“Woe woe thrice woe...tis the end of the world!”
(Up Pompeii quotation

“Woe woe thrice woe...tis the end of the world!”
Suppose Raxxla was 'findable' pre-Horizons, could it then be located on a planet?It has just struck me, regarding the previous discussion on the hypothesis, that Raxxla might be a Guardian site, is that Guardians themselves might be described as vagabonds. At least those that departed in the ark ships sent to colonise alien worlds, since their homes were later destroyed by both Thargoids and the AI constructs.
So does the Toast have any different meaning if it said from the Guardians’ viewpoint? (i’m still of the mind that the PF is run by a Guardian AI).
Adding to this: being fond of conditions in asymptotic giant branch stars would necessitate frequent moves as when the star switches phases or goes into the more active variable phase it might just render planets uninhabitable (it is a rather unique stellar evolution sequence that can go main sequence several times). On the AI front, if there are Guardians who survived an attempted annihilation moving and staying low-key may be a key to survival. It is one of reasons I am concerned about Guardian and Humans AIs. We have been sending signal flares advertising our location. If we are deemed to be Guardians because we used their weapons, we might be next.It has just struck me, regarding the previous discussion on the hypothesis, that Raxxla might be a Guardian site, is that Guardians themselves might be described as vagabonds. At least those that departed in the ark ships sent to colonise alien worlds, since their homes were later destroyed by both Thargoids and the AI constructs.
If this bit is accurate to where FDev took the concept then, yes. In fact, the orbital installations and surface installations may be part of something much larger. This is from "Alien World: A Complete Illustrated Guide". This is why I had to invest so much effort into proving unambiguously Earth was in the lore from the beginning. I suspect Faraway is the repaired Talmor Lens built in error at Earth. It took us from 2296 (or slightly before) to the 2800s to repair the damned thing. If so, all the artificial structures, artificial power sources, installations (orbital and surface) are part of it. Though, I suspect we still don't understand all parts of it entirely. The stations and outposts have broadcast antenna that are broadcasting signals to make jumping out of supercruise at the right spot easier. Surface ports have dishes that look like 3-part solar arrays but are broadcasting signals. If you see live routing written on something, it is very likely connected.Suppose Raxxla was 'findable' pre-Horizons, could it then be located on a planet?
Would the toast describe any of the Guardian systems in a certain order for example?It has just struck me, regarding the previous discussion on the hypothesis, that Raxxla might be a Guardian site, is that Guardians themselves might be described as vagabonds. At least those that departed in the ark ships sent to colonise alien worlds, since their homes were later destroyed by both Thargoids and the AI constructs.
So does the Toast have any different meaning if it said from the Guardians’ viewpoint? (i’m still of the mind that the PF is run by a Guardian AI).
No, good point. So unlikely to be a surface site, which Ive said before...old age catching up. No, it’s more likely to be a beacon or similar, or a way to access a beacon. Anyone checked beacons for hexagonal symmetry? Its a long time since I visited one.Suppose Raxxla was 'findable' pre-Horizons, could it then be located on a planet?
I would say yes. As long as no one has found Raxxla, FD can change aspects of it.Suppose Raxxla was 'findable' pre-Horizons, could it then be located on a planet?
Don't forget in the real world FD put all resources in to on foot stuff in 2018? and the subsequent disaster launch (and necessitated fixes) and not forgetting consoles held back the story line for ages to until they finally gave up and allowed people to move just before starting the fun again with the goids...However we have the issue that the codex preceded the Stargoids by some considerable time, so if only a narrative foreshadowing device, it would mean it was either injected far too early, or the Stargoids were around much earlier (but either invisible or bugged) or FD set up this foreshadowing to both retcon previous lore and effectively bait us.. . a concept which I find particularly distasteful..
I’m not satisfied with this logic, which is flawed, as it makes the existence of the Codex redundant, unless our impression of FD and their opinion of us is greatly exaggerated…
To the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies!To the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies!
To the whisperer in witchspace, the siren of the deepest void!
The parent's grief, the lover's woe, and the yearning of our vagabond hearts.
To Raxxla!
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I'll be honest. It is less of a specific guide and more of a primer as to what drives The Dark Wheel.
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1st segment: Home or current location
From a humans' perspective our home system (or where we currently are located), would be the only place where the local star would appear like a jewel on the backdrop of Milky Way Galaxy. You can observe this when in supercruise. It will be be important later that the Alleged Toast references "vagabond hearts". The organization were first and foremost explorers.
2nd segment: Call to adventure from Heroes' Journey
This is where the explorer leaves everything that is familiar. Basically, wanting to see the galaxy but also having to deal with the dangers of Witchspace in order to heed the siren of exploring the vast unknown.
3rd segment - part A - "the parents' grief": From The Dark Wheel codex, some parents went to great lengths to explicitly prevent their children from joining. Working in space was dangerous enough in human controlled space. It was far more dangerous facing the complete unknown. All you had to rely upon were your instincts, your ship and whatever equipment it carries, and navigation of the unknown blind. Beyond exploration, the organization is rumored to harbor deadly secrets. Further, there is the physics angle, where the child may far outlive the parents due to travelling at relativistic speeds. A child joining may mean even if the child lives that the parents will never see them again.
3rd segment - part B - "Lover's Woe" - Try maintaining family or romantic relationships when you live more for your ship and what is out there. These people have chosen a life of solitude. It is hard putting down roots when you are a CMDR. Space is your love. You pretty much have forsaken the creature comforts humans are used to as a species.
3rd segment - part C - "vagabond hearts" - I don't think this needs much explanation but you never settle down. As an Elite Explorer, I spend most of my time far from home. Home is aboard my fleet carrier or one of my ships. There isn't really settling for an easy life. A refusal to return to the normal world is common and is actually part of Heroes' Journey.
4th Segment - "To Raxxla" - To join The Dark Wheel is to commit yourself to exploration and seeking mysteries, and the unknown.
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The Dark Wheel
To the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies! To the whisperer in witchspace, the siren of the deepest void! The parent's grief, the lover's woe, and the yearning of our vagabond hearts. To Raxxla! — Alleged toast of the Dark Wheel[1] The Dark Wheel is a mythical, secretive...elite-dangerous.fandom.com
How true.Don't forget in the real world FD put all resources in to on foot stuff in 2018? and the subsequent disaster launch (and necessitated fixes) and not forgetting consoles held back the story line for ages to until they finally gave up and allowed people to move just before starting the fun again with the goids...
Which has had me thinking could they turn Elite/founders missions again?
This would help establish why in game the Gen ship Thetis is in the Nefertem system.
Introduction paragraph:
An intriguing cosmogony survived in a papyrus scrap about the early Spartan poet Alkman. He is commenting on a lost poem, and most of his commentary is lost as well. What remains is a creation story: the goddess Thetis emerges from primordial unformed matter and shapes it as a craftsman gives form to metal. She brings into being two principles, Poros (variously translated as Path, Resource, Possibility) and Tekmor (Limit, Binding Definition). In this way begin light and darkness, day and night. [Knox, 179]
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The funny thing is I never knew this existed untill Elite Dangerous. It was the jewelon the brow of the mother of galaxies that led me down this path. It was Alphecca/Alphekka (spelling in game) or Gemma, crown jewel of Corona Borealis. This little constellation has ties to Thetis and some stories end happily ever after some not so much.
Cupinook |
Kushen |
NLTT 19808 |
Nang Ta-Khian |
LHS 2936 |
69 G. Carinae |
Changda (Bondar Mines, Palladium) |
Charunder |
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