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Modding tools is one of the features that I'm excited about SC.
It's probably aeons away though.

Racing tracks are a [redacted] minigame, independent of game.
 
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Modding tools is one of the features that I'm excited about SC.
It's probably aeons away though.

Racing tracks are a [redacted] minigame, independent of game.

I disagree, much like any content in any game it just depends on the effort that was put into it.
 
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I don't really mean mod tools, more in game items created by Dev's that players can use in multiple ways to create their own content.

For example, sure SC is making race tracks, but how many and how fast will they become boring? Doing it that was makes racing constrained to what CIG create. But what if CIG make race tracks but also created (using NeilF's idea) beacons that players can place, giving players the ability to make their own race tracks. Not only do you get the official tracks, and the good looks with it, but you have players going out making content on their own. Doing this helps with the constant content race (pun intended) that Dev's are in.

It won't get boring it will have a race championship in the PU which I see players racing in.

http://starcitizen.wikia.com/wiki/Murray_Cup_Racing_League

Racing is a part of the SC lore. Everybody thinks that AC is it but everything is being made with the PU in mind. So they will reuse lot's of stuff in the PU but not all.

Racing is going to be pretty awesome when championships kick in with Prizes. Which then can be tied to Planetside livestreams. They could go anywhere and told that the Murray Cup will be a thing.
 
It won't get boring it will have a race championship in the PU which I see players racing in.

http://starcitizen.wikia.com/wiki/Murray_Cup_Racing_League

Racing is a part of the SC lore. Everybody thinks that AC is it but everything is being made with the PU in mind. So they will reuse lot's of stuff in the PU but not all.

Racing is going to be pretty awesome when championships kick in with Prizes. Which then can be tied to Planetside livestreams. They could go anywhere and told that the Murray Cup will be a thing.

I was going to respond to you with a wall of text (with real information), but after reading it I realized that its just not worth it, and ended up being nothing more than a rant at you . The constant PR that you spit out in every post is just not worth spending time or effort on.

I will say this, talk is cheep, lure =\= gameplay, and making definitive statements about features that you have very little information on, and is years away from being implemented, is not conductive to anything. Oh and SC will not be the game to rule them all. Could it be a good game? Sure, but not the game to end all games.
 
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I was going to respond to you with a wall of text (with real information), but after reading it I realized that its just not worth it, and ended up being nothing more than a rant at you . The constant PR that you spit out in every post is just not worth spending time or effort on.

I will say this, talk is cheep, lure =\= gameplay, and making definitive statements about features that you have very little information on, and is years away from being implemented, is not conductive to anything. Oh and SC will not be the game to rule them all. Could it be a good game? Sure, but not the game to end all games.

I guess I am not the only one who get's the vibe from Mr.Nowak as CIG PR guy ;-).
 
I was going to respond to you with a wall of text (with real information), but after reading it I realized that its just not worth it, and ended up being nothing more than a rant at you . The constant PR that you spit out in every post is just not worth spending time or effort on.

I will say this, talk is cheep, lure =\= gameplay, and making definitive statements about features that you have very little information on, and is years away from being implemented, is not conductive to anything. Oh and SC will not be the game to rule them all. Could it be a good game? Sure, but not the game to end all games.

Here is some info if you think what I write is just PR . But I am not talking out of thin air. This is from May 18th. Also most people supporting the SC project are in long term. Most people know this project will take years and things said like the Arena Mode 2 years back sounded like a a distant future thing and now the time is here and we are playing it. Things like E-Sports and E-Racing are very key in keeping things alive and active. It also adds excitement and an extra competition to the game. So I am sure that E Sports and E Racing in Star Citizen will be a logical path to head in to especially for Arena Commander.

10ftC 22 Question 8

We have heard rumors of Star Citizen as an e-sport, also that AC can be used for it. Do you have any plans on supporting e-sports in the sense of promoting it on the website? And hopefully more ideas?

Answer 8 – Chris Roberts:

Actually our thought is there's a lot of potential inside Star Citizen, so Arena Commander would definitely be something that would be a place where people could essentially compete and show off their dogfighting skills without having to risk their actual ship in the way that you would out in the Persistent Universe. And then we've got some other things that we're thinking about, we're had a lot about Murray Cup racing, and we've been focusing. We've got some races and we want to do a race course.

We'll probably release something with Arena Commander, not v1.0, but just after that we'll have some timed racing courses and stuff that you can fly your ships in, which I think will be pretty cool. And yeah, both those things could be very suited to that e-sports set up. I think what we would probably do 'cause we always like to do everything in-fiction is to sort of have the e-sports part of it almost feel in-fiction.

So if you're competing to be the best dogfighter or you're competing to be the fastest racer, you're really competing in the Murray Cup in our universe. You're competing in some big, fictional, invitational tournament or whatever for the dogfighting. We'll sort of do e-sports in our universe. Kind of like Inception one level inside something else.

But yes, we think that would be fun, we're also going to do a certain amount of support for people to watch stuff, so not right away, but we're looking at ways that we can have sort of windows onto action, so you can maybe log in to the website and see some cool battle happening out in space, and definitely if we have a competition or e-sports scene we would figure out ways to broadcast the combat or ways to broadcast the racing, and maybe once the Persistent Universe is up and running, you could even be in a bar in the persistent universe looking at a TV and see basically our Twitch broadcast of that which you could also see direct on our website.

