The Quest To Find Raxxla

Vetinari

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On theory is it as was shot down by the enemy Thargs, one side shot down the other, I dint think about it at the site so never really looked for specific damage.

Others? Hard to say, just assumed all the others were result of some combat with humans either Mycoid or other, no reason to suspect otherwise...until now and thats a tinfoil suspicion but worth keeping in mind. Need more evidence...as usual :)
 

CMDR Kachkeis

CMDR Kachkeis
Hi there, I am new to ED since August and since September I am out in the black. I was really interested to discover the lore and Drew Wagar's videos about ED and Raxxla. So, since the day I heard about that I spent my time exploring and visiting DSSA-carriers going south from the bubble to Kepler's Crest, Formidine Rift, Errant marches, and now I am in the Perseus Arm and most of the time 35kLy away from home (Ehecatl system). I would not bet my grandma on the idea that Raxxla should only be looked for in the bubble, so I kept my eyes open for Raxxla and Dark Wheel hints. But hey, I am new and it's exciting. The thing with the "8th moon" triggered me and whenever I could, I scanned that one and/or took a screenshot of the undiscovered/unmapped system's map, even if there are many systems with 8th moons AND that do not fit the famous image with the station and the sun as background. As time goes by you just do the necessary, after wasting too much time with scans lol, but I have the screenshots and I will go on with that, don't ask me why, it's a new addiction ("well, now that I am here, why not take a pic...and if it fits the clues, why not scan the surface?").

Noob Question: Does it make any sense to do that, so far out in the black? How can I contribute in another way out here? o7

P.S: And no, forgive me, I haven't read all of the 986 pages.........yet ;)
 
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Elliot Coleman

Elliot Coleman
CMDR Kachkeis said:
Noob Question: Does it make any sense to do that, so far out in the black? How can I contribute in another way out here? o7

P.S: And no, forgive me, I haven't read all of the 986 pages.........yet ;)
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I'm not the most well-versed loremaster when it comes to all things Raxxla (and the many associated topics), so I can only offer this:

Scanning things out in the black is something you should do if you enjoy it. Being new to ED, I wouldn't focus solely on the whole Raxxla/Dark Wheel plotline, as there are a great many things to do (I'm soon to be trying my hand at competitive canyon racing, for example), and it would be a shame if you burn out due to being tired of exploration. It will happen eventually...I stopped playing for over a year simply because I didn't want the hassle of returning from Colonia (this was before fleet carriers, mind you).

As for reading the thread, I doubt anyone will fault you. I've been following it for two years and haven't read half of it.
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
CMDR Zulu said:
If this crash predates mycoid and human intervention, do we have any indication as to what caused it? Was there some sort of caustic object found near the crash site that caused ship malfunction? Have we found other thargoid crash sites with these caustic, ship degrading objects nearby them? What caused the Adamastor to suffer it’s damage? The same object that brought down the thargoid ship perhaps.

To put it bluntly, I think The probe, sensor, and link damage them as well. Why? I don’t know, but that may also explain what one of their motivations are and why they need meta alloys similarly to humans.
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Thargoids can be shot down without Mycoid. They can even crash on their own. If they crash, they will leak ammonia. Mycoid or not.
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
CMDR Kachkeis said:
Hi there, I am new to ED since August and since September I am out in the black. I was really interested to discover the lore and Drew Wagar's videos about ED and Raxxla. So, since the day I heard about that I spent my time exploring and visiting DSSA-carriers going south from the bubble to Kepler's Crest, Formidine Rift, Errant marches, and now I am in the Perseus Arm and most of the time 35kLy away from home (Ehecatl system). I would not bet my grandma on the idea that Raxxla should only be looked for in the bubble, so I kept my eyes open for Raxxla and Dark Wheel hints. But hey, I am new and it's exciting. The thing with the "8th moon" triggered me and whenever I could, I scanned that one and/or took a screenshot of the undiscovered/unmapped system's map, even if there are many systems with 8th moons AND that do not fit the famous image with the station and the sun as background. As time goes by you just do the necessary, after wasting too much time with scans lol, but I have the screenshots and I will go on with that, don't ask me why, it's a new addiction ("well, now that I am here, why not take a pic...and if it fits the clues, why not scan the surface?").

Noob Question: Does it make any sense to do that, so far out in the black? How can I contribute in another way out here? o7

P.S: And no, forgive me, I haven't read all of the 986 pages.........yet ;)
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Welcome!
I also have an awful lot of screenshots, including system maps, from 5 years of galactic adventure. You never know, you may stumble across a new mystery (e.g. there are probably still Guardian sites etc to be found). Play it the way you want, listen to other ideas then make your own mind up, explore your own ideas. Personally I’m not at all convinced by the “8th moon” hypothesis-there’s enough doubt cast in the Codex wording about Lyta Crane that I think it’s a red herring, but you never know until you know!

