I don't know what game you're describing, but it certainly isn't SC. The ships and stations are far from dull grey corridors, they're very richly detailed, and our org has no problem PvP with multiple players every night... SPK is a designated PvP area, and we routinely have all out fights everyn night. Just last week we ran a multi crew ship vs. fighter brawl... I had 8 of my org mates on my retaliator Manning turrets , while another of my org mates had a Connie with four org mates, vs. six other ships.
It's a very promising alpha game and, as a long time Ed player, I'm findings lot to it that is more fun than the Ed grid. Stop reading the forums and try it. My experience has been. A lot of shallow people tend tolurk the forums.
You dont have a video of that "fun" available by chance? You know I see people claiming that SC is "more fun then other games" a lot but so far I havent seen any of the "fun" mentioned in the video material available. Is "fun" a trademark secret that isnt allowed to be shared with the public so nobody is showing it? Uninterrupted video from logging in to the first crash would ne niffty not the heavily edited fan-made promo vids that dont reflect gameplay or quality. As of right now you make a lot of high value claims without anything to back it up except for your words. Your arguments dont hold the kind of logic necessary to stay valid without any proof so I d rather label your descriptions "fasntasy" or "dream" until I see what you mean. You see, we ve been able to watch enough SC gameplay videos made by various sources and what has become painfully appearant in the past is that under neutral or unfavorable conditions (regarding the streamer) SC turns out to be a mess and chaotic piece of BLEEP. When shown by pro-SC streamers we suddenly watch heavily edited footage or are witness to "make-up" fanatsies which an unbeliever cannot share. If you are in so deep that SC turns from the turd it is into something shiny then thats your right, just keep it to yourself then, nobody likes hugs from a turd-lower ^^
Its a fun game. Period. It has a lot to offer that ed doesnt.
Source? Are we to take your word for it? (also one of your first snipes of many at ED...stay on topic?)
Why does this bother you so much? Isnt the point if this sub forum to "discuss your favorite games" ?
No bother really, we have the occasional hick-up in our discussion for years now. So lets discuss the game then. Do you have anything else by chance? Because so far you ve only rehashed stuff that we ve been discussing ad nauseum already. Any insight from you (favoribly with links or sources) would be welcome. If people meet your claim with scepticism its because of the quality of your posts which is on par with that of a fanboy and having no verifiable sources sorry to say. But that can be fixed. You know I m sure one of your org mates has been streaming or capturing one of your sessions. Maybe HE can share it as proof? I d love to see anything that would make SC give credit apart from eye candy and dreams. Maybe you could help a brother out?
seriously, this is so absurdely easy to confirm, the videos are literally all over you tube. Denying it is.. well, its just silly.
We know theres a ton of videos. So far we missed the ones which show the "fun" tho obviously. Might be because they get missed so easily in the FLOOD of crappy videos showing bugs, glaring problems and clueless design? Maybe you could direct us to a video that you think is showing the fun? Then we would all be able to speak from the same standpoint.
Maybe watching some of your "fun" would give us an indicator as to how easily you are pleased. So far you come along like a SC defender who spotted this thread and (wíthout reading anything except the last 2 pages) bring up the same old same old arguments and points so many SC defenders before you have....mainly the "the game is so awesome and fun, better then ED" without any actual proof.
I own Elite but I dont own Star Citizen (thank god I avoided that train wreck). So I have first hand experience with Elite and second hand experience with SC. Graphic-wise SC looks superior on
pictures but watch a moving scene and the constant blurring effect gives me a headache. Moving scenes lose a lot of their appeal besides if "graphics" are your only argument....thats one of the first things people get used to so games are reduced to quality and in that regard SC is severly lacking. In mechanics and content.
You know, i came in here thinkibg this was a forum to discuss other games, not to bash them
You are kinda right. This thread specifically is reserved for SC topics and as far as SC goes there currently isnt much about it to praise and lots to bash so if you think this is a "bashing or hater thread" its simply because we work with what SC gives us
Tbey shiuld rename it the "why you hate sc" thread
Or "why is SC so bad" thread, equally valid. Maybe you miss the distance but if you want to bring any
positive points to the discussion you can at any time. Its very telling that all you were able to say so far is "its fun for
ME" while needing to make a direct comparison to ED and then getting all defensive. You got anything else?
Tell you what, get an account , ill gift you a starter pack, and join us for an org night.
So the problem would be to spend money THEN the enlightment would come. And in case its not then its my own fault but at that point you got from me what you wanted......not sounding like a cult AT ALL. That statement is simply
"in order to see the fun you need to drink the kool-aid"
Can you discuss the game that is Star Citizen, rather than trying to derail the thread with the tele-evangilist impersonation?
+1
This.....
Your current line of arguments and posts doesnt really give the appearance that you just want to discuss the game. You are trying too hard
Maybe Chris Roberts can pull it off, maybe he won't
Somehow I think thats not the words you would use when 140+ MILLION american dollars are involved. We are not talking about a Hellion-type game which might or might not make it but that that game already has more to offer (same mechanics) with a tiny budget, small team and 1 year of development. THAT game can use that kind of words because if it fails they sure as hell gave it a good shot for the amount of money involved. For 140 MILLION dollars Star Citizen better be fantastic and so far....its not.
