We Need to be Better as a Community

Sometimes i read the comments on Elite's official Youtube videos, and i feel embarrassed. Yes we are all waiting for some new content, yes the videos are often not particularly useful or informative, yes the carriers cancellation was disheartening, (though personally, i blame the community open letter for that), and yes good videos (like the one they made about the game's different FSS sounds) are rewarded with likes, but it's depressing to see a lot that is written about the commuinity rep streams. Surely it's possible to be disappointed but graceful with criticism at the same time, i'm not sure if the ED community was always like this, but it's getting a bit rough, tbh it reminds me of EvE online at times, and for anyone who hasn't played EvE, that's not a compliment.
 
Sometimes i read the comments on Elite's official Youtube videos, and i feel embarrassed. Yes we are all waiting for some new content, yes the videos are often not particularly useful or informative, yes the carriers cancellation was disheartening, (though personally, i blame the community open letter for that), and yes good videos (like the one they made about the game's different FSS sounds) are rewarded with likes, but it's depressing to see a lot that is written about the commuinity rep streams. Surely it's possible to be disappointed but graceful with criticism at the same time, i'm not sure if the ED community was always like this, but it's getting a bit rough, tbh it reminds me of EvE online at times, and for anyone who hasn't played EvE, that's not a compliment.
This is pretty much the case for almost any running series. You'll get a lot of people showing up just to let everyone know that they didn't watch the video, or the video was bad and the game is bad, or that they quit the game.

Some people are very small.
 
Imagine my surprise, when only the second response was snarky edge lord crap. OP is spot on, the norm on this forum is "funny" trolling or "clever" insults, mostly by dedicated gamer bros who think they're somehow more worthy than the casual plebs or forum dads. I've stated it before and I'll do it again: no matter how much you think you're the real community and others are somehow less deserving because they're not as dedicated (hey, we have actual lives!) and not as gamer bro, you're simply wrong. Gaming is no longer exclusive to a subculture of young socially awkward men, it's mainstream. Gamer bros have become a minority, and I think that's what angers them. QED: gamergate and similar incidents, backlash over female/gay game characters, etc.

Now, barring the general toxicity and self-centered attitude, I have nothing against young male gamers. I used to be one (albeit with considerably better manners and more consideration for others, I guess my mom did a better job than yours). Just understand that you're not the gate keepers of the community, you don't represent the community, and you have no more say-so than anyone else in the community.

Peace & love,
Middle Class Forum Dad Social Justice Warrior
 
Too many generations of folks here, all with different agenda's and opinions.

Respectfully and kindly agreeing to disagree is a grossly undervalued skill, but it's fully possible. But this forum, and most of the big bad internet, is breeding grounds to a snarky troll culture that really needs to die. Yeah, trolling can be anarchistic fun, but it doesn't need to be so hostile. And we're trying to actually discuss things here, it's not a snarky remark contest!
 
If anything, people here are too pleasant.
Please!!! running around silent and conformed souls in the void
TALK TO ME!! PLEASE! looking at a soul that do not dare to speak their true mind

I just want to discuss something without the veil of the social contract hanging over my head. looking at the silent soul

I just want to be human again sinking to the knees with despair upon a troubled brow

I can't take it.... I can't stand being this moderated any longer!!! *cries with salty tears flowing, dripping on the barren sands of the desolate desert of indestructible social justice.

When people are too pleasant, there is usually something horribly wrong. A nightmare of critical thinking silence.
 
Imagine my surprise, when only the second response was snarky edge lord crap. OP is spot on, the norm on this forum is "funny" trolling or "clever" insults, mostly by dedicated gamer bros who think they're somehow more worthy than the casual plebs or forum dads. I've stated it before and I'll do it again: no matter how much you think you're the real community and others are somehow less deserving because they're not as dedicated (hey, we have actual lives!) and not as gamer bro, you're simply wrong. Gaming is no longer exclusive to a subculture of young socially awkward men, it's mainstream. Gamer bros have become a minority, and I think that's what angers them. QED: gamergate and similar incidents, backlash over female/gay game characters, etc.

