Magrathea - first search I ever typed into the star map, before I ever heard of Raxxla... Of course, it should be in the horse head nebula..

Can edsm tell me where I can get an infinite improbability drive?
 
In Tau Ceti we have the Hidden Mountain Estate installation.
I believe this to be a clue of what to look for. I have located more than 20 planets named after some of the most notable mountains, islands and rivers on Earth.

Meru, the location of Nysa (Elysia Fields).
According to legend, Meru is the center of the universe, like the Oracle at Delphi. In the mountain climbing documentary, Meru, the team gets less than 100' from the top on their first expedition, but must go back down and retry another day at a later date due to failed weather conditions.
Before their descent the climber says, "I guess the center of the universe is unobtainable after all."

In the system Wakea (the Sky father weds Papahānaumoku, the earth mother) we have the planet Meru and another planet named Robertson's Renown.
We also have the Alexandra station

In the 1982 movie Blade Runner there is a monologue called Tears In Rain. It is considered to be one of the most important scenes in all of sci-fi movie history. Harrison Ford is a detective tasked with killing replicants known as Nexus-6. He basically sees them as soulless robots. Rutger Hauer is his target replicant that saves Ford from sure death and exposes that he is in fact capable of human emotion and compassion and thereby Ford realizes that he was mislead this entire time.
In the scene Rutger Hauer talks of having been to the Shoulder of Orion (Betelgeuse or Bellatrix) and to Tannhauser Gate.
In the deleted scenes of Blade Runner we find that Tannhauser Gate is in fact a warp station.
In the system Laka (the name of two different popular heroes from Polynesian mythology ), we have the megaship, Shoulder of Orion.
We also have a star named Nexus737 in the system.

In the system Aztlan (A mythical city never found) we have the orbital Tannhauser Gate.

Wagner's Tannhauser is a Grand romantic opera in three acts
known as Tannhauser and the song contest on the wartburg.
The wording of the opera has a stunning similarity to the search for Raxxla.

In the system Col 285 Sector IT-W B16-2 we have the Heart of Orion Megaship.

In the 1990 movie Total Recall starring Arnold Schwarzenegger, Arnold is a character named Douglas Quaid and he wants to go to Mars.
There is a rebellion occurring on Mars and according to his tv's news feed an alien relic has been rumored to have been found in the mines there. He wants to go, but his wife talks him out of it. So he goes to a company named Rekall to have false memories implanted of an adventure to Mars.
He chooses the Secret Agent memory package known as Ego Trip.
He ends up on Mars and finds out that his name is actually Hauser. He locates a psychic mutant growing out of a mans stomach named Quato who requests that Hauser and him hold hands to transmit a message and he finds the secret alien relic, a giant machine capable of creating an atmosphere on Mars almost instantaneously.
This machine is being suppressed by the Tyrell corporation.
The film is loosely based on the Philip K. short story "We Can Remember It for You Wholesale".
This is the hand print on the machine to turn it on.
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In the Sirius controlled mining system, Robigo (The personification of Mars to protect harvests from wheat rust) we have 3 stations,
Quaid Vision, Hauser's Reach and Sitrotanovic's Legacy.

Alija Sitrotanovic was a Yugoslavian Mining hero who held the record for the highest yield.

We also have the mining system, Quator, previously controlled by the suspicious, Sirius affiliated company, Wreaken construction.

Much like the Total Recall relic, ours appeared to have influenced our capability to terraform Mars rather quickly on our second attempt,
and it too was no bigger than a child's hand.

I was planning on making a video on this but that time is yet to come.
 
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I've thought that also. It would fit both the time they let one person into the system we know they develop from that is off the galmap. It also fits the thing about someone having been in the system and not scanning but only refueling and leaving. It could have been the same thing. And it would explain ***ody doing it since. The only way to test it would be to get a lot of fuel rats and try to get ships near the system and the edge of the galmap to actually jump to it. Not sure how long that would take. Several years? Max speed is 2001c.... Probably have to get maxed out anacondas or corvettes or whichever has the maximum fuel capacity. Maybe a mix of them and try to fly and have fuel rats fly in and reset back to base and keep refueling along a chain of other ship if it's even possible. You could probably brute force to it's location if you really wanted too. Unless the time is too great. Call it the Raxxla Initiative.

