The Quest To Find Raxxla

lorrad

lorrad
Scytale said:
Interesting. So, after all, it seems there ARE clues... on the skin of the Boss. He must be a fan of Prison Break too...
My two pence for the mix: ( beware, autism alarm ahead ! ;))
The star in the lower right quadrant of the tattoo might as well be Aldebaran (Alpha Tauri, 65 Ly from Sol and homing the Lovecraftian city of Carcosa ['You know Carcosa ?' True Detective]). We might see Derleth's Great Old One tentacular Hastur, the Indicible coming out of his den with his Byakhees all around. Can't remember the name of the scaled one...his servant iirc...
Concerned by the presence of the Archangel St Michael next to The Door or Gate (guarding from Lucifer/Loki ?). Can't remember any star specifically related to him which would help to furthermore confirm the Polaris-Sirius thing ...
Currently chasing our excellent Macros in the outer rim near BP... too far to investigate this tinfoil stuff ... :eek:

(Seriously, who in his healthy judgment would wear such a tattoo ? [haha] )
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Was sort of joking but I think there is a Raxxla Cthulu connection,,, in this wikipedia quote from Lovecraft..


I found myself faced by names and terms that I had heard elsewhere in the most hideous of connections—Yuggoth, Great Cthulhu, Tsathoggua, Yog-Sothoth, R'lyeh, Nyarlathotep, Azathoth, Hastur, Yian, Leng, the Lake of Hali, Bethmoora, the Yellow Sign, L’mur-Kathulos, Bran and the Magnum Innominandum—and was drawn back through nameless aeons and inconceivable dimensions to worlds of elder, outer entity at which the crazed author of the Necronomicon had only guessed in the vaguest way.... There is a whole secret cult of evil men (a man of your mystical erudition will understand me when I link them with Hastur and the Yellow Sign) devoted to the purpose of tracking them down and injuring them on behalf of the monstrous powers from other dimensions. —H. P. Lovecraft, "The Whisperer in Darkness"


There is a whole secret cult of evil men,,," line seem ported directly into The Dark Wheel and Premonition, connecting the Club and the Dark Wheel through it's use?
 
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Comandante

Comandante
lorrad said:
Ah ha!
Clear evidence of misdirection!
And only a glancing reference to Raxxla, 14th word on page 58 in chapter 6 of his 455 page book!
And yet visiting coordinates of all possible combinations of the numbers in all four quadrants, still no Raxxla!
Yet I see many have been there.boo
Suspicious absence indeed!

Don't all Cthulhu stories end with the gate opened and "Say anyone notice an off switch?"
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Wow, only ONE mention of Raxxla in his book? I don't have any of the books, I'd be grateful if you'd share the sentence with us (won't help us find it, just curious).
 

lorrad

lorrad
Comandante said:
Wow, only ONE mention of Raxxla in his book? I don't have any of the books, I'd be grateful if you'd share the sentence with us (won't help us find it, just curious).
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"As a girl she'd even dreamed of being the first pilot to discover Raxxla. Her father disapproved of such tales when she'd been a child. Even so, the desire to head into deep space called to her."

a paragraph of creamed wheat,,
though dreamed not dreamt

war of the grammarians
 

Scytale

Banned
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lorrad said:
There is a whole secret cult of evil men,,," line seem ported directly into The Dark Wheel and Premonition, connecting the Club and the Dark Wheel through it's use?
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Naaah... I bet on Skull & Bones :D
Seriously, we seem to have made a loop and be back to the a little bit obvious - thing, didn't we ?
 
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Comandante

Comandante
lorrad said:
"As a girl she'd even dreamed of being the first pilot to discover Raxxla. Her father disapproved of such tales when she'd been a child. Even so, the desire to head into deep space called to her."
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Thanks CMDR.

lorrad said:
war of the grammarians
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This is going a bit far now. First trying to bring Cthulu into the mix, and now you want to involve green-skinned pig-faced characters from Star Wars? This hunt for Raxxla is sending us INSANE!
 

Hanerib

Hanerib
I've been reading about previous Elite games again today, about various rumours and mysteries there used to be back then. Dredgers, 9th galaxy, generation ships, thargoid ships etc. Treasure hunting in outdated looking websites, searching for antique discussions about old mysteries. Gives great context for thought, and a certain contrast. Those were times when Elite Dangerous was still the upcoming Elite IV, if even that. The Raxxla we have in Elite Dangerous would most likely have been decided upon that time. I think it will be something simpler, attuned to the Elite series, and possibly never truly found.

