes were later destroyed by both Thargoids and the AI constructs.

So does the Toast have any different meaning if it said from the Guardians’ viewpoint? (i’m still of the mind that the PF is run by a Guardian AI).
Suppose Raxxla was 'findable' pre-Horizons, could it then be located on a planet?
 
It has just struck me, regarding the previous discussion on the hypothesis, that Raxxla might be a Guardian site, is that Guardians themselves might be described as vagabonds. At least those that departed in the ark ships sent to colonise alien worlds, since their homes were later destroyed by both Thargoids and the AI constructs.
Adding to this: being fond of conditions in asymptotic giant branch stars would necessitate frequent moves as when the star switches phases or goes into the more active variable phase it might just render planets uninhabitable (it is a rather unique stellar evolution sequence that can go main sequence several times). On the AI front, if there are Guardians who survived an attempted annihilation moving and staying low-key may be a key to survival. It is one of reasons I am concerned about Guardian and Humans AIs. We have been sending signal flares advertising our location. If we are deemed to be Guardians because we used their weapons, we might be next.
 
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Suppose Raxxla was 'findable' pre-Horizons, could it then be located on a planet?
If this bit is accurate to where FDev took the concept then, yes. In fact, the orbital installations and surface installations may be part of something much larger. This is from "Alien World: A Complete Illustrated Guide". This is why I had to invest so much effort into proving unambiguously Earth was in the lore from the beginning. I suspect Faraway is the repaired Talmor Lens built in error at Earth. It took us from 2296 (or slightly before) to the 2800s to repair the damned thing. If so, all the artificial structures, artificial power sources, installations (orbital and surface) are part of it. Though, I suspect we still don't understand all parts of it entirely. The stations and outposts have broadcast antenna that are broadcasting signals to make jumping out of supercruise at the right spot easier. Surface ports have dishes that look like 3-part solar arrays but are broadcasting signals. If you see live routing written on something, it is very likely connected.

It then becomes a question of what does it do exactly? Why do our fleet carriers upload telemetry prior to jumps? Why further, are there engineering data mats suggestive of similar external configuration of jumps for smaller ships. Is that why Quirium story was invented, since we had been using Hydrogen fuels since the beginning (even Tritium is Hydrogen-3). Also, were the firmware updates to block access to parts of the galaxy via navigation computers. We know every single ship manufacturer still uses the Astrogator Console created by Augustus Brenquith of Saud Kruger.

If we can find the globular cluster that it all points towards we might get a better idea. If I'm close to where they took the concept of Raxxla, the rumor of someone flying through a system with it may have meant one tiny fraction of the entire thing. Honestly, I suspect Raxxla may be far larger than the Human Bubble itself.
 

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I really need to take a large recon limpet controller and go digging through the Primary Transport installations and see if we can unearth an manual of sorts for this damn thing. The larger the recon limpet controller the faster you can hack.

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It has just struck me, regarding the previous discussion on the hypothesis, that Raxxla might be a Guardian site, is that Guardians themselves might be described as vagabonds. At least those that departed in the ark ships sent to colonise alien worlds, since their homes were later destroyed by both Thargoids and the AI constructs.

So does the Toast have any different meaning if it said from the Guardians’ viewpoint? (i’m still of the mind that the PF is run by a Guardian AI).
Would the toast describe any of the Guardian systems in a certain order for example?
 
To the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies!
To the whisperer in witchspace, the siren of the deepest void!
The parent's grief, the lover's woe, and the yearning of our vagabond hearts.
To Raxxla!
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I'll be honest. It is less of a specific guide and more of a primer as to what drives The Dark Wheel.
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1st segment: Home or current location
From a humans' perspective our home system (or where we currently are located), would be the only place where the local star would appear like a jewel on the backdrop of Milky Way Galaxy. You can observe this when in supercruise. It will be be important later that the Alleged Toast references "vagabond hearts". The organization were first and foremost explorers.

