COMPLETED CG Upgraded Xeno Scanner Requires Resources (Trade)

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Read the CG description for yourself. It clearly says the commodities are for the rescue ships, not the new modules. The same rescue ships that are planning to move in the next few weeks for no apparent reason... right after it's been revealed that the thargoids are mass-harvesting humans.
 
Read the CG description for yourself. It clearly says the commodities are for the rescue ships, not the new modules. The same rescue ships that are planning to move in the next few weeks for no apparent reason... right after it's been revealed that the thargoids are mass-harvesting humans.
Yeah, one has to wonder how they are harvesting the humans... And why the rescue ships are suddenly moving closer to them...

Maybe we are inadvertently helping the thargoids by participating in this CG? The plot thickens.
 
Typically the CG is hosted by the controlling faction, thus the question. Especially since it's an Aegis faction and this is an Aegis CG. Either way, as long as the contributions aren't being applied to the "flavors" influence, I'm assuming it is not really an issue.
Aegis Imperium was added at latest on March 4, 2019. PMF additions weren't being reported around this time as far as I know, but I'd expect it's a PMF and not an official Aegis faction. The other faction was likely used for the CG to avoid confusion (somewhat).
 
I imagine one source of confusion is that the event description contradicts the event title; the description states required to support the crews onboard rescue megaships, versus the title of Upgraded Xeno Scanner Requires Resources.
It seems FD may also be confused?!
https://www.elitedangerous.com/news/galnet/sirius-corporation-discusses-thargoid-abductions
So which one is it? Are we collecting materials for scanner upgrades or for assisting in the humanitarian efforts to accommodate those who are (hopefully) rescued?
 
Since helping people is such a foreign concept to the [Elite] world, it seems far from certain that this one will succeed.

I guess it’s of more limited importance if it’s not actually about making the scanner. Which I’m relatively convinced it’s not… Sirius’ proposal seems to relate more to the ‘How do you actually get the people out after locating them?’ question, not so much the ‘How do we find them?’ one.
 
Since helping people is such a foreign concept to the [Elite] world, it seems far from certain that this one will succeed.

I guess it’s of more limited importance if it’s not actually about making the scanner. Which I’m relatively convinced it’s not… Sirius’ proposal seems to relate more to the ‘How do you actually get the people out after locating them?’ question, not so much the ‘How do we find them?’ one.

Yeah - one thing to store them, one thing to find them, one thing to break them out, and in the darkness bind them.

Sorry, got mixed up there.
 
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It'd be interesting if the CG failed and then Sirius swooped in to bail it out, like they did with one of Mahons a while back. Lets the immediate story proceed as planned with potential negative consequences down the line where possible, ie more leverage in these negotiations.
 
What does Aegis have that Sirius would want so bad they'd invest those kind of resources in?
And why would they have been developing a counter for something that Aegis only realised just recently - for years?
It makes me wonder if the Thargoids took something, or more precisely someone, from Sirius near the start of the war and they want them back. But whom?
 
What does Aegis have that Sirius would want so bad they'd invest those kind of resources in?
And why would they have been developing a counter for something that Aegis only realised just recently - for years?
It makes me wonder if the Thargoids took something, or more precisely someone, from Sirius near the start of the war and they want them back. But whom?
Tinfoil hat says the Club wants more control over Aegis. Not that I’ve got much of a way to prove that, but I would not be surprised.

Or I’m just way too distrustful of any megacorp, especially in Elite. And I’m sure Sirius has two towers somewhere…
 
And why would they have been developing a counter for something that Aegis only realised just recently - for years?
Aegis has only just realised that there's been industrial-scale capturing of humans, but there have been hints of it going on at smaller scale for longer: the Far God suspended animation site at Etain is about five years old, for example, and the (opportunistic?) behaviour of Thargoid Interceptors to pods containing all sorts of living humanoids has been in place from the moment they showed up another year back from that.
 
Tinfoil hat says the Club wants more control over Aegis. Not that I’ve got much of a way to prove that, but I would not be surprised.

