The Quest To Find Raxxla

yelboc

yelboc
Those are 2014 quotes, since which a lot has changed. The described scanning process was radically altered by FSS as well. Also there is to my knowledge no way to 'actively scan space' for dark systems as described - or have we all missed a major aspect of exploration (I don't think so) - Dark Systems is usually meant to mean systems with Brown dwarves etc. only afaik..
 

Vetinari

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yelboc said:
Those are 2014 quotes, since which a lot has changed. The described scanning process was radically altered by FSS as well. Also there is to my knowledge no way to 'actively scan space' for dark systems as described - or have we all missed a major aspect of exploration (I don't think so) - Dark Systems is usually meant to mean systems with Brown dwarves etc. only afaik..
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I was wondering the same but waited until someone whod played for longer said something. Does any of that bit about Dark Systems fit into any gameplay at all from that time or was it another idea that got shelved? (like Rogue Planets afaik) Have we been missing something a 'tiny bit obvious' all this time? Are there areas of the galaxy that arent mapped until a payer gets within so many LY and we dont even know it?....cue Donald Rumsfeld.

alexzk said:
But 1st need to confirm presence of rogue planets. I would suggest everybody to get a habbit check left panel EACH jump, especially in deep space where it is not flooded by stations.
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What am I looking for? I wouldnt know if a 'system' in the Nav Panel was significant or not would I? I usually scan for permit locked but a lot of times its just a meaningless name and string of numbers? Anything in particular to look out for? Any string of numbers or something, I still dont understand exactly what they mean but I know others including you can decipher them so just tell me what to look for.

Arent Rogue planets in game the ones that co-orbit a binary system not orbiting just one star? They have an x - designation on system map?
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Raxxla being a rogue planet, is possible. It is at least within the game-mechanics that were available in 2015. There has been several objects in the game, that did not pop up on the nav panel until you got close.

I don’t think the dark systems were implemented. All systems in the galaxy are visible in the galaxy map. Any findable rogue planet needs to be in a star system. As rogue planet is defined as a star class, it has to be implemented as a special type of secondary star.

If a rogue planet is it’s own system I’m afraid we have to punch the correct name in the galaxy map, to locate it.
 

John Stoutbeard

John Stoutbeard
To reiterate, the statements from 2014 may not be valid at all. But look at the wording, if this is true then we may have to 'actively scan the area of space' before we can 'travel through hyperspace to it' in that area. What the Stephen!?
I can't believe I've witnessed anything like this in the game as of mechanics. I find it hard to image how they have done this - since we have 'real star mode' in the map.
But if it's true then we may have not been able to 'uncover' these regions / systems / areas yet.

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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Machina Ergo Sum said:
Would be good if you can confirm. It would seem only Souvarine recanted but not the rest. 1 out of 3 is less weight than 2 out of 3 :)
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No, I would have believed it if MB had confirmed. Since he didn’t it remains as hearsay evidence & 1, 2 or 3 doesn’t really make it any difference. How many were in the room at the time? Perhaps 30 all supporting it....

As we’ve pointed out, whether true or false it doesn’t give any indication of the location, or nature of Raxxla to any practicable extent. Except perhaps it would lend some weight to the possibility that it‘s nature is more likely to be astronomical than artificial, or else it’s so far from the jump-in point that the original finder didn’t see it. I was just interested in nailing this rumour down as I don’t like loose ends. 🙂
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Vetinari said:
I was wondering the same but waited until someone whod played for longer said something. Does any of that bit about Dark Systems fit into any gameplay at all from that time or was it another idea that got shelved? (like Rogue Planets afaik) Have we been missing something a 'tiny bit obvious' all this time? Are there areas of the galaxy that arent mapped until a payer gets within so many LY and we dont even know it?....cue Donald Rumsfeld.



What am I looking for? I wouldnt know if a 'system' in the Nav Panel was significant or not would I? I usually scan for permit locked but a lot of times its just a meaningless name and string of numbers? Anything in particular to look out for? Any string of numbers or something, I still dont understand exactly what they mean but I know others including you can decipher them so just tell me what to look for.

Arent Rogue planets in game the ones that co-orbit a binary system not orbiting just one star? They have an x - designation on system map?
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No, the X in a system map denotes the barycentre of their orbit 🙂

Rogue planets are allowed in-game according to the Journal specification (since they appear in the “star type” which is the destination for hyperspace jumps). If they exist they will:
(1) form their own system (i.e. no primary star for them to orbit) and will hence have a low system mass so their name will end in A?-? (Google ED system naming convention) OR
(2) be shown in a system, but they will not have a circular or elliptical orbit but parabolic or hyperbolic so it will exit the system eventually.
 
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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
[VR] Panzertard said:
To reiterate, the statements from 2014 may not be valid at all. But look at the wording, if this is true then we may have to 'actively scan the area of space' before we can 'travel through hyperspace to it' in that area. What the Stephen!?
I can't believe I've witnessed anything like this in the game as of mechanics. I find it hard to image how they have done this - since we have 'real star mode' in the map.
But if it's true then we may have not been able to 'uncover' these regions / systems / areas yet.

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Interesting, I hadn’t seen that quote by MB before, but it does seem to support Rogue Planets as their own system type! Presumably they should show in “other” system tyoe in the galmap filter.

However that DB quote is from 2014 when they were still defining the game so it may have been overtaken by events. Certainly the concept of “dark systems” from the FD-sponsored books, which seems to be rogue planets, has been said (I have no reference) to be implemented as LYT type stars. I don’t think we can “scan for systems” as per the quote, only for bodies/objects within systems. We don’t seem to have a generally available mechanism to name our discovered systems (there woud be quite a few Jorki’s Rest around!) apart from Founder backers.
 
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Vetinari

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'Without that info...it will not be possible to travel through hyperspace to it'

So cant be 'in system' as need to be in system to scan it in the first place and we cant travel from system to system without FSD jump.

Which leaves the possibility that it was at least discussed and planned to have entire galaxy areas not fully shown on the GalMap? Was it on the cards to scan space in the same way as scanning systems? Or was it just Brown Dwarfs that wouldntbe shown on GalMap at first? Does any of this ring true with anything from those days at all? What on Raxxla was he on about?

Maybe we can ask fdev what was meant and whether it was implemented, it shoudlnt be breaking NDA?
 
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