2nd segment: Call to adventure from Heroes' Journey

This is where the explorer leaves everything that is familiar. Basically, wanting to see the galaxy but also having to deal with the dangers of Witchspace in order to heed the siren of exploring the vast unknown.

3rd segment - part A - "the parents' grief": From The Dark Wheel codex, some parents went to great lengths to explicitly prevent their children from joining. Working in space was dangerous enough in human controlled space. It was far more dangerous facing the complete unknown. All you had to rely upon were your instincts, your ship and whatever equipment it carries, and navigation of the unknown blind. Beyond exploration, the organization is rumored to harbor deadly secrets. Further, there is the physics angle, where the child may far outlive the parents due to travelling at relativistic speeds. A child joining may mean even if the child lives that the parents will never see them again.

3rd segment - part B - "Lover's Woe" - Try maintaining family or romantic relationships when you live more for your ship and what is out there. These people have chosen a life of solitude. It is hard putting down roots when you are a CMDR. Space is your love. You pretty much have forsaken the creature comforts humans are used to as a species.

3rd segment - part C - "vagabond hearts" - I don't think this needs much explanation but you never settle down. As an Elite Explorer, I spend most of my time far from home. Home is aboard my fleet carrier or one of my ships. There isn't really settling for an easy life. A refusal to return to the normal world is common and is actually part of Heroes' Journey.

4th Segment - "To Raxxla" - To join The Dark Wheel is to commit yourself to exploration and seeking mysteries, and the unknown.

 
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Since the topic of The Dark Wheel was brought up might as well mention something. These folks (if they exist), apparently are quite devious when it comes to naming schemes. The Dark Wheel according to legend is based out of a disused toroidal station and thus the organization's name. Well, a ring is form of torus so I decided to check public scan records for known stations involving Ring in the name. Is it a consistent name for a specific type of station? Oh, hell no. That would be far too easy. It includes outposts, coriolis stations, orbis stations, and ocellus stations. So apparently finding the station the proves they exist may be much more complicated than first thought. The list with increasing distance from Sol is here:

 
Just rolling backwards to an idea concerning the swarms of Stargoids around the bubble.

Many Cmdrs are potentially associating Witch’s Reach permit system as a focal point.

If we compare Witch’s Reach in relation to the alignment of ‘first settled’ systems, and a sphere of influence set by the date 2296, it does fall very neatly within this alignment; without any other evidence to the contrary - it’s not outside the realms of possibility that the Stargoids (spiralling stars) might be also looking for Raxxla, remember FD had alluded they are ‘looking for something’, and with Witch’s Reach being the centre of this it’s a plausible outcome, it being locked would likewise fit with the theory of Raxxla being a narrative device.

However we have the issue that the codex preceded the Stargoids by some considerable time, so if only a narrative foreshadowing device, it would mean it was either injected far too early, or the Stargoids were around much earlier (but either invisible or bugged) or FD set up this foreshadowing to both retcon previous lore and effectively bait us.. . a concept which I find particularly distasteful..

I’m not satisfied with this logic, which is flawed, as it makes the existence of the Codex redundant, unless our perception of FD and their opinion of us is greatly inflated…

Being a romantic I still like to hold on to our various theories of Raxxla being elsewhere and accessible…. We can only hope.

Still it might help go someway in establishing a hypothesis that ‘Cora and Tornqvists treasure’ is somewhere in this vicinity?

Currently in Legacy PS4 grinding the Facece permit, in my vanilla second account ‘Roy’ - I know the system will already be well documented, but I want to undertake some Mki eyeball scanning and at least strike it from my list.

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Facece shown in green just above Achenar, at the bottom of the image in white, as well as all systems discovered up to 2296, red denotes pandemonium.

Witches Reach is the central green system. The two yellow systems are part of the Yggdrasil systems denoting two of the Norns (fates).

Post in thread 'The Quest To Find Raxxla'
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-10069806
 
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Suppose Raxxla was 'findable' pre-Horizons, could it then be located on a planet?
I would say yes. As long as no one has found Raxxla, FD can change aspects of it.
If these changes does not create continuity problems for the ingame reality, thy could do it.

