More mountain animals would be great. Though they're not completely associated with the biome, the Wolverine would fit with this. I'm hoping they don't miss out a potential inclusion on a third pack (could have easily been in NAAP or Europe Pack)
Winter DLC Speculation
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This would be SUCH a cool pack, I'd love all these species in-game. Although, I'd love to see a vicuña and markhor over here too, but you can't have everything.
This is not what I have written. If you read my Post again you See that I have never compared a monkey or the armadillo with the ocelot. I have just said that we only have 2 carnivores from South America and I agreed that the fishing cat can be chosen as well as the Ocelot. The carnivore thing was perhaps at the end a bit against Doran (sorry) because he often writes against more carnivores and I am a different opinion. (But @Doran : Your opinion is as valid as mine. We are just another opinion).
I will forever not get the "another carnivore" thing. Too divers of an attribute to me. But to each their own. I don't exactly think in groups, so I also didn't understand why people see the red fox as "another fox".
Mind you, I am guilty of that too on occasions but am trying to avoid it now (crocs and antilopes)
Mind you, I am guilty of that too on occasions but am trying to avoid it now (crocs and antilopes)
A mountain pack would be neat, I'd be down for that! I just hope they don't sleep on Oceania and South America again lol. Can we please have more than one (two if we're lucky) Oceanian/South American animals every other pack? Can they stop being the afterthought?
(Anyway, keas pls Frontier
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(Anyway, keas pls Frontier
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Thoughts...
I might be off on my intpretation of the gold star message on the new scenerio, so I hope someone else on here finishes it soon and gives me their thoughts
But while we're speculating wildly, I think that mountains/highland has oodles of potential -
Large carnivore - Spectacled bear seems most likely
Small carnivore - Pallas cat, Andean mountain cat, wolverine seems less likely directly after getting the skunk but who knows)
Primates - Geladas seem likely, but L'Hoest's monkey and the ever-popular snub-nosed monkey would also fit.
Habitat bird - Bar-headed goose, or any number of pheasants
Ungulates - So. Many. Takin, yak, Japanese serrow, markhor, tahr, mountain goat, chamois, big horned sheep, highland cow, alpaca, guanaco...
Odd balls - Tree kangaroo species, rock wallaby, rock hyrax, alpine marmot, short-tailed chinchilla
Exhibit Animal - If we assume a walkthrough or aviary-type exhibit there are any number of mountain dwelling birds which would fit. A bird of prey? A kea parrot? Something else?
I might be off on my intpretation of the gold star message on the new scenerio, so I hope someone else on here finishes it soon and gives me their thoughts
But while we're speculating wildly, I think that mountains/highland has oodles of potential -
Large carnivore - Spectacled bear seems most likely
Small carnivore - Pallas cat, Andean mountain cat, wolverine seems less likely directly after getting the skunk but who knows)
Primates - Geladas seem likely, but L'Hoest's monkey and the ever-popular snub-nosed monkey would also fit.
Habitat bird - Bar-headed goose, or any number of pheasants
Ungulates - So. Many. Takin, yak, Japanese serrow, markhor, tahr, mountain goat, chamois, big horned sheep, highland cow, alpaca, guanaco...
Odd balls - Tree kangaroo species, rock wallaby, rock hyrax, alpine marmot, short-tailed chinchilla
Exhibit Animal - If we assume a walkthrough or aviary-type exhibit there are any number of mountain dwelling birds which would fit. A bird of prey? A kea parrot? Something else?
If mountains will come my perfect pack would be this:
1# Spectacled Bear: Big carnivore, number 1 bear on wishlist
2# Sichuan Takin: Big herbivore, high on possibilities
3# Gelada: Another monkey, cool addition from Zoo Tycoon 2
4# Wolverine: Small carnivore, very requested
5# Yellow-Footed Rock Wallaby: Oceanian Representation, cool choice
6# Yellow-Bellied Marmot:
7# Markhor: Medium Herbivore, requested by people, Zoo tycoon 2 Animal
8# Kea: Interesant first choice to introduce birds to the game. Being part of the new walkrought exhibit with a mountain theme. Maybye a great first bird choice for come to Planet zoo. Essential Oceanian representation
I know, a Kea for the pack, why? Well, this will hype the community so bad, being this bird the head of the pack and the first flying bird coming to Planet zoo. This would guarantee us more birds in the future. And well, there are not many mountain exhibit animals. Maybye eastern box turtles or moss vipers, but a Kea would be the future of Flying birds
1# Spectacled Bear: Big carnivore, number 1 bear on wishlist
2# Sichuan Takin: Big herbivore, high on possibilities
3# Gelada: Another monkey, cool addition from Zoo Tycoon 2
4# Wolverine: Small carnivore, very requested
5# Yellow-Footed Rock Wallaby: Oceanian Representation, cool choice
6# Yellow-Bellied Marmot:
7# Markhor: Medium Herbivore, requested by people, Zoo tycoon 2 Animal
8# Kea: Interesant first choice to introduce birds to the game. Being part of the new walkrought exhibit with a mountain theme. Maybye a great first bird choice for come to Planet zoo. Essential Oceanian representation
I know, a Kea for the pack, why? Well, this will hype the community so bad, being this bird the head of the pack and the first flying bird coming to Planet zoo. This would guarantee us more birds in the future. And well, there are not many mountain exhibit animals. Maybye eastern box turtles or moss vipers, but a Kea would be the future of Flying birds
They're never going to retroactively switch out animals even if those choices would have made more sense for base game inclusions. Same reason as to why habitat iguanas are never happening--it would literally mess with people's pre-existing builds.