I think I've seen the FSD operating beyond safety limits message before, in some neutron star/white dwarf system inside the bubble. Non-procedurally generated system. I don't think it's important, and could be replicated elsewhere.

The crystalline forest thing is a odd one, I have this, possibly a false memory, of seeing something unusual in a picture or somewhere, and have tried to search for information regarding it without success, a few times actually. It is being mentioned rarely. Confusion to barnacle sites seems obvious of course. I fear it's something they showed during some event, or expo, and then forgot about. I really hope Canonn succeeds in finding "alien tubeworms", in a way that would confirm there are things worth searching for.
 

Thatchinho

Thatchinho
Hanerib said:
I've been reading about previous Elite games again today, about various rumours and mysteries there used to be back then. Dredgers, 9th galaxy, generation ships, thargoid ships etc. Treasure hunting in outdated looking websites, searching for antique discussions about old mysteries. Gives great context for thought, and a certain contrast. Those were times when Elite Dangerous was still the upcoming Elite IV, if even that. The Raxxla we have in Elite Dangerous would most likely have been decided upon that time. I think it will be something simpler, attuned to the Elite series, and possibly never truly found.

I think I've seen the FSD operating beyond safety limits message before, in some neutron star/white dwarf system inside the bubble. Non-procedurally generated system. I don't think it's important, and could be replicated elsewhere.

The crystalline forest thing is a odd one, I have this, possibly a false memory, of seeing something unusual in a picture or somewhere, and have tried to search for information regarding it without success, a few times actually. It is being mentioned rarely. Confusion to barnacle sites seems obvious of course. I fear it's something they showed during some event, or expo, and then forgot about. I really hope Canonn succeeds in finding "alien tubeworms", in a way that would confirm there are things worth searching for.
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The Crystalline Forest is from the 2.2 launch video. Here you go: https://youtu.be/iojsbuOzEuQ?t=32

I've tried to link to the right spot in the trailer, but if it doesn't work for some reason it's at 32 seconds.

The subject gets discussed on the Geyser and Fumarole location thread periodically. Examples of the other known types of organic sites get found reasonably often, but no one's reported finding the Crystalline Forest yet.


I also get the random FSD Operating Beyond Safety Limits message in other systems, not just Sirius.
 

Thatchinho

Thatchinho
Agony_Aunt said:
That is total range without refuelling. It still requires multiple jumps.

You can also go a lot further if you use economical jumps. That calculation assumes max range jumps which are not very fuel efficient.

As for it being in range of a stock Cobra Mk3, well, you could still travel a long way in one. Even assuming 1.0 modules Beagle Point or thereabouts is technically speaking in range.

What i prefer to think about is the old FSDs which took a week to make a long jump and the 1 year decay on the drive system.

Bearing in mind people went to Raxxla and returned in their own lifetimes, then the far side of the galaxy is unlikely, and if we accept the 1 year need to repair the jumpdrive, then its not more than half a year away.

If we take a Frontier CM3 with a size 3 drive it has a 27LY range. Let's say 25LY average jumps, and 26 jumps (half a year), and that would mean Raxxla is within 650 LY of the old systems. Which fits with my pet theory that many people have been to the system where it exists and that its either well hidden or very far out from the sun.
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It would have been Type 1/Quirium drives (or a predecessor) for the discovery of Raxxla though. Is there something which has Raxxla being travelled to with Type 2s?
 

Louis Calvert

Louis Calvert

Jaiotu

Jaiotu
lorrad said:
[/I]There is a whole secret cult of evil men,,," line seem ported directly into The Dark Wheel and Premonition, connecting the Club and the Dark Wheel through it's use?
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Robert Holdstock did write a series of horror novels under the nom de plume of Robert Faulcon (Faulcon deLacy!). No telling where he got his inspiration but one cannot rule out the possibility of an influence from Lovecraft.
 

[DS]_Skol

[DS]_Skol
Hm i remember this thing from some russian forum - guy said he found it on spectrogram. On question where is it he said "You must do it yourself, otherwise there is no fun in it - but when you find it be ready to run really really fast out of there"
 
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Jaiotu

Jaiotu
[DS]_Skol said:
Hm i remember this thing from some russian forum - guy said he found it on spectrogram. On question where is it he said "You must do it yourself, otherwise there is no fun in it - but when you find it be ready to run really really fast out of there"
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By "spectrogram" do you mean the ZX Spectrum? If so then the guy in that forum is blowing smoke. A lot of people claimed to have found Raxxla back in the day playing the original Elite but those folks are/were Trolling. It's been confirmed many times by both David Braben and Ian Bell that Raxxla didn't exist in any of the game ports of the original Elite. In fact the name "Raxxla" wouldn't have been possible from the lookup table used by the original game to generate system names. Here's an old interview with David Braben confirming that Raxxla was not in the original game:
http://www.atlantis-prophecy.org/recollection/?load=interviews&id_interview=37
 

