Why is console still being ignored

I don't think it's useless. If people keep asking for it for long enough, and they continue to see it for years and years, they might start reconsidering it
If people will keep telling you that ody isnt going to be ported will you eventually stop?
No offense meant.

Not to mention i dont want to make psn account to be able to play pc game, so dont sony yourself too much :p
 
Over 50 million PlayStation 5 units have been sold. The potential userbase is enormous. And Odyssey already costs money to purchase. You write as if Odyssey were a free expansion, and making it commercial on the consoles would be preposterous, and nobody would buy it. People are already buying it on PC, very much including those who had only Horizons before.
The really famous problem with Odyssey is that people aren't already buying it on PC in high numbers. There are about 50 million gaming PCs sold annually too, but most of their owners didn't want Odyssey, so that doesn't really help.

From measures like in-game traffic reports and squadron leaderboards, both consoles combined appear to be about 1/4 of the total ED player base (and that was similar pre- and post-Odyssey). So each console is probably about 1/8, so expected Odyssey sales from each port would be around 1/6 of the sales on PC, or 1/3 the PC sales if the same work was largely reusable for both ports.

It's unfortunate that there are both many thousands of console players who are big fans of Elite Dangerous and absolutely would buy Odyssey instantly if it was available (who are justifiably unhappy at Frontier's decisions!) - and some might even pay the £35 original release price rather than the current £10 PC price - but there are almost certainly not the hundreds of thousands needed to make it commercially successful.
 
I think the issue is we ( console players) will always live in the vain hope that Fdev will need that extra 1/4 of players money ?
The question however how many console players would now support Fdev now ?
The console base is still lively ( in fact I've probably seen more commanders now than when it was live ??) and the squad leader boards ( Xbox) are contested and they are a small base of the actual players playing.
At the end of the day there will always be posts saying hey console is still alive please don't forget about us .
And whilst some don't understand why.
Its just unfortunately there is no other game like Elite in that space game genre for consoles and we that still play are very passionate about it .
 

rootsrat

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I don't think it's useless. If people keep asking for it for long enough, and they continue to see it for years and years, they might start reconsidering it.

On the contrary, if people stop asking for it, they may take that as a sign that people aren't interested, only reinforcing their decision.

I wouldn't be surprised if there is currently stuff in the game that was implemented precisely because people kept asking it long enough, which wouldn't exist if people had stopped.

In 2014 FDEV announced that ED will be translated into Polish language. We've been asking for it for 6 years, very vocally, very often, very polite (mostly).

We've had multiple CM's promising us (actually using that word) they will find out if and when this will happen.

We've been sending nice gift (custom made calendar with beautiful Elite screenshots) to David Braben with a nice letter reminding about our community every year since 2015. (And we know he was getting them, because he was posting about on social media).

And yet here we are 10 years later with no Polish translation.

Do you know what's the worst? FDEV never actually said they wouldn't do it. They never confirmed they were done with their plans to do it.

You got closure, a definite answer it's not happening. Accept it. Because spamming the forums is not they way to get things done.
 
So are you saying we aren't allowed to post? or is that in the vain hope that we listen( like Fdev) ?

Do we just roll over ? Be shushed into a corner ?
I'm afraid if you haven't realised by now that it's not really a thing I do .
 

rootsrat

Volunteer Moderator
So are you saying we aren't allowed to post? or is that in the vain hope that we listen( like Fdev) ?

Do we just roll over ? Be shushed into a corner ?
I'm afraid if you haven't realised by now that it's not really a thing I do .
No, of course you're allowed to post. But expect people to disagree with your plea.

We've seen the game actually speeding up development after the console announcement, just as they said. I for one really wouldn't want to go into another year or three od nothingness, just for them to try (as success is not guaranteed) to make it work on consoles... again.

If they've had enough free resources? Sure, why not. But they don't. Personally, if I had to choose between no development and consoles getting Odyssey vs game thriving on PC only and consoles having access to Legacy - I'd go with the latter.

But its all theoretical, because they did say console development is done and finished.

So yeah, dead horse. It ain't getting up.
 