The Zurara was changed from an Anaconda to a megaship. The active component of Raxxla (Omphalos rift / Alien construct) could be moved from a hidden low orbit USS, to a surface site.
This would only conflict with our meta understanding of the mystery and I doubt FD cares about that. 😁
 
However we have the issue that the codex preceded the Stargoids by some considerable time, so if only a narrative foreshadowing device, it would mean it was either injected far too early, or the Stargoids were around much earlier (but either invisible or bugged) or FD set up this foreshadowing to both retcon previous lore and effectively bait us.. . a concept which I find particularly distasteful..

I’m not satisfied with this logic, which is flawed, as it makes the existence of the Codex redundant, unless our impression of FD and their opinion of us is greatly exaggerated…
Don't forget in the real world FD put all resources in to on foot stuff in 2018? and the subsequent disaster launch (and necessitated fixes) and not forgetting consoles held back the story line for ages to until they finally gave up and allowed people to move just before starting the fun again with the goids...

Which has had me thinking could they turn Elite/founders missions again?
 
To the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies!
To the whisperer in witchspace, the siren of the deepest void!
The parent's grief, the lover's woe, and the yearning of our vagabond hearts.
To Raxxla!
----
I'll be honest. It is less of a specific guide and more of a primer as to what drives The Dark Wheel.
----
1st segment: Home or current location
From a humans' perspective our home system (or where we currently are located), would be the only place where the local star would appear like a jewel on the backdrop of Milky Way Galaxy. You can observe this when in supercruise. It will be be important later that the Alleged Toast references "vagabond hearts". The organization were first and foremost explorers.

2nd segment: Call to adventure from Heroes' Journey

This is where the explorer leaves everything that is familiar. Basically, wanting to see the galaxy but also having to deal with the dangers of Witchspace in order to heed the siren of exploring the vast unknown.

3rd segment - part A - "the parents' grief": From The Dark Wheel codex, some parents went to great lengths to explicitly prevent their children from joining. Working in space was dangerous enough in human controlled space. It was far more dangerous facing the complete unknown. All you had to rely upon were your instincts, your ship and whatever equipment it carries, and navigation of the unknown blind. Beyond exploration, the organization is rumored to harbor deadly secrets. Further, there is the physics angle, where the child may far outlive the parents due to travelling at relativistic speeds. A child joining may mean even if the child lives that the parents will never see them again.

3rd segment - part B - "Lover's Woe" - Try maintaining family or romantic relationships when you live more for your ship and what is out there. These people have chosen a life of solitude. It is hard putting down roots when you are a CMDR. Space is your love. You pretty much have forsaken the creature comforts humans are used to as a species.

3rd segment - part C - "vagabond hearts" - I don't think this needs much explanation but you never settle down. As an Elite Explorer, I spend most of my time far from home. Home is aboard my fleet carrier or one of my ships. There isn't really settling for an easy life. A refusal to return to the normal world is common and is actually part of Heroes' Journey.

4th Segment - "To Raxxla" - To join The Dark Wheel is to commit yourself to exploration and seeking mysteries, and the unknown.

To the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies!

To the whisperer in witchspace, the siren of the deepest void!

The parent's grief, the lover's woe, and the yearning of our vagabond hearts.

To Raxxla!


Or the "to" could mean "go to" with the 3rd statement being a warning/explanation of what Raxxla is...

Or indeed it might be all "fluff" (forgive me Dr Stroud) or just some other riddle answer...

Unless you're holding back some evidence of your theory? 😉
 
Don't forget in the real world FD put all resources in to on foot stuff in 2018? and the subsequent disaster launch (and necessitated fixes) and not forgetting consoles held back the story line for ages to until they finally gave up and allowed people to move just before starting the fun again with the goids...

Which has had me thinking could they turn Elite/founders missions again?
How true.

They well might and I suspect they will…

The Codex was introduced circa 2018, Project Watson leak stated legs were slated for 2020. So it’s feasible?