Now, barring the general toxicity and self-centered attitude, I have nothing against young male gamers. I used to be one (albeit with considerably better manners and more consideration for others, I guess my mom did a better job than yours). Just understand that you're not the gate keepers of the community, you don't represent the community, and you have no more say-so than anyone else in the community.

Peace & love,
Middle Class Forum Dad Social Justice Warrior
If you were hoping to make a strong statement against toxicity, did you think painting everyone you don't like as "young socially awkward men" was the way to do that?

Though I can see why you agree with OP; you're both basically saying "Be more polite, you losers!" without a whiff of self-awareness.
 
Imagine my surprise, when only the second response was snarky edge lord crap. OP is spot on, the norm on this forum is "funny" trolling or "clever" insults, mostly by dedicated gamer bros who think they're somehow more worthy than the casual plebs or forum dads. I've stated it before and I'll do it again: no matter how much you think you're the real community and others are somehow less deserving because they're not as dedicated (hey, we have actual lives!) and not as gamer bro, you're simply wrong. Gaming is no longer exclusive to a subculture of young socially awkward men, it's mainstream. Gamer bros have become a minority, and I think that's what angers them. QED: gamergate and similar incidents, backlash over female/gay game characters, etc.

Now, barring the general toxicity and self-centered attitude, I have nothing against young male gamers. I used to be one (albeit with considerably better manners and more consideration for others, I guess my mom did a better job than yours). Just understand that you're not the gate keepers of the community, you don't represent the community, and you have no more say-so than anyone else in the community.

Peace & love,
Middle Class Forum Dad Social Justice Warrior
"Be less toxic !"
"Btw you all suck"
 
If you were hoping to make a strong statement against toxicity, did you think painting everyone you don't like as "young socially awkward men" was the way to do that?

Though I can see why you agree with OP; you're both basically saying "Be more polite, you losers!" without a whiff of self-awareness.
I really wanted to post this, but I'm being watched lol, I have to be good lol
 
If we all try to be more friendly, helpful and a bit more focused on the topic of Elite Dangerous and less about the personality of other posters, then this can be a very nice place for discussing actual Elite Dangerous topics.
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...snarky edge lord crap ... dedicated gamer bros ... gamer bro ... young socially awkward men ... Gamer bros ... young male gamers ... my mom did a better job than yours
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If we all try to be more friendly, helpful and a bit more focused on the topic of Elite Dangerous and less about the personality of other posters, then this can be a very nice place for discussing actual Elite Dangerous topics.
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Lost cause. New posters get mobbed by the serial whingers and either join in, poke them with the comedy stick or give up on it.
 
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Imagine my surprise, when only the second response was snarky edge lord crap. OP is spot on, the norm on this forum is "funny" trolling or "clever" insults, mostly by dedicated gamer bros who think they're somehow more worthy than the casual plebs or forum dads. I've stated it before and I'll do it again: no matter how much you think you're the real community and others are somehow less deserving because they're not as dedicated (hey, we have actual lives!) and not as gamer bro, you're simply wrong. Gaming is no longer exclusive to a subculture of young socially awkward men, it's mainstream. Gamer bros have become a minority, and I think that's what angers them. QED: gamergate and similar incidents, backlash over female/gay game characters, etc.

Now, barring the general toxicity and self-centered attitude, I have nothing against young male gamers. I used to be one (albeit with considerably better manners and more consideration for others, I guess my mom did a better job than yours). Just understand that you're not the gate keepers of the community, you don't represent the community, and you have no more say-so than anyone else in the community.

Peace & love,
Middle Class Forum Dad Social Justice Warrior


Does anyone remember that red-dwarf episode, when Kryten the robot's nose explodes on sniffing the highly toxic air of an alien planet, he screws in a spare nose he had, confidently setting it to minimum olfactory sensitivity, but it explodes as well? That's what's happened to my eyeballs on coming across this post and getting massive, nuclear-clicking readings of arrogance, except i don't have a spare pair.
 
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