Winter DLC Speculation

Correct me if im wrong but arent Maras lagomorphs too? Those guys are pretty common.
Actually they are more closely related to the in-game Capybara (which is a rodent). Through convergent evolution, Maras have developed some physical similarities with lagomorphs. So it's understandable how they can be mistaken for one!

I agree with you that Maras would make for a fun inclusion in PZ though. They are pretty common in zoos globally, pretty unique in their physical appearances, and would help better represent an area of the world that right now is pretty under-represented in PZ (we really need some South American, Pampas-native species)
 
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Whether its domestic breeds
I mentioned petting zoos:
outside of petting zoos
But I don't count that. You wouldn't say sheep are common in zoos just because a lot of zoos keep lambs around for the kids. I also mentioned pika.
I want european rabbit:
I've seen people say this a lot and it's so weird to me. They're an invasive pest in NZ. Can't imagine why they're endangered when they're so hard to get rid of.
 
I mentioned petting zoos:

But I don't count that. You wouldn't say sheep are common in zoos just because a lot of zoos keep lambs around for the kids. I also mentioned pika.

I've seen people say this a lot and it's so weird to me. They're an invasive pest in NZ. Can't imagine why they're endangered when they're so hard to get rid of.
I actually would say that sheep are common in zoos though. Doesn't mean that I would personally put domestic sheep at the top of my personal wishlist, but I'd be lying if I said that they aren't common in zoos. If an animal is housed and exhibited in a zoo, it's a zoo animal.
 
I mentioned petting zoos:

But I don't count that. You wouldn't say sheep are common in zoos just because a lot of zoos keep lambs around for the kids. I also mentioned pika.

I've seen people say this a lot and it's so weird to me. They're an invasive pest in NZ. Can't imagine why they're endangered when they're so hard to get rid of.
Prob because NZ has no natural predators
 
Anecdotally, I think I'd put both rabbits and sheep on the less common end of the petting zoo spectrum. I don't think I've ever come across a petting zoo without goats and at least one out of donkeys or alpacas, but sheep are pretty hit or miss and rabbits are even less common than that - I know of only one zoo that keeps them permanently, and one that exhibits them seasonally in the spring before switching them out with turkeys in the fall.

Additionally, non-domestic lagomorphs are exceptionally uncommon in US zoos, at least: https://www.zoochat.com/community/threads/lagomorphs-in-north-american-zoos.472199/

Diverging from the original point a bit, I really want to see a goat, donkey, and maybe either an "exotic" cattle like zebu or Ankole-Watusi or a turkey, and that's about the extent of my interest in domestics. Oh, and the dromedary, of course the dromedary.
 
I've seen people say this a lot and it's so weird to me. They're an invasive pest in NZ. Can't imagine why they're endangered when they're so hard to get rid of.
Basicly we got a tasmanian devil situation on our hand.
In eurasia they are suffering from both a cancer and illness epidemic, greatly reducing their numbers.
They are still present in large numbers, but they count as endangerd as we allready know how devistating these epidemics are, especally after it wiped out allmost the entire lagomorph population on the iberian peninsula.
So far the virus hasnt spread consistently in the colder parts of europe, but slowly and especally thanks to climate change and the warmer winters its starting to spread further, potentially threatening the entire eurasian population if they dont grow resistent to it.

Meanwhile the invasive populations dont struggle with those illnesses and are free to overrun ecosystems as they please
 
I find it hard to imagine why anyone would want a hare at all. Lagomorphs aren't really represented in real zoos all that much as it is, outside of petting zoos and the occasional pika.
😅 I'd actually like to have one. But Rabbits would also be nice. Either European or domesticated (we still need way more Petting Zoo Animals)

I want european rabbit:
  • endangered
  • another animal from europe (and africa)
  • completly new species introduced to the game
  • anyone can pretend its domestic version and use it in petting zoo areas
  • absolutely cute and would be popular for average player base
  • present in zoos (saw wild version irl)
You could even do what I have seen the last Time I was in a Zoo. Put a Null Barrier somewhere and have them roaming the Park Grounds as wild Animals👍

I wouldn’t mind a mountain hare having seen them in four zoos in Germany, Switzerland and Austria.
This one would also be nice though 👍

I agree with you that Maras would make for a fun inclusion in PZ though. They are pretty common in zoos globally, pretty unique in their physical appearances, and would help better represent an area of the world that right now is pretty under-represented in PZ (we really need some South American, Pampas-native species)
They are also kept as a free roaming Animal (often?) in Zoos

I've seen people say this a lot and it's so weird to me. They're an invasive pest in NZ. Can't imagine why they're endangered when they're so hard to get rid of.
Another Man's Trash is another ones Treasure🙃
Wait, they are really endangered. How? Their Range nowadays is waaaay bigger than their natural Range and Australia seems to be absolutely overrun by them due to the great Idea of some Idiot who wanted to hunt them. Well, then I can proudly say I've encountered a endangered Species in the Wild multiple Times 😂