Comandante

Comandante
[DS]_Skol said:
Hm i remember this thing from some russian forum - guy said he found it on spectrogram. On question where is it he said "You must do it yourself, otherwise there is no fun in it - but when you find it be ready to run really really fast out of there"
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Jaiotu said:
By "spectrogram" do you mean the ZX Spectrum? If so then the guy in that forum is blowing smoke. A lot of people claimed to have found Raxxla back in the day playing the original Elite but those folks are/were Trolling. It's been confirmed many times by both David Braben and Ian Bell that Raxxla didn't exist in any of the game ports of the original Elite. In fact the name "Raxxla" wouldn't have been possible from the lookup table used by the original game to generate system names. Here's an old interview with David Braben confirming that Raxxla was not in the original game:
http://www.atlantis-prophecy.org/recollection/?load=interviews&id_interview=37
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There was the ZX Spectrum Elite 3 version (see worldofspectrum.org, Archive -> E -> Elite 3), adapted by Vladimir L. Kladov. I actually emailed him a few years back about the version, and he was kind enough to reply. I've actually got a snapshot of that version with my old Elite character. It's a neat version, too - missions keep spawning after you become Elite for every RoC, and there's a host of new missions in-game that are really cool. Also, Python's launch fighters as do rock hermits if you attack them. When heading out of a system, the further you go, the more chance you've got of finding asteroids if you want to mine. I strongly suggest reading the document that comes with it.

However, I do not think Raxxla is in it.
 

Jaiotu

Jaiotu
Comandante said:
There was the ZX Spectrum Elite 3 version (see worldofspectrum.org, Archive -> E -> Elite 3), adapted by Vladimir L. Kladov. I actually emailed him a few years back about the version, and he was kind enough to reply. I've actually got a snapshot of that version with my old Elite character. It's a neat version, too - missions keep spawning after you become Elite for every RoC, and there's a host of new missions in-game that are really cool. Also, Python's launch fighters as do rock hermits if you attack them. When heading out of a system, the further you go, the more chance you've got of finding asteroids if you want to mine. I strongly suggest reading the document that comes with it.

However, I do not think Raxxla is in it.
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That appears to be a Mod and not an official release, no? If so ... even if Raxxla made an appearance it wouldn't be official. I think someone had released an Oolite OXP that implemented Raxxla but that wouldn't count either.
 

MakashiGames

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Hey all.

Disclosure: I am totally convinced Polaris is system Raxxla is located in.

Question is how to get the permit.

I am intrigued by this observation that users get repeated warning that FSD is operating over safety limits when SC'ing in Sirius system. Some users state this happens in other systems, so a few questions on this. Have any of you guys noticed this happening in systems where super charging your FSD is invalid i.e. no White Dwarf or Neutron?

Further, is anyone aware of whether a bug has been raised ab out this? It sounds as if it's a bug to me and would obviously put this whole thought train to bed if they said it was a bug. Likewise, if Frontier confirmed this message is triggering as expected that is a legitimate lead..?
 

Scytale

Banned
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I had this happening from time to time in the Bubble ( never in the last 65 KLy en route to BP with a lot of WD systems ). The warning included this biohazard hull attack-thing. For me just one more bug... unless, just like happened with the Rift mYsTeRy, I am taking clues for bugs and bugs for clues.
Polaris would be in the outer rim of ...what ?
 
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Han_Zen

Han_Zen
MakahiGames said:
Hey all.

Disclosure: I am totally convinced Polaris is system Raxxla is located in.

Question is how to get the permit.

I am intrigued by this observation that users get repeated warning that FSD is operating over safety limits when SC'ing in Sirius system. Some users state this happens in other systems, so a few questions on this. Have any of you guys noticed this happening in systems where super charging your FSD is invalid i.e. no White Dwarf or Neutron?

Further, is anyone aware of whether a bug has been raised ab out this? It sounds as if it's a bug to me and would obviously put this whole thought train to bed if they said it was a bug. Likewise, if Frontier confirmed this message is triggering as expected that is a legitimate lead..?
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I've been to Polaris several times in FFE. If Raxxla is there, it's well hidden within the system.
Polaris was more of a Thargoid nest with two terrestrial Ammonia worlds, back then.

If Raxxla is in Polaris, there is more to it than getting the permit.
 
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