You would have to leave one ship behind and keep going to it to refill. probably sending many ships at once or leaving meany ships behind to save time. Then have one ship go to the next while a group of other ships leaves ships at the next location and follow the line or ladder step to the next locations. Pre planning would save lots of time too. It would be funny to see fdevs reaction as a massive fleet of ships lowly makes it way to their hq in space!! ><

If you can get really fuel efficient ships you could send cutters as fuel depots and then have the most fuel efficient ship in supercruise simply follow and refuel over and over as other ship refuel along the way. Does that even make sense?! Actually a maxed out anaconda only needs 8 tons of fuel. So, you would be fine as long as you can get enough cutters in line and refuel on the way. It should last quite a while as a supply depot. I was thinking filing the anaconda with max fuel for travel. I wonder what ship gets the most milage in supercruise. I never did go over that aspect of the game.

Edit: why is the word *ody filtered out. I'm assuming this is a british filter and it's getting rid of the word *... no body is filter at the first three letters. That is a bad filter design.

Let me show you something
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHB7mRsVsr8
(it`s about jamps). The system itself is not necessarily located in the Andromeda galaxy. The system may be in a bubble, just hidden and you will not see it until you have administrator or access rights. We can build many theories about it. But I think it would be right to ask the developer if we can get there right here, right now, or there is no such possibility (maybe it is a future content). While the developer did not say specifics on this topic, moreover, some even refute it. Truth knows only Saint Braben. It will be Fair to the community. Because we can do an kill-time, spend time and energy into emptiness, and now for example, our forces are more necessary in protecting the bubble against thargoids, we losing. Or switched to the search for other riddles (in the game there are a lot of them).
 
Sadly you can’t Supercruise between systems, you just end up at a marker in space that says you’re right there, but aren’t until you actually jump.

That three letter word is an insult in British slang (and with some Americans), but it’s a horrible filter to filter based on partial matching that way...

You can't fly directly into a system. But if you can see it and point to it you can reduce the length to get in range of a system and jump to it normally. Assuming there are no other hinderences. Or at least I'm under the impression you can. I've flown directly to systems and jumped in. Or course I wasn't out of range in the original system either. So, I guess i haven't tested it thoroughly. I've been assuming you can get in range to make a normal jump if you are beyond max range though. I should test that at some point.

I wonder if we can get to ngc 1245 that way. or whatever its called just below the line between those two sectors near heart and soul. I bet it's never been visited. One is even called gen. something. It's probably doable though. Has anyone ventured there? It's supposed to be part of the persei something. I'm assuming it's out of place and maybe in development. Or just out of reach. Maybe it has clues in it.

Wait, can you get to 2001c and turn off flight assist and keep going with the throttle off?!
 
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Magrathea - first search I ever typed into the star map, before I ever heard of Raxxla... Of course, it should be in the horse head nebula..

Can edsm tell me where I can get an infinite improbability drive?

The "Heart of Gold" containing the experimental improbability drive that obsoleted the need for the Earth to be destroyed by the Vogons to make way for an interstellar bypass was apparently built on, and stolen from the planet Damogran but I can't recall if that was the same place the drive itself was invented.

According to Adams it's located some 500,000 Ly from Earth, which would place it well outside our current searchable zone, but still somehow in the opposite spiral arm to ours and it's also an atmospheric (mostly) water world we wouldn't be able to land on anyway.

So no, I don't think EDSM / EDDB / Inara will contain a listing. Nice try though.

The mythical Magrathea, on the other hand, is supposed to be within the Horse Head Nebula, much of which is currently permit locked but still presents a more achievable target. There could be some merit to the idea that the six part "to Raxxla!" tribute in the Codex contains triangulation vectors, including the recently renamed Delphi system containing the Oracle as an anchorage close to the human bubble.

Reverse engineering any clues to the location when considered from the perspective of the individual who put it there may by necessity contain some highly obscure references however. Imagine picking a single system within the Milky Way, and then attempting to draw multiple lines between six other points on the map that all meet perfectly at this single location, while everything within your map is in motion.

Even if they did all meet perfectly, they wouldn't do so for very long (in astronomical terms) assuming the model galaxy does actually emulate the real thing with some degree of accuracy in relation to linear time, as well as space. I've seen a couple of posts where timing has been floated as a variable so to take that a step further, does the "to Raxxla!" tribute actually contain three time references, as well as a further three to triangulate where we're supposed to be going in space?

"Timing is EVERYTHING!" is an alchemical phenomena, which I'll come back to...
 
The "Heart of Gold" containing the experimental improbability drive that obsoleted the need for the Earth to be destroyed by the Vogons to make way for an interstellar bypass was apparently built on, and stolen from the planet Damogran but I can't recall if that was the same place the drive itself was invented.