I actually would say that sheep are common in zoos though. Doesn't mean that I would personally put domestic sheep at the top of my personal wishlist, but I'd be lying if I said that they aren't common in zoos. If an animal is housed and exhibited in a zoo, it's a zoo animal.
Goats are definitely more important (probably the most common Petting Zoo Animal). Cameroon Sheep seem to be a very common Petting Zoo Sheep

Prob because NZ has no natural predators
It has Birds of Prey like the New Zealand Falcon though. But sadly this isn't really enough due to the Fact how quick Rabbits can reproduce

Diverging from the original point a bit, I really want to see a goat, donkey, and maybe either an "exotic" cattle like zebu or Ankole-Watusi
Those Animals would be absolutely great to have in the Game and after working in Real Life with a Donkey, I want them even more in the Game than before

In eurasia they are suffering from both a cancer and illness epidemic, greatly reducing their numbers.
😔 Didn't know about that. But if they should go extinct in Europe we always know where to get more😂
I think if we'll ever get them in the Game I'll start a proper Breeding Program for them for that Reason
 
Its quite ironic, the european rabbit originated from the iberian peninsula, southern france and the atlas mountains of north africa, only spreading into the rest of europe after the last ice age.
And now they are considerd endangerd in their native range while endangering other species everywhere else.
The devestating threat when a virus crosses an ocean isnt to be underrestimated.
 
European (Iberian) rabbit on display at Lisbon Zoo by the Iberian lynx enclosure

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I personally want more canines. Arctic fox to red fox was an entire cycle of dlcs and the 3rd of both fall dlcs.
I could honestly see frontier throwing an oddball such as a jackal or a coyote in the future.
I think we are probably gonna get a break from foxes for the time being, would be nice to have the bat eared but we got 3 foxes.
My ideal pack:
Coyote
Golden jackal
Iberian wolf
Mexican grey wolf
Red wolf
New Guinea singing dog
Domestic dog (golden retriever)
 
I agree with you that Maras would make for a fun inclusion in PZ though. They are pretty common in zoos globally, pretty unique in their physical appearances, and would help better represent an area of the world that right now is pretty under-represented in PZ (we really need some South American, Pampas-native species)
I also want to add that maras, together with the lamas, would make a fun mixed-species enclosure (my local zoo, the Wilhelma in Stuttgart has a combined habitat for them), and could really help represent the non-tropical part of SA.
 
No disrespect at all, but lagomorphs are pretty common in zoos. Whether its domestic breeds, hares, rabbits, or pikas most European and North American zoos have at least one.

They are far more common as a group, than say, Kiwis are in zoos globally. And I still would like to see a Kiwi as well.

Additionally, lagomorphs are incredibly unique both anatomically and taxonomically speaking. There is nothing in-game that is a close substitute for any of them and they are currently impossible for modders to even semi-accurately achieve.
I want european rabbit:
I'm so happy to see more users supporting the addition of rabbits, they are my most wanted addition in the game right now considering how many good reasons there are to have them (common in zoos, conservation-relevant, cute, overall a completely unique and interesting group). Same with waterfowl such as swans and ducks, they are unique and incredibly useful additions imo
 
Its quite ironic, the european rabbit originated from the iberian peninsula, southern france and the atlas mountains of north africa, only spreading into the rest of europe after the last ice age.
And now they are considerd endangerd in their native range while endangering other species everywhere else.
The devestating threat when a virus crosses an ocean isnt to be underrestimated.
Terrifyingly rabbit hermoraghic disease is now rampant in North Anerica as well and has mutated to affect all lagomorphs including hares and native cottontails who were previously thought to be imune. :'(
 
Terrifyingly rabbit hermoraghic disease is now rampant in North Anerica as well and has mutated to affect all lagomorphs including hares and native cottontails who were previously thought to be imune. :'(
Really hope lots of Zoos keep the native Species then
 
I know im late, but i think the eurasian lynx from the europe pack sould have been an Iberian lynx. Why i think this?
The iberian lynx is the most iconical from my beloved Spain, and such an incredible species, adding to the game a Spain representation. They represent the conservation efforts that zoos and protection groups made for this incredible animal. I know is a very low possibility, but i hope we will see this species one day, even if they are no possibilities. I hope so much to see the most endangered wild cat in the world, without count the amur leopards, coming to the game. Such a majestic species to have in count even with the eurasian lynx
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With just reading a bit of the last comments I disagree with Frontier is doing the easy way at the Moment. Except perhaps the Red Fox we did not get any easy animal with the last pack in my opinion and the fox came woth various color morphs.
 
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