Feel free to provide any arguments that would support SC. You dont need to bash ED or get all defensive simply because we dont agree with you. Just try a different angle instead of making it personal. And maybe YOU will learn something in the process.
Pro-tip: labeling this thread "sc-hate thread" and all sceptics "haters" is the wrong approach if you want to be taken seriously
If I listened to half the crap people spew about ED, I'd never play this game either. I just don't let the haters impact my enjoyment of either game
- REFACTORED BECAUSE THIS THREAD IS ABOUT SC NOT ED -
I called you out on it, and offered to let you try the game for yourself, at no risk.
Wouldnt getting the game involve me shelling out 45 or 60 bucks tho? Or am I missing something?
I think you'd like it, but, whatever, don't take me up on it. If SC dies tomorrow, I'll find somethign else to play.
Nice little backdoor you kept open there but that statement doesnt match your level of fervor displayed so far. If its such a non-matter you simply try too hard and get too involved in the process. maybe you ve missed it but so far you have brought ONE argument to the table, the rest of your posts is defending and attacking people and other games. Try to stay on topic? Just reply to questions and secpticism with content? If SC has so much to offer simply PROVIDE any proof of that content. I promise we ll read/ watch it. Just use spoiler tags and please avoid posting links others before you did already.
But, whatever. Hide behind the hate. Don't take me up on my offer. You don't know what you're missing. I'll see you around the verse. OR maybe on the horizen (if you see a decked out 'conda, you'll know it's me.)
/waves good-bye
Oh...I m sorry you didnt mean that did you? It was just one of those statements loaded with as much superiority and nonchalance you could think of?
That said, the fact that the current alpha version is so engaging I think speaks to its promise...
Source for that "engaging gameplay"? So far I can only think of <<< USE >>>
Look, I may be missing some of the drama here. I purposefully don't read the blogs
Obviously....else you would realize that you are just regurgitating old stuff and coming along like one of those whiteknights we had in the past. If you are indeed just a "gamer" who doesnt care about the company or how it handles its resources and the progress it demonstrates why are you in this thread exactly? You made your opening post and then, according to your self-description that should ve been all. Our replies shouldnt bother you so much. Instead you call us haters and condemn the whole thread with increasing agression. Just let it go. Play Star Citizen and have fun, you neither contribute to this discussion nor do you defend the game. At the moment you are just getting into an argument without having anything to back up your side of the story.
When I get asked for proof or sources I d better go provide some if I want to be taken serious around here. Thats how the real world works as well. Either your words provide a quality of their own or you need to provide backup in form of more information to make your statements valid. Now this is a different crowd then you are used to on the echo chamber which is the RSI forum. People here are a lil harder to please and are not swayed as easily by demo-videos, concept art and fluffy words. A solid game design with as much quality as you claim shouldnt have problems to handle this crowd but so far you dont provide anything that demonstrates the quality Star Citizen possesses according to you. Simply replying to you that we dont believe you or have different opinions is not
hate. I cant believe I have to explain that to you.
The SC thread on the frontier forum is not a place where we fall on our knees and praise the paradise (SC) holding hands, passing kool-aid and singing kumba-ja. You cannot bring the RiS-approved behaviour here and expect to dominate the place. But coming here was YOUR decision, we certainly dont treat you any different then we treat ourselves. The quality of our posts DOES difer greatly tho. You are probably not used to be asked for proof...I get that. Also you come from a place where saying "I think its fun" obviously passes as proof of quality. Well you are not with the toddlers anymore mate. And if you want to participate in this thread and not just try to troll us you better step up your game
Personally I d like to discuss the game with someone I can take seriously. Even with opposing views. Do you want to be that person? I judge SC very negatively at the moment but that shouldnt prevent the two of us from having a discussion?
Makes you think doesnt it? The problem (in your case) is that most of the negativity in here is documented, well formulated and actually matches reality. And it becomes recognized by more and more people. Not because this thread exists but because SC provides the base on which it is judged itself. "Silencing" this thread wouldnt help your "cause" because this thread is not needed to pass judgement on Star Citizen. That will be the job of the public of which you are a part. There is no need to get threatened by this thread.
I was a neutral bystander and even positivily influenced once. I was following the project lightly (no money invested, reading forums for the most part). After a while the first sceptics appeared and the way in which these questions were handled by the general SC community and CiG itself is the main reason why I put my full focus on this project. Mainly because I was DISGUSTED with the amount of hate, bigotry and fanatism displayed by the majority of the SC community. And once that focus came into play I was able to see more and more valid problems which, when brought up, were again met with belittlement and personal abuse. That lack of content and quality shown in posts by the average SC whiteknight is mirrored in the content and quality of Star Citizen as a game. Both these parties match each other perfectly in this regard. Maybe you got lost with my amount of words so I ll spell it out again.....
If you only use distraction tactics and become agressive when facing counter arguments and opposing views you alienate anybody who tries to make up his mind. You are damaging the success of your chosen game with your behaviour.
IIRC, late 2015-early 2016 there was no ptu, just arena commander6
lol wut?
edit: pro-active edit to avoid Mod-involvement. I hope its enough