I like the idea of a Mountain/Highlands Pack, specially if is an animal pack to have more fauna. There are some mountainous regions that need be improved as the Andes, Himalaya-Tibetan Plateau, the Alps for example (personally I don't count the Appalachian or Rocky Mountains, both in NA, because we have many species that live in those regions, including the Twilight Pack, but who knows...)
Could be great to see this habitat animals:
Personally I don't know which exhibit animal to choose, especially if it's an animal to the new walkrought exhibit
Could be great to see this habitat animals:
- Spectacled bear (SA)
- Vicuña (SA)
- Screaming hairy armadillo (SA)
- Markhor (Asia)
Wildyak (Asia)- Pallas's cat (Asia)
- Alpine marmot (Europe)
Personally I don't know which exhibit animal to choose, especially if it's an animal to the new walkrought exhibit
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Better just yak
I like both domestic and wild yak. I definitely prefer the wild version much more.
Amazing animals but I’m afraid a wild version wouldn’t do very well in zoos. Their prone to overheating and prefer to stay away from humans. There is a interesting video of a wild yak tangling with a domestic and the wild yak absolutely destroyed it’s domesticated cousin. None were hurt but interesting nonetheless.
Amazing animals but I’m afraid a wild version wouldn’t do very well in zoos. Their prone to overheating and prefer to stay away from humans. There is a interesting video of a wild yak tangling with a domestic and the wild yak absolutely destroyed it’s domesticated cousin. None were hurt but interesting nonetheless.
This would be my perfect Mountain Animal Pack
The kea is the perfect inclusion for the walkthrough exhibit.
I really like the general vibe of these mountain packs, but I'm really iffy on the yellow-footed rock wallaby. It's a really cool species, but the reason I want a wallaby is for their commonness and mundanity - the rock wallaby doesn't satisfy that at all. I'd be fine with them as a second wallaby, but I think I'd be disappointed if they ended up being the only one we get.
That’s part of why I like fitting the yellow-footed rock-wallaby into a mountain pack - because in most other instances it’d probably be shafted in favour of the Bennett’s wallaby. IMO we need at least two wallaby species - the rock-wallaby and the Bennett’s wallaby are as different as an ibex and a gazelle, members of the same family that are adapted to a completely different environment and lifestyle. Macropods are a very diverse group (I could easily make a whole animal pack of them) so it’s a shame that in terms of PZ they’ve just been reduced to “kangaroo, wallaby and tree kangaroo”.
I wonder if Frontier sees it that way. In general they seem to work in a "rule of two" (with some exceptions), with the "two" being somewhat varied (e.g. two brown bears instead of just two bears), and I can totally see them putting the kangaroo and wallaby together as "two macropods".
This is a concern yeah, and could totally see that being the case. That said, as long as the Bennett’s wallaby remained highly requested after the addition of the rock-wallaby, it’d hopefully be clear to Frontier that it didn’t satiate our need for species from this group. It's a "rule" with many exceptions - there's three deer, three wolves, three foxes, three bovines, and if we are getting a mountain pack we're almost certainly getting our third caprine, so why not three macropods? It’d just be a shame for such a distinct and beautiful species to miss out because the broadly similar Bennett’s is more popular.
Personally, as much as I want it (the yellowfoot is significantly more common my local zoos than the Bennett’s due to their successful captive breeding program in South Australia) I don’t think a rock-wallaby is all that likely to come in a mountains pack regardless. I just feel like it’s an animal that’d slip under Frontier’s radar when they think about mountain animals given it’s not only Australian but from low arid ranges rather than stereotypical tall alpine mountains.
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Holy fk, it massive compared to its domestic counterpart. It also looks a lot cooler than boring barnyard version.