What the hell? When did this get introduced?

n13L5

n13L5
Granted, I haven't been playing between 1.4 and this January, but this makes no sense either way!

When you've picked a station as your HQ, and you're storing all ships that matter there - to reduce the logistics curse placed on you as a player, things work a little better and you have all your modules available for fitting etc...


So, at some point, it must have gotten changed, that when the controlling faction goes into the state of "Lockdown" players cannot access outfitting, nor any of their modules?

This is nuts! I'm supposed to stop playing, because some dumb irrelevant space station "faction" went into lockdown? God, where's the single player game where I can avoid installing patches with annoying "features"...?


Seriously, is this meant to be like this, or is this some new bug introduced in 3.0?

(I have no fines or bounties anywhere, so that's not it)

The stinking materials trader also doesn't work now...


EDIT: EDIT2: Big mistake to tell anyone the system you're in...

Bad Karma collectors appear to be legion in Elite
 
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Garand1987

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Koen said:
On the contrary: time to start bounty hunting and turning in bounty vouchers to end the lockdown.
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Exactly. Start turning in them bounties and doing missions for the controlling faction in order to end the lockdown. If you’ve got some buddies in game, take them along with you.
 

Echo Wake

Echo Wake
n13L5 said:
Granted, I haven't been playing between 1.4 and this January, but this makes no sense either way!

When you've picked a station as your HQ, and you're storing all ships that matter there - to reduce the logistics curse placed on you as a player, things work a little better and you have all your modules available for fitting etc...


So, at some point, it must have gotten changed, that when the controlling faction goes into the state of "Lockdown" players cannot access outfitting, nor any of their modules?

This is nuts! I'm supposed to stop playing, because some dumb irrelevant space station "faction" went into lockdown? God, where's the single player game where I can avoid installing patches with annoying "features"...?


Seriously, is this meant to be like this, or is this some new bug introduced in 3.0?

(I have no fines or bounties anywhere, so that's not it)

The stinking materials trader also doesn't work now...
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This has been a part of the game since I started playing back in February of 2016.

As most individual players probably do not read galnet our even pay attention to faction influences, it's not surprising you missed this.

You can see the trends of factions in your system and you could have helped prevent it from going into lockdown. Now you have get it out of lock down. Missions to boost influence, I don't think will work as the faction is in lockdown. You will have to bounty hunt... And do you smuggle goods into a black market. If so then you'd be partly to blame...

Either way, like someone stated above, let us know what system and I'm sure you get some help pulling it out of lockdown.
 
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n13L5

n13L5
Koen said:
On the contrary: time to start bounty hunting and turning in bounty vouchers to end the lockdown.
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I don't like missions for one thing, its not what I'm playing for - for another, if I'm going to start bounty hunting, I need to fit a ship for it first, but I can't.

I have a real-world scheduled time to get certain things done in the game. I don't fight much in the game so I don't have a ready set-up ship - most of my ships don't even have guns installed... I was working on getting to leave for some exploration, not blowing up ships...


And I don't have all day to move my stuff somewhere else and try to do my fitting elsewhere. I have several parts to complete the engineering, cause 3.0 engineering RNG ground me for even more than the usual amount of 40 materials per mod. Handling the logistics of getting all this crap was frankly all I had patience for...

- Driving your SRV around a planet for materials is fun for about 20 minutes. But after 20 minutes, you have nowhere near the amount of stuff required.
- Scanning ships or wakes is fun for about zero minutes, but after zero minutes, you have zip
- staring into the black for little beige USS circles to appear is already not fun even thinking about it, let alone being there and keeping your eyes from closing with match sticks...

All soaking up my time, but not providing anywhere near the fun ratio I get from other games... And then it thwarts me when I'm almost to my goal...
Yuk!

Must I move to Shinrarta Dezra or could they also go into lock down on any god forsaken day I happen to want to fit a ship?



One last point: I play games to do what I want. Not what NPCs want..... eeep, wrong game. Load up Assassin's Creed, get everything you want, when you want..
 
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n13L5 said:
I don't like missions for one thing, its not what I'm playing for - for another, if I'm going to start bounty hunting, I need to fit a ship for it first, but I can't.

And I don't have all day to move my stuff somewhere else and try to do my fitting elsewhere. I have several parts to complete the engineering, cause 3.0 engineering RNG ground me for even more than the usual amount of materials.


