I've seen pictures.
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I've had the hangovers!
I've seen pictures.
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[...] Surely it's possible to be disappointed but graceful [...]
Hangovers are for amateurs.I've had the hangovers!
This is pretty much the case for almost any running series. You'll get a lot of people showing up just to let everyone know that they didn't watch the video, or the video was bad and the game is bad, or that they quit the game.Sometimes i read the comments on Elite's official Youtube videos, and i feel embarrassed. Yes we are all waiting for some new content, yes the videos are often not particularly useful or informative, yes the carriers cancellation was disheartening, (though personally, i blame the community open letter for that), and yes good videos (like the one they made about the game's different FSS sounds) are rewarded with likes, but it's depressing to see a lot that is written about the commuinity rep streams. Surely it's possible to be disappointed but graceful with criticism at the same time, i'm not sure if the ED community was always like this, but it's getting a bit rough, tbh it reminds me of EvE online at times, and for anyone who hasn't played EvE, that's not a compliment.
Too many generations of folks here, all with different agenda's and opinions.
Dang dis is just the moan zone, comedy bickering is what its for.
For actual ED discussion you have discord and Inara.
Hey, leave my mom outta this!Now, barring the general toxicity and self-centered attitude, I have nothing against young male gamers. I used to be one (albeit with considerably better manners and more consideration for others, I guess my mom did a better job than yours). Just understand that you're not the gate keepers of the community, you don't represent the community,
If anything, people here are too pleasant.
If you were hoping to make a strong statement against toxicity, did you think painting everyone you don't like as "young socially awkward men" was the way to do that?Imagine my surprise, when only the second response was snarky edge lord crap. OP is spot on, the norm on this forum is "funny" trolling or "clever" insults, mostly by dedicated gamer bros who think they're somehow more worthy than the casual plebs or forum dads. I've stated it before and I'll do it again: no matter how much you think you're the real community and others are somehow less deserving because they're not as dedicated (hey, we have actual lives!) and not as gamer bro, you're simply wrong. Gaming is no longer exclusive to a subculture of young socially awkward men, it's mainstream. Gamer bros have become a minority, and I think that's what angers them. QED: gamergate and similar incidents, backlash over female/gay game characters, etc.
Now, barring the general toxicity and self-centered attitude, I have nothing against young male gamers. I used to be one (albeit with considerably better manners and more consideration for others, I guess my mom did a better job than yours). Just understand that you're not the gate keepers of the community, you don't represent the community, and you have no more say-so than anyone else in the community.
Peace & love,
Middle Class Forum Dad Social Justice Warrior
"Be less toxic !"Imagine my surprise, when only the second response was snarky edge lord crap. OP is spot on, the norm on this forum is "funny" trolling or "clever" insults, mostly by dedicated gamer bros who think they're somehow more worthy than the casual plebs or forum dads. I've stated it before and I'll do it again: no matter how much you think you're the real community and others are somehow less deserving because they're not as dedicated (hey, we have actual lives!) and not as gamer bro, you're simply wrong. Gaming is no longer exclusive to a subculture of young socially awkward men, it's mainstream. Gamer bros have become a minority, and I think that's what angers them. QED: gamergate and similar incidents, backlash over female/gay game characters, etc.
Now, barring the general toxicity and self-centered attitude, I have nothing against young male gamers. I used to be one (albeit with considerably better manners and more consideration for others, I guess my mom did a better job than yours). Just understand that you're not the gate keepers of the community, you don't represent the community, and you have no more say-so than anyone else in the community.
Peace & love,
Middle Class Forum Dad Social Justice Warrior
I really wanted to post this, but I'm being watched lol, I have to be good lolIf you were hoping to make a strong statement against toxicity, did you think painting everyone you don't like as "young socially awkward men" was the way to do that?
Though I can see why you agree with OP; you're both basically saying "Be more polite, you losers!" without a whiff of self-awareness.
If we all try to be more friendly, helpful and a bit more focused on the topic of Elite Dangerous and less about the personality of other posters, then this can be a very nice place for discussing actual Elite Dangerous topics.
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...snarky edge lord crap ... dedicated gamer bros ... gamer bro ... young socially awkward men ... Gamer bros ... young male gamers ... my mom did a better job than yours
He kinda has a point though, Zadian.
If we all try to be more friendly, helpful and a bit more focused on the topic of Elite Dangerous and less about the personality of other posters, then this can be a very nice place for discussing actual Elite Dangerous topics.
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Imagine my surprise, when only the second response was snarky edge lord crap. OP is spot on, the norm on this forum is "funny" trolling or "clever" insults, mostly by dedicated gamer bros who think they're somehow more worthy than the casual plebs or forum dads. I've stated it before and I'll do it again: no matter how much you think you're the real community and others are somehow less deserving because they're not as dedicated (hey, we have actual lives!) and not as gamer bro, you're simply wrong. Gaming is no longer exclusive to a subculture of young socially awkward men, it's mainstream. Gamer bros have become a minority, and I think that's what angers them. QED: gamergate and similar incidents, backlash over female/gay game characters, etc.
Now, barring the general toxicity and self-centered attitude, I have nothing against young male gamers. I used to be one (albeit with considerably better manners and more consideration for others, I guess my mom did a better job than yours). Just understand that you're not the gate keepers of the community, you don't represent the community, and you have no more say-so than anyone else in the community.
Peace & love,
Middle Class Forum Dad Social Justice Warrior