We’re always interested in anything you find, or any ideas you may have- stay in touch by ftl comms!
Fly safe Commander!
 
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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Vetinari said:
Shame they never gathered so alloys from the barnacles and built their 'cage' out of them, probably have fixed the whole problem.

Did realise that we 'learned' that Thargoid ships crashed before Mycoid or human interference, if that was ever in doubt as such, never really thought about it, all ships can crash surely, but tinfoil extrapolated to Guardians but no evidence...yet, I shall be keeping an eye out just in case.
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Ah, I now see the source of the confusion- I read your “crashed thargoid ships” as meaning the ones we have known about for some time out in the Pleiades...😳

As I understand the latest mystery the expedition led by Prof Carver set up a settlement on Musca Dark Region PJ-P B6-1 3 in the Coalsack region. They first found space barnacles and then a crashed alien ship with some artefact which they took back to the settlement for study. It caused equipment malfunctions so likely a UA (but could feasibly be a probe or link). Adamastor megaship returned & took the object, deploying soldiers via Sidewinders who started “sanitising” the site, but thargoid ship(s) returned and sucked all but one person up (Dr Derek Murphy, the geologist “stone watcher”) who was left behind in an srv which was later found crashed. There is no indication given at all as to why the alien ship crashed, there was no weapon or biological damage visible on those in the Pleiades from what I remember and none reported for the Coalsack wreck (yes, this expedition (3111j predated mycoid development (thargoid-human war started 3125, Thargoid War ends 3151 with mycoid delivery) but there might be naturally occuring organisms or substances which damage thargoid ships) according to the Canonn data archive; given we are soon to see real thargoids on the ground (with Odyssey) and the available lore descriptions of them (leaked FD pix and Out of The Darkness text) bear no resemblance to anything at any of the known thargoid crash sites then I hypothesise that the ships are piloted by some form of AI rather than the goids themselves, and that it can fail (never trust a computer, especially if it has windows 😁).

This Coalsack expedition was indeed well before mycoid, INRA etc, from the lore we have had up until now. The fact that the organisation (Azimuth Biochemicals in the Chukchan system) quickly deployed military force to wipe out the expedition members is interesting. Clearly they wanted no information leakage about the find, which suggests they might already have known about these aliens etc. I suspect Azimuth was operated by The Club and this incident led towards the later formation of INRA.

Afterthoughts:
1) thargoids had human bodies/subjects from this incident well before the war. We know they utilise tissue from alien species in their technologies.....

2) we are told that thargoids are insect-like. In bees the males (drones, however we are also told in the current lore that all goids are female - this may be false!) fertilise the queen then die. It could that this also applies to thargoids, with the drones, before dying, going off to spread barnacle spores. It may also be that this task is given to any/all goids near the end of their life. This would explain crashed goid ships, near barnacles, with no apparent cause.

3) ant societies are divided into various specialities-worker, queen, warrior. Might be goids are similar. Perhaps one speciality is barnacle seeding and harvesting.
 
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Vetinari

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CMDR Kachkeis said:
Noob Question: Does it make any sense to do that, so far out in the black? How can I contribute in another way out here? o7
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Hello, welcome to the rest of your life, one post and youre trapped now.

Sense? Thats debateable and largely perception based :)

I personally map every single H moon (8th moon), every co-orbiting G or I just in case, any 8th planet of the LYT stars that appear in the middle of a 'normal' orbit as an A body and not a separate B, C etc and anything that just looks 'suss'. All of that regardless of what the main Star is or anything else, if its 8 or H its getting mapped :)

The 'only' clue we have is that 8th moon that 'some' think still exists. (could well be the one in SD, makes perfect sense and 'oh look, it was such low power nobody could scan it until now...', I can see that happening as well)

So the 8th moon is the only 'solid' piece of info, if its true in the first place....

So up to you, personally I have added or 'rejected' 100s of 8th moons to EDSM for future people to study or use an algorithm or whatever, a lot of science is about eliminating possibilities so any data added from my POV is essential and vital, while youre travelling and exploring.
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Mmmm....the idea of TDW station being low power & stealthy falls down if you drop out of SC and just look-you’d see it! Unless TDW have used meta alloys to refract light around it so it is also invisible-remember the galnet post about some MA-based sculpture refracting light in unusual ways.....

