What's with all the guys using female avatars?
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I mostly roll a human in roleplaying games for a really different reason. I think there is so much about humanity to roleplay, I'm nowhere near feeling like I've 'run out' of human characters to play with. For the most part, RPG non-humans are just a way to focus on one particular aspect of humanity anyway... and sometimes I feel like that pushes me to play either a stereotype, or a character who's defined by subverting the stereotype.
On the gender point I'm absolutely with you though, and I think most people feel this way. I honestly suspect a lot of the "I like looking at women's bottoms in games" crowd are really just pre-emptively defending their sexuality/gender identity. I guess some people probably do like their gaming with a slice of pornography, but... that can't be that common, can it? Then again, pop and rap music videos...
Some things are just facts of life that there is no point getting upset over. It seems to me that people spend far too much time getting upset about things on behalf of other people for absolutely no reason.
This part of the post is particularly important: "mostly because of the reason of my understanding of their problem"
In other words, "I don't understand it, and I'm going to perpetuate my own wilful ignorance and choose not to try and understand it, and attack instead."
Don't make me talk about my 21 STO characters and their crew. Harem...(clothing included.)
About this? I don't disagree, neither going to agree, for a simple reason. Al trough i can understand some of their pain, but sure as hell i can't agree with the rights defender hysteria around these sort of subject, mostly because of the reason of my understanding of their problem, and also because i know right defenders very well..
For my part? They are just another when the hunting season starts group, and the hysteria some of this whackos generating around LMBTQI subject? Reason to shoot!
I don't understand what you mean? Well I hope not anyway.
Yes, You're right. So Minonian, perhaps I should tell you "their problem" such that you at least have some understanding. LGBT people were:
* As recently as 50 years ago imprisoned, beaten and chemically castrated simply for how they behaved privately in Western countries.
* Were rounded up and killed en mass by several 20th century regimes.
* Even now, they're murdered and suffer state sanctioned capital and corporal punishment in many countries throughout the world.
* As recently as 20 years ago were routinely killed in (parts of) of countries like Australia (and probably the UK and US too) with a blind eye being turned deliberately by local police.
Why would such a group of people not want to improve their rights in this world? And more to the point, why wouldn't you want that too? Shouldn't all people be left alone to live as they want to?
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On a peripherally related note. I'm pretty impressed with the hollow me options. From hot to uggo (both sexes) it's all possible. They also didn't overdo it so it's easy to get something out quickly.
Here's mine, on my desk, with a few actual pics of me. I was surprised how close I managed to get it (from a certain angle in a certain light):
Here's mine, on my desk, with a few actual pics of me. I was surprised how close I managed to get it (from a certain angle in a certain light):
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Not at all. I play elves in many games, as well as various kinds of alien in others. I roll female and male characters, though the majority tend to be female.
Not sure if you have ever been in a room full of women or overheard a group of women talking. Now I am going to ruin your perceptions of that fairer sex, they objectify men in the same tones as men do with women. When it comes down to it all we are sexual creatures and without that drive then the human race would of gone extinct many thousands of years ago.
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I play male or female characters in different games all the time.
Why do people care?
Why do people care?
Minonian
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Here is the hard truth! Big rep for it.
And also? Sexuality, is not (just) about necessity, but also in our nature, and to act as a Christian Nun or some priest, or monk? Well, lucky for me, i'm neither. Nor a feminist gone nuts, and freaks out for a tough for a man curious about her.
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I'm reasonably sure that the 'genderswapping-for-masturbatory-sex-kicks' contingent have much more in common with my 'dude-carrying-a-sexdoll-around-town-to-fixate-upon' scenario, than they do with people who have real-life conversations with actual people about who they find attractive [haha]
And where is that contingent you've conjured up? I don't see them represented here.
Quoted a few, in my post that you replied to earlier. Keep up!
But you didn't. Nowhere in your quotes did they state or imply anything of the sort. Keep what up? Pointing out your strawman?
The psychological mechanisms that lead to a decision to play a different gender are deeply rooted. They are not arbitrary.
To be clear, you think:
1. Choosing a female avatar in a game is 'gender swapping',
2. Any form of aesthetic appreciation (even if it is aesthetic, but sure, including sexual) actually involves hand-down-trousers yanking,
3. Gender swapping and masturbation are things you can reasonably expect to take the redacted reference to a colloquial word for urine out of.
4. Particularly, because you can't get some peculiar idea involving carrying about a sex doll out of your head... something something, equate the two?
Is that right? I think you came into this thread with a position that was reductive and unhelpful, but at least I could see roughly what principles you were trying to defend. Think you're losing credibility now though.
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