Or I’m just way too distrustful of any megacorp, especially in Elite. And I’m sure Sirius has two towers somewhere…
I'm actually very distrustful of FDev. Sometimes I wonder why they like to make that game, that Elite universe, so deceptive, opaque, dishonest and manipulative?
In fact, I could compare such game management to politicians (in some very undemocratic country) who tell half-truths or half-lies, keep silent about a bunch of important things and overemphasize the little things that suit them, all for the purpose of manipulation.
All these latest Galnet news are a bunch of nothing, or a bunch of semi-information, in order to create excitement and the appearance of some kind of events in the absence of real gameplay.

Well, just look at the last two CGs - first, human greed is rewarded for the senseless purpose of building monuments that we will never see, and then support for the humanitarian purpose of rescuing captured people is not rewarded?
And there is not even any meaningful information about what the goal of this CG is?
Let's be aware that such ugly and absurd situations were not created by the players, but by FDev.

And not to talk about how we can't even trust the patch notes after every update, but we have to spend hours ourselves to check what is true and what is not, and what has been changed without being mentioned in the notes. And then from this lack of transparency and honest communication comes the question that has already become chronic: "Is it a bug or is it a feature"?
(I'm intentionally mixing in-game and out-of-the-game things here, because that's exactly what Fdev often does)

So, I will repeat the question - why? Why build such an atmosphere of mistrust?
Do they think it's interesting and fun for the players? Or challenging?
I don't know what your opinion is, so I would like to hear it.

To me, it's sad and ugly. I didn't come to a space science fiction game to participate in stupid manipulative games. But well, dystopian novels and movies are also part of science fiction, so maybe we live in the Brave New World of Elite Dangerous? But I'd rather say we live in an Elite Idiocracy.
 
The only good thing about the polymers is it's a short run. You can get them at Campbell Plant, which is surface installation the is, depending on the orbits, between 50 & 60 light seconds away from Muller Terminal in the same system. I did it for a day in a python, quick run, about a 12 minute total turn around, but only worth just under 600,000 credits profit for a full load. I'm running thallium now, but I keep having to further afield to get it.
 
I’m still convinced the T1 requirement for the CG would have been perfectly adequate at 10%, or 10 million, looking at overall rate of progression.

I sure as hell doubt people are gonna pull five days’ worth of cargo hauling in the next two for it to reach the 20% marker.

Hello Frontier, please don’t base progress milestones for a delivery initiative with (comparatively) low payouts and absolutely no reward other than “You get a pat on the head for helping a good cause” on the ridiculous multi-billion gold craze of the previous delivery CG.

And please don’t use this as an excuse to shove a ‘Sirius assistance’ down our throat because you yourself(or maybe some algorithm) misjudged the likely engagement for this goal completely. Li Yong-Rui might claim to forfeit ‘corporate rights’ to the technology out of generosity, but we all know that he wouldn’t do so if there weren’t greater profits to be made by whatever can be learned/developed of the Thargoids messing with human biology.
 
The quantities needed for this CG it looks like they have been set to make sure the CG runs the full time to give everyone a chance to participate. This is great when there is a reward like pre-engineered FSDs on offer as such CGs can end very early without a very high goal.

But for this CG it is, for me, pure role play. My commander wants to be able to rescue humans from Titans and this CG must succeed to do this. Credits earned shipping goods is not relevant. I'm hauling Polymers. For the role play to work, the target quantity to collect must be achievable as that is the motivation for doing it.

Are people simply not participating, or is the goal set far higher than can be expected to be reached?
 
The quantities needed for this CG it looks like they have been set to make sure the CG runs the full time to give everyone a chance to participate. This is great when there is a reward like pre-engineered FSDs on offer as such CGs can end very early without a very high goal.

But for this CG it is, for me, pure role play. My commander wants to be able to rescue humans from Titans and this CG must succeed to do this. Credits earned shipping goods is not relevant. I'm hauling Polymers. For the role play to work, the target quantity to collect must be achievable as that is the motivation for doing it.

Are people simply not participating, or is the goal set far higher than can be expected to be reached?
CMDRQuainMarin, if you read this thread from the beginning, and it's not very big, you will find all the answers but also the ambiguities about this CG.
 
Are people simply not participating, or is the goal set far higher than can be expected to be reached?
Sometime players just make a simple calculation of time/reward... credits and/or modules.

Unfortunately not many play for the "roleplay"... we are pirates so we do play for the fun of robbing players and the booty :) we do also belong to an independent power, so we don't participate / support CGs which are backed or sponsored by our enemies (even if the CGs offered interesting modules).
 
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