The Star Citizen Thread v5

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It seems you aren't aware of how accountability works, when it's a public company (Disney) and a private company (CIG).

So your defense to SC being three years overdue and still a pre-alpha tech demo in their sixth year of development is "they are not accountable" after the rubes spent $140 million on pre-orders. Do you think saying that helps ?, or do you think it makes CIG and it's supporters sound even more sleazy.
 
It seems you aren't aware of how accountability works, when it's a public company (Disney) and a private company (CIG).

CIG are a publicly funded company selling things they have not yet made, they are accountable. But hey, good confirmation that you do not care what happens with your money, I on the other hand do care what happens to mine.

Disney may be legally accountable for their finances, but somehow I doubt it's ever been a concern to the public. Also, just so you understand, the public own 2% of Disney whereas CIG would not even exist without the public.

Why do you guys always go for the passive aggresive insults? Overcompensating maybe?
 
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I don't have the ultimate truth, I just have my opinion and in my opinion he was referring to "systems", no exactly 1000s of players in the same m2.

But anyone can believe whatever he wants obviously.

I was just obsessed with Vader quotes this am. Thanks for your explanation..:honestly it always helps to have as wide of opinion library as possible.

appreciate it.
 
As for that Thargoids clip, I'm so glad Elite is going to have really alien aliens, not classic rubber forehead humans with a strange accent (yeah, that's a dig at space Chinese and space barbarians and space whatever Banu are).
 
I completely agree with this, especially as it related to SQ42. I know there are many assets that are shared in SQ42 and SC, but honestly I'd prefer to SQ42 to be completely shelved for the next 2 years.

Lots of $$$ we're mo capped on x thousand page 14 hours worth of script. Shelving it and the cost down the toilet at imaginarium/actors wages would be grossly incompetent.

I prefer sq 42 before SC given that's what I pledged for in 2012.

But that's just me.
 
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Wasted time is a part of life in any production house. It's not a goal, but it's a reality.

Lucasfilms wasted over $60,000 in the early days of shooting EP1, as they were trying to create JarJar with prosthetics instead of CGI. I even recall a clip of Lucas berating John Knoll in a meeting about the wasted time and money. Knoll's reply was that at least they now had good lighting and shadow references for moving forward.

And in the end, JarJar sucked as a character anyway. But the movie was a financial success.

Studio funded vs backer funded...sorry not a great comparison at all....like at all.

Earnings reports on public companies can shift investor confidence...the 60k of loss on the books probably never even made a dent on their overall revenues so ... investors of public company happy and buy or hold shares.

No idea why you would make that comparison as they serve no relation to one another.

There are both ethical and financially liable reasons many companies don't over promise (before they know what they can deliver)...because if they under deliver they are liable,especially if money was exchanged based on those public statements.
 
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Sunleader yesterday said that Elite : Dangerous amounted to no more than " a giant box of nothing that looked kind of pretty" to paraphrase.

Then THIS happened earlier today in Elite....


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Sorry, what was that you were saying Sunleader?

Are you still there Sunleader?
 
It seems you aren't aware of how accountability works, when it's a public company (Disney) and a private company (CIG).

It seems as though you don't understand what accountability actually MEANS... certainly, CIG, being 100% funded and created by public money, should be held accountable for everything that has gone on these last 6 years or so, for the precise production of.... now very much at all.... Which is rather shocking for a "game" that is now being funded to the tune of $140 million dollars, parking it firmly into the top 5 most expensive videogames EVER made...

Hell, SC is now entering the realms of budgetary spend usually reserved for a Hollywood blockbuster... and yet, unlike your poor attempt to equate the delay that befell Lucasfilm in Star Wars Episode 1, CIG have failed to meet every single deadline that they set themselves to complete some aspect of SC. Meanwhile, Lucas and Co managed to pump out Episode 1 on budget and, more importantly, ON TIME.

And during the production of said movie, I never saw Lucasfilms coming out and making promises and bold boasts about what they THINK the film will be like and just how awesome it would be, then repeatedly stall for time as the release date of the film slips and slips.

Actually, here's an idea... Let me provide you with a list of films that would make for a more accurate comparison with Star Citizen than your ham fisted attempt to shoe horn Chris Roberts together with George Lucas.... Ishtar,The Adventures Of Baron Munchhausen, The Adventures Of Pluto Nash, The Adventures Of Rocky & Bulwinkle, Cutthroat Island (a rarity in this list, the film was actually good, but came out before the Depp-inspired revival of swashbuckling pirate movies. It also completely sunk the studio that produced it.), Catwoman, Heaven's Gate..... I could go on but I'll leave it at that.

What do all those movies have in common with SC? Lots of money (studio provided, not from the public) was poured into them. Many of the films had numerous problems during production. Many had behind-the-scenes issues plaguing them. Many of them were also delayed well past their initial release date... And ALL of them ended up being massive box office FAILURES.

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Cool, a new NPC.

/slowclap


<Points at the blank space where Star Citizen is supposed to be>

Hmm, not sure I can do anything here since there is virtually nothing to golf clap to. *Shrugs*
 
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Sunleader has asked for something "kind of pretty" from ED, Cat has shown something "kind of pretty" from ED, what's your problem?

His "problem"? The glaring fact that there is something "kind of pretty" actually IN ED right now, (which has honestly been the case for many, many months in the game), whilst the only thing currently "kind of pretty" in SC are some of the art assets. That's it. No aliens, no deep and meaningful gameplay (and no, not that "emergent gameplay that he had to weave into his tale yesterday because the PTU is still, after 18 months of "release", completely bare bones in terms of actual gameplay content and mechanics).
 
To be honest I don't disagree with many criticisms leveled at ED, but there's nothing in CIG output to date that makes me believe SC is going to be any better.
 
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