Baghdad Bob, Baghdad Sean, it's all about superlatives and alternative facts these days.
The Star Citizen Thread v5
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Baghdad Bob, Baghdad Sean, it's all about superlatives and alternative facts these days.
Here we go again. Dreams Round 2.0
Where do you see Star Citizen next month? 6 months? 1 year? [Redux]
The most open game development in the history of game development, and nobody has a clue what's going on. [wacko]
I also liked Comical Ali.
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I won't bother replying to Orlando's blather... I'll leave that "pleasure" to SA user The_Titanic who wrote this perfectly acerbic post a little earlier on...
Hmm, yep, I think that sums it up nicely.
Hmm, yep, I think that sums it up nicely.
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Insignificant_The_Galaxy_Cat
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Well then.... what to make of this from TheAgent over on SA.
That is deeply unfair to 1990s hacker groups, or even to 1980s ones (to say nothing of what they actually did in the 90s and 80s).
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Oh yes, I know that the term "hacking" has now become associated with criminality and such, rather than for the *original* meaning which was usually a bunch of college and/or university students taking some computer lab computers and "hacking" together new computer languages that end up as the standard on almost every computer a few years later, or similar, largely positive purposes.
Only two letters separate “hacker” from “hack”, but they make a world of difference.
If that list is genuine and turns truth it will indeed be a MASSIVE step in the right direction. It would show that they are at least trying. It wont support or proof any of the dreams or claims made so far but it ll show CiG is still at work and might buy them a few more months.
As for the personal statement. I doubt most people believe the code monkeys and designers have an easy job. Personally I believe the guys working on SC try their best to make it work but they really dont have a chance. If management is as incompetent and unrealistic as this one the best people in the world would have a hard time to make anything work.
We've only seen some of its parts, and they've hardly been polished!
I'm not anti SC on principle, but Arena Commander 0.8 was one of the very worst gaming experiences that I have ever had in over 30 years; I have played perhaps 1000 games that I enjoyed more, definitely many hundreds. I am left handed, and don't feel comfortable with a mouse and keyboard set-up, or HOTAS; hence i favour a controller. Early AC was excruciatingly bad on controller. This is why I don't think that the scope or ambition of SC are praiseworthy, because there has to be some confidence that this ambition will be met; my confidence took a huge hit after 0.8, and it's never really recovered since.
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Insignificant_The_Galaxy_Cat
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If that list is genuine, then I'm afraid it's showing CIG getting ever further away from the game that was promised to backers 5 years ago.
And anyway, where is the guarantee that all of these (cutback) features, or even 3.0 in itself, will even *make* it to PCs by the end of this year, judging by CIG's prior record of promises versus "playable" content?
From the sounds of the personal statement (which again, we don't have any proof that it's real or not) those coders and programmers at those studios are in virtual 24/7 'crunch mode', if the comment about 60 hour weeks is anything to go by.... And this with the knowledge that, anecdotally at least, this had been the case since the last year or so already! And they barely managed to squeeze out a module that was initially in the game, not in the game, cancelled, not cancelled, already in the game stop asking!, then finally revealed in a hugely buggy, unsatisfying and disappointing state... with no sign of Squadron 42 on the horizon either.
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Well, Arena Commander hasn't gotten much better since then either. Even the much trumpeted (by CIG, not by anybody else) flight model alterations that they finally decided to roll out recently have been underwhelming to say the least, with a lot of the folks who tried it saying they saw hardly any difference at all.
That anecdote would explain a lot about the current state of things. Crunch is bad for you.
Specifically…
…that last bit sounds horribly applicable here.Gamasutra said:
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So basically a bare bones planet tech demo relegated to a Star Marine-style separate module which is delivered months (or more) after the full monty was supposed appear in the PU? Sounds totally plausible, and that says a lot. And judging by past fiascos (Star Marine), I expect the alleged failure of [contracted company] to deliver on the AI was actually down to Roberts' usual failure to effectively manage the many and complex moving parts of the project.
And while I get that being on the receiving end of negativity about the project is not fun for the boots-on-the-ground soldiers, and we all know they're dutifully plugging away and (in some cases) doing impressive work, I'm not going to cry them a river while they continue to cash their backer-funded pay cheques. I'm sure it seemed like a prime gig when they signed up, and most of them will end up with decent showreel material if nothing else. No one will blame them if the whole thing crashes and burns, they'll (correctly) blame Roberts. And I'm sure a lot of people would be amused by the idea of sixty hour weeks being an unthinkable proposition, game developers included.
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If you don't believe any of it; believe one thing: the part about the planet being #justanothermodule because I have written extensively about this in the past, even sparred with one of their devs Ben Parry over this very notion of it being a level, rather than a seamless transition like what they have shown in their tech demos.
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That would be Behavior Interactive. I wrote about this specifically a few days ago.
I'm still waiting to see how the economy works, and how they are going to handle the inevitable inflation problems that almost all MMO's face.
Seeing as this is probably one of the most complex things in any game, you'd have thought we would have seen some evidence that they are actually looking at this, but after 5+ years we don't even have basic trading.
Basic gameplay is something that they seem to be ignoring, while concentrating on the fancy eye candy (and the graphics ARE nice, when they work).
I don't hold out much hope
Seeing as this is probably one of the most complex things in any game, you'd have thought we would have seen some evidence that they are actually looking at this, but after 5+ years we don't even have basic trading.
Basic gameplay is something that they seem to be ignoring, while concentrating on the fancy eye candy (and the graphics ARE nice, when they work).
I don't hold out much hope
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