You must understand - I have a scheduled time to get certain things done in the game. I don't fight much in the game so I don't have a ready set-up ship - I was working on getting to leave for some exploration, not blowing up ships...
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Oh well. Sometimes you eat the bear... Sometimes the bear eats you.

Sitting around crying about it certainly isn't going to help.
 
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Mohrgan

Mohrgan
n13L5 said:
I don't like missions for one thing, its not what I'm playing for - for another, if I'm going to start bounty hunting, I need to fit a ship for it first, but I can't.

And I don't have all day to move my stuff somewhere else and try to do my fitting elsewhere. I have several parts to complete the engineering, cause 3.0 engineering RNG ground me for even more than the usual amount of materials.


You must understand - I have a scheduled time to get certain things done in the game. I don't fight much in the game so I don't have a ready set-up ship - I was working on getting to leave for some exploration, not blowing up ships...
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It's just another aspect of situational awareness. There are indicators, telling you that your home system/ststion's status will/is changing.
 

mossfoot

mossfoot
n13L5 said:
I don't like missions for one thing, its not what I'm playing for - for another, if I'm going to start bounty hunting, I need to fit a ship for it first, but I can't.

And I don't have all day to move my stuff somewhere else and try to do my fitting elsewhere. I have several parts to complete the engineering, cause 3.0 engineering RNG ground me for even more than the usual amount of materials.


You must understand - I have a scheduled time to get certain things done in the game. I don't fight much in the game so I don't have a ready set-up ship - I was working on getting to leave for some exploration, not blowing up ships...
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If you go to an adjacent system, transferring your ships will only take 5 minutes
 

Adhock

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You don't need a hardcore combat ship to go BH'ing. Just A-rated shields in your highest rated optional slot, better armor, and a mutilayered loadout for dealing with shields and armor/hull. Hell, I go BH'ing with C rated shields and I do just fine. Overengineered death machines aren't necessary.

Just drop into a Rez site or the Nav Beacon and start scanning away. Find the wanted ships and blast them. When the authorites show up just start following them around and pick off whatever they attack. Don't even need missions.

Turning in the Bounties will undo the lockdown. If you press hard enough, you can lift it in a day.

Sitting here complaining isn't going to lift it any sooner. Get cracking or put out a call for combat specialists to do the job for you.
 

Sylveria

Sylveria
Lockdown states have existed well since before 3.0 was introduced, it's part of the Background Simulation (BGS) that some are moaning on about.

The BGS is an integral part of the game only in that it affects everyone- regardless of the mode you choose to play in, or your playstyle. (PvP/PvE,RPG, etc.)

The BGS can be affected by anyone in any mode- by simply playing the game itself and performing counter-actions in response to the states changing. A good example of Bounty Hunting and turning in vouchers has already been given previously- and there's counter-actions for every state change. (delivering medical goods for "Outbreak", etc.)

As Mohrgan also pointed out- situational awareness is good, too- you can typically tell what the state change may be if you're paying attention to the station's state once docked and it will usually give you adequate warning so that you can prepare for whatever it will be. If I don't feel like engaging at present moment, I'll simply plan to do something in another system that isn't affected by the current state. (therefore negating the "effect" the state has on my personal game) Or, I'll indirectly engage by performing counter-actions to assist in another state change.
 

Crank Larson

Crank Larson
n13L5 said:
Must I move to Shinrarta Dezra or could they also go into lock down on any god forsaken day I happen to want to fit a ship?
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Any station can potentially go into lockdown, I believe. It's part of the game... Though most of your comments seem to imply that you are not enjoying many parts of the game, so it does make me wonder why you are bothering...
 

n13L5

n13L5
Mohrgan said:
It's just another aspect of situational awareness. There are indicators, telling you that your home system/ststion's status will/is changing.
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I can't be situationally aware if I haven't been there for a week, hunting down materials for my exploration ship all over the place.


Writing the thesis for one of my wife's business admin college classes was less work and less involved by several orders of magnitude!
 

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n13L5 said:
I can't be situationally aware if I haven't been there for a week, hunting down materials for my exploration ship all over the place.
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Hyperbole.

Anyway, as others have pointed out, it literally takes five to six minutes to transfer the ship you want to the next system over.
 
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