Ah, you have that assigned - haven't found a good use for those within ED, they really need to open up the binding choices even more.
Perhaps my experience will help someone else anyway.
X55 Rhino Button Layout with Reference Card
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Ah, you have that assigned - haven't found a good use for those within ED, they really need to open up the binding choices even more.
Perhaps my experience will help someone else anyway.
Hi guys
I have some really silly questions about joysticks that I'm struggling to get my head around.
I tired the mouse keyboard combo but after 10 attempts didn't manage to get out the hanger, so I bought an X55. (very nice BTW).
My flying has improved and I can actually do 'stuff' now. The problem is the configured buttons are all over the place so I'm trying to customise the setup for me. Here begins the fun.
When I use the Saitek software to create a my control scheme, Elite doesn't detect it. It's active (green) in the Saitek task bar widget. But I'm not sure what I need to select in ED to say 'use the active Saitek profile'
question - what do I select in ED? If I select X55 I get the default controls not my custom setup. The Saitek software creates a .pr0 file but ED is looking for a .bindings file. I'm a hard time understanding how the 2 relate and why I'd use the Saitek software v using the controls mapping in ED. ED creates.
Any help appreciated. I just want start playing the game. I tried various mappings downloaded from here but I'm just not getting on with them.
I have some really silly questions about joysticks that I'm struggling to get my head around.
I tired the mouse keyboard combo but after 10 attempts didn't manage to get out the hanger, so I bought an X55. (very nice BTW).
My flying has improved and I can actually do 'stuff' now. The problem is the configured buttons are all over the place so I'm trying to customise the setup for me. Here begins the fun.
When I use the Saitek software to create a my control scheme, Elite doesn't detect it. It's active (green) in the Saitek task bar widget. But I'm not sure what I need to select in ED to say 'use the active Saitek profile'
question - what do I select in ED? If I select X55 I get the default controls not my custom setup. The Saitek software creates a .pr0 file but ED is looking for a .bindings file. I'm a hard time understanding how the 2 relate and why I'd use the Saitek software v using the controls mapping in ED. ED creates.
Any help appreciated. I just want start playing the game. I tried various mappings downloaded from here but I'm just not getting on with them.
I just got mine and didn't touch the Saitek profile at all, Elite just recognized the X-55 and there is a default assignment. I use the Options menu in Elite to do the assignments.
I suggest you reset the X-55 to defaults in Saitek profile editor, and let Elite configure the stick. Then tweak from there.
^^^what he said
You don't need to use the saitek profiler at all unless you want to program a button to do something not provided for in the game.
I started with the X55 option under controls in the game and then changed the buttons I wanted to and it automatically saves it as a custom profile. I did however use the Saitek software to assign f9 and f12 to the pinky switch on the throttle to pause and recenter my TrackIR, as I tend to only use track IR in combat and prefer the hat switch for the consoles during normal trade runs.
You don't need to use the saitek profiler at all unless you want to program a button to do something not provided for in the game.
I started with the X55 option under controls in the game and then changed the buttons I wanted to and it automatically saves it as a custom profile. I did however use the Saitek software to assign f9 and f12 to the pinky switch on the throttle to pause and recenter my TrackIR, as I tend to only use track IR in combat and prefer the hat switch for the consoles during normal trade runs.
Cheers Scrogg. that was the clarity I was looking for. It all makes sense now.
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Cheers Andargor too
I have not tried the Saitek profiler yet. But my assumption was that the profiler turns button buses into key presses. So in Elite if you say you have a generic joystick, then the profiler should work. It will detect the Rhino joystick movements and will 'hear' Rhino button presses as keyboard clicks.
Just go 18 pages back and start reading.
There are sample profiles offered for download and a neat utility that will produce a printable template for you based on the settings you have in Elite Dangerous.
Hey everyone, this is the button mapping I've set up in Elite Dangerous. If anyone would like to try it, enjoy:
Original Image: http://i.imgur.com/o4E9Wxd.jpg
Dear lord! Now thats a set up! I really want one of these but a few reviews have been poor and one said you need big hands?
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Docking Request Macro
I've been fiddling with the software that comes with this stick to see whether I can use it to assign some ED 'macros' to buttons and switches. I offer here a prototype 'Docking Request' HUD profile, containing a macro bound to the SW6 switch.
To make it work with your Rhino there are few constraints.
At the link, there is a copy of the X-55 HUD profile, ED custom.binds file that includes the key bindings so the HUD macro works, and an HTML file that shows the other bindings used by the stick/throttle. All 3 files are also in a zip file if you prefer to download that.
Hope some people find it useful, I'd welcome feedback. Currently the profile has a 0.2 second delay between key presses so you can see it working.
To use it, you must have the station set as your target. Then hold down the SW6 switch until the docking request is sent. Releasing the switch then resets the target panel back to the Nvigation tab, and closes the tab.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B_b1val4v4WBckJTWnRPVFRKY0U&usp=sharing
(I think you may need a google account to use that link).
I've been fiddling with the software that comes with this stick to see whether I can use it to assign some ED 'macros' to buttons and switches. I offer here a prototype 'Docking Request' HUD profile, containing a macro bound to the SW6 switch.