MakeMake

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makemake

A planet/Satellite in Sol fits this description.
 
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In Tau Ceti we have the Hidden Mountain Estate installation.
I believe this to be a clue of what to look for. I have located more than 20 planets named after some of the most notable mountains, islands and rivers on Earth.

Excellent thinking, linking and research CMDR!

While I've often got links open while rambling through Mostly Aimless posts in this thread there isn't always a convenient spot to include a link.

I'll attempt to remedy this going forwards.
 
MakeMake

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makemake

A planet/Satellite in Sol fits this description.

Hmm, I dunno? Half a million light years from Earth, not seconds and from your link this object was discovered in 2005, which was around four years after the unfortunate death of the author and at least a quarter century after Damogran was submitted for publication in The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.

[Edit: Damogran location and (hot) environment discussed in chapter 4]

Also, as mentioned in the post you quoted it's an "atmospheric (mostly) water world" which would place it significantly closer to it's stellar host. The Heart of Gold was stolen from an outdoor, public launch where none of the main characters required environment suits so 32~44 Kelvin (-241~-229C) is out.

That's also 20 odd years since the original Elite and Raxxla stories.
 
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There are in fact 9 planets in game named Gold, and one named Goldstein. From what I have found, Gold is the only planet that has 9 different ones by the same name.
In Van Maanen's star we have a planet named Major. If you put Major into your nav you will be led to Arcturus after Tau Ceti
and in Arcturus you will also find a planet named Discovery. Major, Discovery.
There are 4 planets named Major in the galaxy. Also in Arcturus you will find Richard's Rock, Richard's Mine and Arcas.
Arcus was a hunter who became king of Arcadia.
Also you find the stations, Harrison Fort (Blade Runner's Harrison Ford?) and several other named stations.
I have found 2 strong connections (Or odd easter eggs) in game related to Philip K (another name for Richard), shown above.
I have also found several seemingly important locations with Richards name in it, either as a planet or a station in a seemingly key location..
The system Richard's Gap in the Orion Nebula, the 2 planets Rich and Aust in Synuefe MU-V c16-0,
and Richardson in 70 Ophiuchi (The 13th unofficial constellation of the zodiac) are all suspect.

In LTT 606 you find A planet named Fraser and one named Moel Lefn, a mountain. Also you find a station named Jeremy and one named Journey to Arcadia.
In this blog related to a book we find a Marianne Arcadia from Elydian Dawn and she has a boyfriend named Jeremiah (Jeremy).
"Her inspiring story was something that motivated a young man to undertake a perilous adventure."
"Marianne was conceived either on Earth or maybe in space on the great colony ship Elysian Dawn."

In this system we find a Dark Wheel affiliated name, Neumann, whom has a station on Moel Lefn.
On this planet you will find 2 crashed anaconda's and one of them has a Thargoid Sensor.
 
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I was just referencing MakeMake was deity in Easter Island from Rapa Nui mythology.
Yes, yes it is, but if you listen to the linked chapter of the book that's not why that island on Damogran, or "France" were named as such.

The thick plottens, eh :p
 
I should put this out there, if only to muddy the waters even further...

We seem to be dealing with a game world which has become much greater than the sum of all it's parts, but how much of it is random tributes to DB's favourite science fiction writers and characters and how much has been specifically hand placed as a result of logical, contemporary astronomical wisdom?

To illustrate, quote: "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...."

Present day physicists seem convinced that galaxies, along with everything else in the mind bogglingly vast Universe move about very, VERY quickly. Therefore, a long time ago, OUR galaxy wasn't where it is now, it could only have been far, far away and there is plenty of conjecture out there on the interwebz to suggest the current level zero human civilisation was not the first, or the smartest to have lived here over the last 300,000 years or so according to dating estimates of anatomically current human remains (I'm going to have to dig around a bit for a concise link supporting this claim).

We appear to have lost the technology to replicate the Giza plateau, or the 800~900 ton Trilithon stones at Baalbek so who cut(?) and placed them, and far more importantly, when did they do it and why have the current batch of humans that repopulated the Earth forgotten how the previous folks did it?

We're about to embark down a rabbit hole of immense proportion. Please secure your tin foil hats in the upright position as we consider this youtube video that was conveniently uploaded yesterday. Ironically, when the student is ready, the master appears. For significantly more discussion on the subject of extinction level catastrophic events that have periodically struck the Earth (and daily cosmic weather reports), please continue to the channel linked therein with thanks to Jimmy, suspicious0bservers...