I sort of expect folk to disagree with most of the things I post, that's why I post it.
I would disagree of the speed of development of though, it's only been a couple of years since consoles "officially" were canned and 3 years since EDO dropped , but thats just my opinion and we as Elite players have always had a long view.
And with limited resources since the redistribution of said resources yes no need to waste any time on console as that's been written off .
As to flogging a dead horse ? Yes the horse isn't getting up but hey I'm not even sure if I'm sane anymore .
 
Over 50 million PlayStation 5 units have been sold.
How many PS4 units were sold? And how many of those played ED when it was actively supported for console?
I think the issue is we ( console players) will always live in the vain hope that Fdev will need that extra 1/4 of players money ?
According to the 'experts' who refer to their absolutely accurate steam charts for trends, less than 4,000 players play ED/O, so developing for around 1,000 players on console would be an even bigger loss than EDO for PC only, surely?

(Pardon the tongue-in-cheek response, if FD had confidence that a current generation console edition (if they were permitted by the console manufacturers to release such a version) was going to be a profitable venture, they would surely be running with the ball by now?)
 
Mr @Rat Catcher using steam charts 🤣🤣🤣even I won't go that far . The points raised are good, will Fdev put any effort in for a minimal increase ? Nah as any business they are in for the money as seen by many poor releases lately ( at least on Xbox). I'm not sure if the console manufacturer's would really care for such a niche game ( as shown by the ahem "steam numbers" 🤣😉) . At the time of EDO drop Next gen were few and far between and so the demand would have been minimal and jump forward to this year, I dont think Fdev have it in them to look at consoles ( Elite) . But my glass is always half empty ??
 
At the time of EDO drop Next gen were few and far between
I was on Sony's PS5 direct list for a while.
They sent me 2 emails with an offer to buy within the next hour... The first time I was out shopping in the local city, the second driving down the M5 toward Exmoor...
They didn't send a third, and by then I couldn't be bothered and upgraded my PC a bit more... (PS5 would have been considerably cheaper!)
 
Legacy Servers will just keep going until they switch the Live Servers off. We just got hit with ALL the Arx price hikes that the Live players got so they'll keep squeezing the game until they're done.
I'm still having a blast on Legacy doing BGS for my faction.
The changes on Live (pre built ships, dumbed down engineering) doesn't interest me at all.
I've just passed 150 fully engineered ships on Legacy (I only have 85 on my transferred account) so Legacy lives on for me until FDev decide otherwise.
 
Let's ask the question, would all players of legacy rush out and buy the new console, then pay for the "new" game through whatever service the console makers provide? Probably not.
Were there plenty of console players rushing out and buying/upgrading their PCs? Probably not.
 
No, they didn't. They very clearly said LIVE version of Horizons will be able to buy access to new ships for ARX.

Legacy, regardless of whether it's PC or Console, as mentioned above, is done. The end. Koniec. El Fin. Das Ende. La Fin.

No. More. New. Content.
No need to spell it out so pretentiously and condescendingly.
 
I would like to add to this conversation that at the time, it would appear that fdev was trying to get odyssey to work on console. This is according to Dr Kay.
Source: https://x.com/drkayross/status/1501985758076411909?t=pQVSe0hb8XWdRM55Yo8jCw&s=19
On last gen ? There was no work done for next gen . Even I understood my Xbox one would never manage to run it and upgraded accordingly. But even she said she doesn't know why Fdev stopped working on console . My own opinion was Fdev used it as an easy get out " we couldn't get it to work on last gen so we stopped" because at the time the game was a mess and they needed to sort it out for PC . Myself like many others called Consoles being binned well before the official line came out .
But the fact is Fdev have consigned console Elite to the bin with no new updates or work or big fixes unless it's critical or marking up arx . Their wording should have been better when the python MK2 was announced but again showed Fdevs thoughts on consoles.
But truth be told consoles are no more . I've had 9 years of playing Elite but very rarely comment any more, I was fairly outspoken as some may know. Now I understand that many PC players often criticise the ongoing what about console but as I said in an earlier post @Rubbernuke has been going on about PP for years and look at what's happening. Many console players just want Fdev to know we are still around and still playing .
The written word can be construed as a person reads it and this can cause offence? Or can come across as "shut up you don't count". Whether it's meant or not.
 
@Rubbernuke has been going on about PP for years and look at what's happening.
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