To make it work with your Rhino there are few constraints.
- It sends key presses to the game to open the targets panel, tab to Contacts, then issue the docking request
- It assumes that when you open the targets panel, that the Navigation tab is active
- When the macro ends, it makes the Navigation tab active again (so it will work the next time you use it)
- It 'toggles'. If you already have permission to dock, it cancels the request.
- The keys used in the macro must be bound in your ED custom.binds file. I have used the default Keyboard UI controls Q,W,E,A,S,D,<space> that display in the game help screens.
- To work properly, you need to have the X-55 'HUD' software installed and running, with the profile loaded
At the link, there is a copy of the X-55 HUD profile, ED custom.binds file that includes the key bindings so the HUD macro works, and an HTML file that shows the other bindings used by the stick/throttle. All 3 files are also in a zip file if you prefer to download that.
Hope some people find it useful, I'd welcome feedback. Currently the profile has a 0.2 second delay between key presses so you can see it working.
To use it, you must have the station set as your target. Then hold down the SW6 switch until the docking request is sent. Releasing the switch then resets the target panel back to the Nvigation tab, and closes the tab.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B_b1val4v4WBckJTWnRPVFRKY0U&usp=sharing
(I think you may need a google account to use that link).
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A quick update: there were some changes to the control names in gamma which caused the reference sheet generator to miss them, but they should all be fixed now. I've also added in support for some of the radials on the throttle which I'd previously missed.
At this stage I believe that everything is there, but if you do see anything missing when you generate your reference sheet please let me know.
(One thing which doesn't show up is the landing overrides for thrust; they tended to clog up the page too much. If anyone desperately wants them let me know and I'll see if I can add it in as another sheet or similar).
At this stage I believe that everything is there, but if you do see anything missing when you generate your reference sheet please let me know.
(One thing which doesn't show up is the landing overrides for thrust; they tended to clog up the page too much. If anyone desperately wants them let me know and I'll see if I can add it in as another sheet or similar).
Thanks! Here's my setup (also attached: View attachment 2541). I think RTY3 and 4 are inversed, as mentioned in my message.
A few notes on my setup that doesn't show up (not jgm's fault):
- The mouse nipple is useless, however H4 (next to it) does a decent job if you really need a mouse cursor. So I used Saitek's tools to set that up.
- Galaxy map navigation was vastly improved for me in the Oculus using the POV hat and the witch hat on the joystick (so I have 6DOF with these two hats)
- The rotary dials set for thrust are really useful in a fight to randomly assign drift to the craft (and hence increase difficulty to get hit). Also can be used for fine tuning positioning. They have about 33% deadzone and a "stop" in the center. Unfortunately the throttle does not... (see below)
- My throttle is set as continuous (push forward, pull reverse) with about 25% deadzone. This is really useful for flipping around using FAoff/reverse in a fight, but is tricky for landing (thinking of setting some landing overrides)
- I have redundant controls for some stuff depending on what I am doing, and just because I can
- I have the bottom push button on the throttle (G3) set for Ventrilo
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I've revised my bindings a bit based on more experience with the game, as well as new features introduced. I've also built an EDTracker so the various ways of looking around are no longer that important to me in the X55 bindings, but even without EDTracker I found that I was never using the POV hat to look around, but only the mouse nipple. So I've changed the POV hat to be used for targeting, and moved the subsystem targeting to the lower throttle hat. (I considered using it for lateral thrusters, but it becomes problematic in a dogfight if you want to apply thrusters and shoot at the same time, hence lateral thrusters remain on the throttle hat.)
Anyhow, as before, the mouse nipple on the throttle needs to be configured to a mouse in order to be used for analogue headlook, and the slide switch on the throttle should be bound to caps lock held down when enabled, and caps lock release when sliding back. This way it can be used to toggle throttle reverse (the capslock key was chosen because it does not spam into any text boxes or trigger shortcuts, but it does toggle caps). Both bindings can be ignored without affecting other usage, e.g., EDTracker users may simply disable mouselook an ignore the mouse nipple on the throttle.
Bindings:
• X55 with EDTracker
• X55 standalone
• Saitek profile
(large chart here)
Anyhow, as before, the mouse nipple on the throttle needs to be configured to a mouse in order to be used for analogue headlook, and the slide switch on the throttle should be bound to caps lock held down when enabled, and caps lock release when sliding back. This way it can be used to toggle throttle reverse (the capslock key was chosen because it does not spam into any text boxes or trigger shortcuts, but it does toggle caps). Both bindings can be ignored without affecting other usage, e.g., EDTracker users may simply disable mouselook an ignore the mouse nipple on the throttle.
Bindings:
• X55 with EDTracker
• X55 standalone
• Saitek profile
(large chart here)
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Guys, how do you generate charts like this? Or it's just scrupulous work in photoshop?
Guys, how do you generate charts like this? Or it's just scrupulous work in photoshop?
Dunno, but the one above your post is automatically generated at http://www.mcdee.net/elite/
I'm interested in the one in my post. I find it more intuitive to glance at.