Edited to anticipate the next post...
Q. Er, Six, mate, how does this relate to Raxxla?
A. Umm, it doesn't exactly, it was more a reference to scale, in space and time.

We may need to expand the parameters of our tiny little monkey(?) brains somewhat :p

Edit, edit: For those who's minds are not sufficiently blown rudely out of shape yet...

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ
 
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At this point I'm on the thought process of taking a strong look at Tau Ceti and Van Maanen's.
I've compiled a spreadsheet of Every single asset in both systems and have used it to track the names of things in those systems into other systems through an extensive search of eddb's system, station, and bodies database for all names involved.
Both of those systems should know the whereabouts of Raxxla, or contain clues to finding it, whatever it may be. As a detective with no real clues to the whereabouts of the missing thing, these are all we have to start with. You may be surprised with what you find by doing this one simple thing and googling the names and words of the assets
to find out who and what the names and words are.

Another thing I've come to understand is who and what Art is in the codex. Art is a Ship Born Mechanic.
At first glance this may appear to say he was born on a ship and repairs them. But if you look at Art as a ship based game mechanic than he takes on a different function.

The DW is conducting tests. What is the one way that a faction tests us? Missions. That's all. That's the only venue through which we get contacted by anyone,
outside of Tip-Offs, which lets face it, are kind of dry. So using Art as a ship based game mechanic, where is the art? Possibly in the artistic depictions of characters?

Cora, she sounds like she likes to have fun. Either she's a rich social butterfly, a pirate or a rebel.
She seems to know of Pirate treasure, so she is likely to be in association with those factions. If she's a pirate or rebel, the suggestion below will make it easier to identify her.
And she clearly needs a ride in your ship to find it. Passenger missions maybe? Probably.

If you go to Tau Ceti or Van Maanen's star and take a look at their contacts you will notice that they have a tattoo on their forehead.
For Van Maanen's they have 4 hexagons with a leading line toward the center. There are 2 other forehead tattoos you will find in game as well.
One looks like a square bar code and the other, a single stripe that looks like a swipe of ash such as worn by the Gateway Jet Brotherhood, and some other factions.
Almost all pirate factions have one of the three, almost all of them. Some just have triangles or a set of hexagons tattooed on their neck.
I've been keeping an eye out specifically for passengers with one of the 3 tattoos. Sometimes I find them in non-pirate faction jobs.
They appear to always lead me to systems of importance in the history of the game and to systems which contain bodies named after mountains or rivers,
or something that can be tied to Tau Ceti or Van Maanen assets or even the DW affiliated stations Neumann and Paulson.
I'm not real sure if you're supposed to look for one tattoo type over the other at this point though.

I've been using these identifiers and have had some interesting results.

Once you ally yourself with Van Maanen your passenger missions contact for the Sublime order of Van Maanen goes from being Divine Galen Elliot that you meet in Tau Ceti to Kaylie Winters and her position is Pilgrimage Mentor,
you'd be the student is she's the mentor, and you appear to be on a pilgrimage to something.
They're the Guardians of the Free Spirit and they believe hardship is the way to live a full life.
 

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I should put this out there, if only to muddy the waters even further...

We seem to be dealing with a game world which has become much greater than the sum of all it's parts, but how much of it is random tributes to DB's favourite science fiction writers and characters and how much has been specifically hand placed as a result of logical, contemporary astronomical wisdom?

To illustrate, quote: "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...."

Present day physicists seem convinced that galaxies, along with everything else in the mind bogglingly vast Universe move about very, VERY quickly. Therefore, a long time ago, OUR galaxy wasn't where it is now, it could only have been far, far away and there is plenty of conjecture out there on the interwebz to suggest the current level zero human civilisation was not the first, or the smartest to have lived here over the last 300,000 years or so according to dating estimates of anatomically current human remains (I'm going to have to dig around a bit for a concise link supporting this claim).

We appear to have lost the technology to replicate the Giza plateau, or the 800~900 ton Trilithon stones at Baalbek so who cut(?) and placed them, and far more importantly, when did they do it and why have the current batch of humans that repopulated the Earth forgotten how the previous folks did it?

We're about to embark down a rabbit hole of immense proportion. Please secure your tin foil hats in the upright position as we consider this youtube video that was conveniently uploaded yesterday. Ironically, when the student is ready, the master appears. For significantly more discussion on the subject of extinction level catastrophic events that have periodically struck the Earth (and daily cosmic weather reports), please continue to the channel linked therein with thanks to Jimmy, suspicious0bservers...