Also when I questioned Support, they inclined (via a Dev) that the removed DW missions were a ‘story arc’ if those were ever to be switched back on, they replied as an unknown!

I hope it’s not a narrative element, my gut tells me it likely is, I think a lot of what has been heard from the horses mouths was either out of context or poorly phrased.

My heart would beg to differ, the best thing FD could do is have Raxxla as a never ending story.

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The very short explanation is that regardless of culture you are interpreting the Alleged Toast of The Dark Wheel through it should end up approximately at the Northern Celestial sphere as viewed from Earth. Interpretation varies but my personal favorite each step is part of the Thetis / Achilles myth. In this one, Achilles shield serves as the map which essentially centers on Polaris. Achilles is important because in Elite Dangerous they produce robots. It is our mortal flaw insofar as the story, and explains much of the real history of INRA and Mycoid. Honestly, given the fact there is no body at the Jameson crash and Alioth was a robotics hub tied to Achilles Corporation I wouldn't strictly rule out that the logs were done by a robot. Stack is one moon away from the crash and could have arranged for the ship's crash.

Honestly, the ideas have grown to be a great deal more complicated than this document suggests insofar as how one finds Raxxla. Presently, I am not sold on the idea that is primary site but it is HUGELY IMPORTANT. I have several other versions that deal with Holdstock. At some point, I suppose a new write up would be good. The problem is the sheer scale of it all and how many plot lines were involved. Each piece tells a separate part of how humans were impacted and the efforts to keep it quiet.
 

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The best you can realistically get from the Alleged Toast of The Dark Wheel is a rough region - though that region happens to essentially revolve around Polaris. The same can gotten from Voyager 2 probe in-game in Sol. Meanwhile, Voyager 1 and New Horizons point in-game pretty much directly at Polaris. Does that mean Raxxla is a lore-lock? Maybe so, but maybe not. Polaris is at a really weird location almost 433 LY from Sol and nearly 200 LY above the galactic plane. Sure anything is possible, but I am still suspect Raxxla (or its' active focal point) is a globular cluster near the core of the galaxy. There is enough to possibly suppose that Raxxla might be based Holdstock's writings that came out several years before the first game + TDW novella. All I can say is it is important and was in prior games lore. But, it's equally possible we never were intended to get specifics out of the Alleged Toast, too. Hopium is very potent motivator and I had to pull really obscure references to get to fit Achilles/Thetis.
 
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Introduction paragraph:
An intriguing cosmogony survived in a papyrus scrap about the early Spartan poet Alkman. He is commenting on a lost poem, and most of his commentary is lost as well. What remains is a creation story: the goddess Thetis emerges from primordial unformed matter and shapes it as a craftsman gives form to metal. She brings into being two principles, Poros (variously translated as Path, Resource, Possibility) and Tekmor (Limit, Binding Definition). In this way begin light and darkness, day and night. [Knox, 179]

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The funny thing is I never knew this existed untill Elite Dangerous. It was the jewel 💎 on the brow of the mother of galaxies that led me down this path. It was Alphecca/Alphekka (spelling in game) or Gemma, crown jewel of Corona Borealis. This little constellation has ties to Thetis and some stories end happily ever after some not so much.
 
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Introduction paragraph:
An intriguing cosmogony survived in a papyrus scrap about the early Spartan poet Alkman. He is commenting on a lost poem, and most of his commentary is lost as well. What remains is a creation story: the goddess Thetis emerges from primordial unformed matter and shapes it as a craftsman gives form to metal. She brings into being two principles, Poros (variously translated as Path, Resource, Possibility) and Tekmor (Limit, Binding Definition). In this way begin light and darkness, day and night. [Knox, 179]

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The funny thing is I never knew this existed untill Elite Dangerous. It was the jewel 💎 on the brow of the mother of galaxies that led me down this path. It was Alphecca/Alphekka (spelling in game) or Gemma, crown jewel of Corona Borealis. This little constellation has ties to Thetis and some stories end happily ever after some not so much.
This would help establish why in game the Gen ship Thetis is in the Nefertem system.

