There's no rivalry. One game will come out in four months, another - in 2 years.
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I'm all about Elite, something about knowing it's homegrown and made less than a stone's throw from where I'm sat.
I really feel like taking a basket of muffins up there someday.
I really feel like taking a basket of muffins up there someday.
They can and will compete, and anyone thinking otherwise has either lots of free time or not much common sense. 
They compete for your time. If you play one game because it is just so good, will you be playing much else? Nope. Sure, you can buy both. Do you have the time to play both as much as you want? If not... there, competition.
I sure know I cancelled my subscription for Eve because I'm playing ED now. Just like I cancelled my sub to ESO because I was playing Eve... and SWTOR because I switched to ESO... only so many hours in a day, especially if you have work to do.
They compete for your time. If you play one game because it is just so good, will you be playing much else? Nope. Sure, you can buy both. Do you have the time to play both as much as you want? If not... there, competition.
I sure know I cancelled my subscription for Eve because I'm playing ED now. Just like I cancelled my sub to ESO because I was playing Eve... and SWTOR because I switched to ESO... only so many hours in a day, especially if you have work to do.
There is also a third competitor in the near future, when the Oculus Rift CV1 comes out with Eve:Valkyrie. But the gameplay is fundamentally different than ED, as Eve:Valkyrie is more like a Team Shooter in Space.
I am looking forward to play all of them (ED, Star Citizen and Eve:Valkyrie) on the Oculus Rift CV1 soon. Are we there yet? :smilie:
I am looking forward to play all of them (ED, Star Citizen and Eve:Valkyrie) on the Oculus Rift CV1 soon. Are we there yet? :smilie:
This. Well... except for the fact that they put their AC release date one day before ED's premium beta - a date they couldn't hold, but still, that had a competitive smell to it.
As a whole of course there's this notion that once star citizen is out, no other space game needs to be played. And until that time, no space game needs to be played either, because SC will do everything any other game could possibly offer, but better and bigger.
I say, if there's problems in SC, fans should acknowledge them and get CIG to fix them. If there's problems in ED, fans should acknowledge those and get FD to fix them. Blind adoration and blind hatred are two sides of the same coin of stupid.
While I'll always play in 'all', I don't mind the groups. Ultimately you need to encourage people to participate, not force them.
The injected events, the background simulation, the attempt to create a living world are all there in part to incentivise players to be in the same place at the same time, interacting with each other and with the world, and I'd like to believe that actually the majority of players will want to spend a lot of their time interacting with the broader playerbase, as that's so often how the best stories and experiences come about.
Given how distributed the gameworld is, the presence of the police force, and even the potential to work together to defend against piracy, it doesn't feel as though it's ever going to be a griefer's paradise exactly. Even so, for some players, the solo group is a last line of defence for their game experience.
The injected events, the background simulation, the attempt to create a living world are all there in part to incentivise players to be in the same place at the same time, interacting with each other and with the world, and I'd like to believe that actually the majority of players will want to spend a lot of their time interacting with the broader playerbase, as that's so often how the best stories and experiences come about.
Given how distributed the gameworld is, the presence of the police force, and even the potential to work together to defend against piracy, it doesn't feel as though it's ever going to be a griefer's paradise exactly. Even so, for some players, the solo group is a last line of defence for their game experience.
I think if CR stopped making direct references to ED, anytime he feels there is something better about SC than ED in interviews unprompted we could take the "we don't have a rivalry" statement a bit more seriously.
Anyone saying there's no competition is...let's say is better person than I am. All i have seen since KS is constant baggage from SC core fan base, a little bit arrogant attitude towards all space sims from CR and CIG, and it hasn't really changed. Maybe it's how things are done in US. But it leaves bitter taste in my mouth when to chat about SC.
Competition exists. David is currently on his way to beat Chris on delivery on the game. It means very little for him financially, but it will create pressure from majority of SC backers to give them certain features currently not planned in SC.
Competition exists. David is currently on his way to beat Chris on delivery on the game. It means very little for him financially, but it will create pressure from majority of SC backers to give them certain features currently not planned in SC.
At some stage however, you have to be the bigger man - if such a perception is yours. Sometimes ignoring, accentuating the positive and/or rationally discussing the negatives does a far better job than emotive and spiteful retort. Two wrongs and all that good stuff...
Being a backer of both I can do nothing but agree
I always just figure if you're a backer of elite first and foremost, you're playing or planning to play the game, and not worrying much about how SC is shaping up, given the timeframe for its release.
SC isn't competition until it's playable, excepting those who are petty enough to avoid playing ED simply to spite it.
SC isn't competition until it's playable, excepting those who are petty enough to avoid playing ED simply to spite it.
Putting aside the fact there are several other space games under development, I don't think the mark of a 'serious space sim fan' is that you buy both. Anymore than it is necessary for a backer to agree with or like every decision made by the company behind the project.
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You really DO camp this thread don't you?
I dunno, I find Bains' comments to be insightful, if sometimes peppered with a bit of sarcastic humour.
And SC is not a failure, just not yet a success.
I follow certain threads more than others... I see nothing wrong with this...
Found this on the SC subreddit, not sure whether it's a bug or a feature(exploding power plant ...):
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