Memorial to Highliner Antares unveiled 1July 3302 https://news.galnet.fr/galactic-news-memorial-to-the-highliner-antares-unveiled/
“The memorial depicts a stylised version of the Highliner Antares, and has been constructed using light-bending meta-materials that allow light to pass through the interior of the ship as it rotates. As the sculpture moves, the intensity of the light increases, reaching a crescendo of brilliance before subsiding.”
So maybe TDw station hunters need to be on the lookout for a “variable star” near a moon/planet.....🧐
Or maybe look for the glint of an orbiting station that is not present when you drop down.

So...how long have TDW been aware of MA? And are they in league with thargoids??? 🕷🕷🕷
 
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Vetinari

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have you seen Predator? That may be the best we can look for :)
Jorki Rasalas said:
Unless TDW...
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Or a dozen 'reasons' they can write in if they want to, they didnt explain why the barnacles in CSN were suddenly apparent and why we'd missed the ship wrecks before...we made up our own explanations, it was never explained, neither has the source of the binary message exactly....loose ends and things that dont make sense havent stopped a great story so far. Ill be cursing every other 8th moon for ever if it does turn out to be in SD but Ill still jump on the story, won't spoil it for me, I have to give some narrative leeway or put it down to 'The truth is out there'.
 

CMDR Zulu

CMDR Zulu
Jorki Rasalas said:
Mmmm....the idea of TDW station being low power & stealthy falls down if you drop out of SC and just look-you’d see it! Unless TDW have used meta alloys to refract light around it so it is also invisible-remember the galnet post about some MA-based sculpture refracting light in unusual ways.....

Memorial to Highliner Antares unveiled 1July 3302 https://news.galnet.fr/galactic-news-memorial-to-the-highliner-antares-unveiled/
“The memorial depicts a stylised version of the Highliner Antares, and has been constructed using light-bending meta-materials that allow light to pass through the interior of the ship as it rotates. As the sculpture moves, the intensity of the light increases, reaching a crescendo of brilliance before subsiding.”
So maybe TDw station hunters need to be on the lookout for a “variable star” near a moon/planet.....🧐
Or maybe look for the glint of an orbiting station that is not present when you drop down.

So...how long have TDW been aware of MA? And are they in league with thargoids??? 🕷🕷🕷
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I love this! We don’t know the full extent of cooperation or discovery that occurred on Soontill before it was “destroyed”. So I believe what you hint at may be plausible.

Also just to get into the weeds a bit, consider what Antares means. Anti-Ares. The foil to the god of war. Who’s’ equivalent is Mars.

The choice to name it Antares could be absolutely nothing, but if it’s analogous for TDW and their station it becomes significantly more fitting if you believe TDW is anti-The Club. Jorki’s going space crazy reading Galnet! I love it haha!

Here’s something for you guys that I haven’t gotten to look into thoroughly. Chess piece references in Galnet. Juanita Bishop, Consuela Knight, Corsair King, Katrien Rook, Rhea archipelago (Rhea might be Queen).

Could be nothing, but I consider the choices fascinating and will read into the associated articles more when I have the time. Before you say these names mean nothing, consider the fact that the Adamastor was named after a made up deity for a Portuguese odyssey-like epic who’s likeness was also found to be on Michael Brookes back piece and the emphasis of the names meaning (dangers of the sea or untamable) in the streams.
 

KanarchyEZ

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First of all im new here but researching the subject for quite a while like 4 months or so i think i have found something intriguing in codex there is a part about princess astrophel and spiralling stars (in some versions of the Raxxla story, which were later shown to have a striking resemblance to the children's story "Princess Astrophel and the Spiralling Stars" and consequently became discredited) so i searched for it and found astrophel and stella and i opened a book cipher. Again in codex there is a line (The earliest documented reference to Raxxla dates to 2296 and originates from an entry in the personal journal of Art Tornqvist) i looked into sonet 22 and sonet 96. sonet 96 starts with (Thought, with good cause thou lik'st so well the Night ) like night,Dark and sonet 22 starts with (In highest way of heav'n the Sun did ride ) to orbit,wheel and to cipher you need to numbers for a key i.e 22:96 2:2 and 9:6 or 9:6 2:2 i think dark wheel is the key might be onto something here or might be assumptions wish me luck commanders!
 
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KanarchyEZ

K
gonna try to find a system 22.96 ly away from sol or Sagitarius A(the jewel) after some time in notepad it just gives me words like knowledge,dark,heaven,she(dont know who),hatching,virtue,lose,want etc... it was futile LOL (or atleast i couldn't follow the path to solve something i dont know)
Edit: I Found 6 visited systems 22.96ly away from Sagitarius A RAXXLA has 6 letters PUFF RAXXLA Confirmed :D
Second Edit: 1 of the systems called
Stuemeae JM-W c1-3318 has estimated value of 545,806 credits according to edsm
 
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