Nefertem was the Egyptian god of each morning's creation of day, associated with the lotus flower.
 
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Operation VIP

Goal: Get allied with all factions in selected systems coaxing a solid lead from a VIP passenger mission.

Ongoing systems getting all factions allied
Cupinook
Kushen
NLTT 19808
Nang Ta-Khian
LHS 2936
69 G. Carinae
Changda (Bondar Mines, Palladium)
Charunder

Completed all factions allied systems

10 Kappa Pegasi
15 Pegasi
61 Cygni
Aeneas
Aganippe
Alchita
Akandi
Altair
Antilope
Amun
Arcturus
Arexe
Aritimi (Griggs Hub, Palladium)
Arque
Arro Naga
Awawar
Aztlan
BD-18 3106 (Refinery)
BD+46 2014
Beta Trianguli Australis
Bevan's Hope
Biaris
Blatrimpe
Bunda
CD-33 8748
CD-35 9019
Cemiess
Czernovale
Dahan (Jorki)
Diso
Duamta
Elli
ER 8
Eravarenth
Epsilon Indi
EZ Aquarii
Finteno
Fong Wang
Gato
Gera
Gnowee
Gurney Slade
He Bo
He Pora
Heheng
Hesa
Heveri
HIP 86063
HR 5630
HR 571 (Shavyrin Terminal)
HR 4979
I Carinae
Katta
Kochole
Konduwa
Koller
Kui Xing
Kuk
Laumaia (Hirayama Enterprise)
Lave
LDS 413
Leesti
LFT 37
LFT 880
LFT 926
LHS 2477
LHS 2813
LHS 317
LHS 332
LHS 346
LHS 380
LHS 3872
LP 806-8 (Massacre)
LP 908-11
LTT 2974
LTT 4131
LTT 4487
LTT 4497
LTT 5131
LTT 5212
Lugh
Mantuate
Mariyacoch
Moyopa
Naits
New Yembo
Nott (Palladium)
Nuenets
Orerve
Orrere
Quator
Panomi (Lowry , Tritium)
Pareco
Rhea
Ross 529
Ross 1015
Ryu
Reorte
Riedquat
Seginus (Jones Station, Palladium)
Sesuang
Sirius
Skeggiko O
Slatus
Sol
Solati
Songzi
Sosong
Tamor
Tarach Tor
Tau Bootis
Tau Ceti
Ticushpakhi
Timbalderis
Tionisla
Toolfa
Thraskias
Upsilon Aquarii
Uszaa
V640 Cassiopeia
V886 Centauri
Varati
Vega
Yavas
Yawa
Zaonce
Zeta Horologii
Zeta Trianguli Australis (Guest City, High Tech)

Ships:
Rhuagh Hauler
Ryath
Passengers
Orca Passengers
Armed Passengers
Armed Trader

Consider to fit a small fuel scoop in the passenger ships for sightseeing trips. With respect to illegal passengers, make the ship a fast one!
Consider fitting a collector and cargo for limpets for the odd HGE's

Palladium delivery stations:
Quator Station, Quator
Cummings Platform, Koller
Chasles Landing, HIP 86063
Fort Harrison, Arcturus
Stewart Orbital, HIP 7564
Pugson Vision, Tau Puppis
Felice Station, Konduwa
Tyson Port, Slatus
Shavyrin Terminal, HR 571
Hirayama Enterprise, Laumaia
Griggs Hub [Aritimi]

Tritium delivery stations:
Solo Orbiter, Altair
Curbeam Hub, LHS 3872

Interesting systems:
Chicomoztoc https://www.edsm.net/en/system/id/8168/name/Chicomoztoc

Code:
$systems = Invoke-RestMethod "https://www.edsm.net/api-v1/sphere-systems?systemName=Sol&radius=20&showInformation=1"
$inhabitedSystems = $systems | ? { $_.information.allegiance }
$inhabitedSystems
 
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