Edited to anticipate the next post...
Q. Er, Six, mate, how does this relate to Raxxla?
A. Umm, it doesn't exactly, it was more a reference to scale, in space and time.

We may need to expand the parameters of our tiny little monkey(?) brains somewhat :p

Edit, edit: For those who's minds are not sufficiently blown rudely out of shape yet...

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ

ALL galaxies are far far away!
I have the t-shirt to prove it.
 
Now that we agree it has to be a movie reference to Raxxla, are we sure that it isn't linked to Police Academy? I'm pretty sure this is the winner! 1984 you know.
 
At this point I'm on the thought process of taking a strong look at Tau Ceti and Van Maanen's.
I've compiled a spreadsheet of Every single asset in both systems and have used it to track the names of things in those systems into other systems through an extensive search of eddb's system, station, and bodies database for all names involved.
Both of those systems should know the whereabouts of Raxxla, or contain clues to finding it, whatever it may be. As a detective with no real clues to the whereabouts of the missing thing, these are all we have to start with. You may be surprised with what you find by doing this one simple thing and googling the names and words of the assets
to find out who and what the names and words are.

Another thing I've come to understand is who and what Art is in the codex. Art is a Ship Born Mechanic.
At first glance this may appear to say he was born on a ship and repairs them. But if you look at Art as a ship based game mechanic than he takes on a different function.

The DW is conducting tests. What is the one way that a faction tests us? Missions. That's all. That's the only venue through which we get contacted by anyone,
outside of Tip-Offs, which lets face it, are kind of dry. So using Art as a ship based game mechanic, where is the art? Possibly in the artistic depictions of characters?

Cora, she sounds like she likes to have fun. Either she's a rich social butterfly, a pirate or a rebel.
She seems to know of Pirate treasure, so she is likely to be in association with those factions. If she's a pirate or rebel, the suggestion below will make it easier to identify her.
And she clearly needs a ride in your ship to find it. Passenger missions maybe? Probably.

If you go to Tau Ceti or Van Maanen's star and take a look at their contacts you will notice that they have a tattoo on their forehead.
For Van Maanen's they have 4 hexagons with a leading line toward the center. There are 2 other forehead tattoos you will find in game as well.
One looks like a square bar code and the other, a single stripe that looks like a swipe of ash such as worn by the Gateway Jet Brotherhood, and some other factions.
Almost all pirate factions have one of the three, almost all of them. Some just have triangles or a set of hexagons tattooed on their neck.
I've been keeping an eye out specifically for passengers with one of the 3 tattoos. Sometimes I find them in non-pirate faction jobs.
They appear to always lead me to systems of importance in the history of the game and to systems which contain bodies named after mountains or rivers,
or something that can be tied to Tau Ceti or Van Maanen assets or even the DW affiliated stations Neumann and Paulson.
I'm not real sure if you're supposed to look for one tattoo type over the other at this point though.

I've been using these identifiers and have had some interesting results.

Once you ally yourself with Van Maanen your passenger missions contact for the Sublime order of Van Maanen goes from being Divine Galen Elliot that you meet in Tau Ceti to Kaylie Winters and her position is Pilgrimage Mentor,
you'd be the student is she's the mentor, and you appear to be on a pilgrimage to something.
They're the Guardians of the Free Spirit and they believe hardship is the way to live a full life.

Reasoning sounds legit, in the cold, dark, clueless void...

Chase down any and all avenues until further information comes to hand might be our only hope, Obi Wan. If you have fun in the process, BONUS! It's down to pattern recognition at this point by the looks, brute forcing the game until events begin to predictably repeat. Good luck, and may the grind be with you, CMDR! o7

This particular crime scene is something of an anomaly. We already know exactly who hid the treasure. We also know roughly when they came up with what this prize might be and roughly when they shoved it in the digital pinata we're now blindly smashing to pieces looking for it but the answers, are in David's head!

Brute forcing our way in probably isn't a sensible plan, or walking a mile in his fluffy bunny carpet slippers but we can use our imagination to speculate on his favourite books and movies based on any evidence we can find. With the Internet the sheer volume of conflicting theory is huge, but in the 80's there was no google! :eek:

The where and how are now, the what and why could be over forty years old already.
 
Brute forcing our way in probably isn't a sensible plan, or walking a mile in his fluffy bunny carpet slippers but we can use our imagination to speculate on his favourite books and movies based on any evidence we can find.

Agreed. Desperate times call for drastic measures.

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