Hopefully that sounds cool, that's kind of what we're thinking about.
 
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Here is some info if you think what I write is just PR . But I am not talking out of thin air. This is from May 18th.

And so you quote PR? Its a ton of "could", "if", "maybe", "not right away"

So let me repeat, your are acting like all of these things are definitive, and then show proof that they are not. You spit out just bad PR, because CIG at least leave them selves wiggle room if they don't do it.

edit: I never said it was PR , I just said it was PR, not all PR is .
 
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And so you quote PR?

So what is your source for SC? Who created this project? Who is running it? Am I missing something here? The project goes where the Project Lead takes it to. Without CR nothing goes. If CR says no to E Sports there is no E Sports. If you know a higher ranked dude leading this project let me know.
 
So what is your source for SC? Who created this project? Who is running it? Am I missing something here? The project goes where the Project Lead takes it to. Without CR nothing goes. If CR says no to E Sports there is no E Sports. If you know a higher ranked dude leading this project let me know.

Sorry I edited my post as I didn't mean to hit submit. My evidence is what you posted. You did the work for me.


And so you quote PR? Its a ton of "could", "if", "maybe", "not right away"

So let me repeat, your are acting like all of these things are definitive, and then show proof that they are not. You spit out just bad PR, because CIG at least leave them selves wiggle room if they don't do it..

Edit: And if CR says yes to e-sports, this does not mean AC/SC will turn into an e-sport.

2nd edit, because you can't just have one: I never said it was PR , I just said it was PR, not all PR is .
 
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My take is Mr Nowak put at least 2000$ in SC. :D

I can't say I share his enthusiam right now though, but SC may end up being a great game in the end.
 
Sorry I edited my post as I didn't mean to hit submit. My evidence is what you posted. You did the work for me.

Edit: And if CR says yes to e-sports, this does not mean AC/SC will turn into an e-sport.

2nd edit, because you can't just have one: I never said it was PR , I just said it was PR, not all PR is .

Yes but it opens the chances of it being done. At the end of the day he is kind of like the captain of the ship isn't he? And a captain that also in the past promised so many things but only got so far done. But that doesn't change the fact that AC can easily be a e sporty competition game with settings. The system itself is very suited. If it was something not even close I wouldn't mention it at all but AC seems very compatible with E Sports to me and no wonder why CR thinks of the idea.

In some previous ATV episodes the same topic was mentioned several times. So it seems that CIG is pretty in to that idea as they are mentioning it in several ways here and there.

Also stuff like this started popping up as well.

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My take is Mr Nowak put at least 2000$ in SC. :D

I can't say I share his enthusiam right now though, but SC may end up being a great game in the end.

No Idea why you think like that because I got friends who are way more excited than me and they just have an Aurora? What does it have to do with money? The money given to CIG is gone. And I put money down in this project knowing I might never see the project and the money again. Don't feel bad at all because I wanted a game like this for a long time and gaming is my hobby.
 
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But that doesn't change the fact that AC can easily be a e sporty competition game with settings. The system itself is very suited. If it was something not even close I wouldn't mention it at all but AC seems very compatible with E Sports to me and no wonder why CR thinks of the idea.

I have been part of and spectated e-sports for quite some time and I have an opinion on the matter.
Personally I think AC and space ship racing has no chance in hell of being an e-sport.

There's A TON of other games that were more qualified for e-sports (in term of skill, excitement to watch, popularity of the genre, etc) and never made it into e-sport status.


That doesn't stop them from having tournaments, streaming them on twitch and having a percentage of the people playing it, tuning in to watch. A LOT of games do this. But it's not the same as being a popular e-sport.
 
I have been part of and spectated e-sports for quite some time and I have an opinion on the matter.
Personally I think AC and space ship racing has no chance in hell of being an e-sport.

There's A TON of other games that were more qualified for e-sports (in term of skill, excitement to watch, popularity of the genre, etc) and never made it into e-sport status.


That doesn't stop them from having tournaments, streaming them on twitch and having a percentage of the people playing it, tuning in to watch. A LOT of games do this. But it's not the same as being a popular e-sport.

Thanks for your input. But even within the SC community which has 510.000 registered members do you think it would work?
 
Thanks for your input. But even within the SC community which has 510.000 registered members do you think it would work?

It depends on how many of these people will be interested to watch or take part in e-sports.
Space Sims aren't particularly popular so I wouldn't really expect people from outside the genre to watch competitive matches like it happens with some other games.

GuildWars2 tried to take the e-sports path and failed and they had 3-4(?) million box sales. Even the few (well at least one) tournaments they ran they had a very small viewer number comparably to how many people bought the game.

That's just one example.. there's plenty of other games that are perfect for e-sports but have failed.. in fact the vast majority of games attempting to be an e-sport have failed. Only a select few have succeeded.

Again that doesn't stop games from running their own tournaments... but getting enough attention/viewers to become an e-sport is a totally different story.

I believe SC will stream tournaments, hey they love to make video shows and they seem popular among the fanbase.

It's just my opinion though, I might be wrong. I wouldn't mind a space sim e-sport game popping up on Twitch :)
 
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