The Quest To Find Raxxla

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

Well...
i aborted the first attempt after realizing it will need a bit over 3 years to complete.
So i went and cleaned the text so it has no duplicates this alone was 3 hour computing.
That means no counting for now, but when all systems mentioned have been filtered i can go to the original texts and count them.
Only problem right now: Even whit the reduced text my PC has to check 135k Lines against 75 million known Systems. (approx: 43 Days computing)
Also i am not quite Sure if the reduced text has still everything in it. It seems a bit small. It got from 4.5 million lines down to 135k lines.
Sure there have been a lot of Duplicate Lines (From QuotesCMDR and all the CMDR Names) but it is a bit strange that it got this small (383130kb to 13986kb)
I try to get my Raspberry running and than wait maybe i will hock a bell to it, or make it bark when done.

@CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian if this is Data mining go ahead and shutdown EDSM have fun. Just because you call it Data mining does not make it data mining. And just because you found a lone Moderator that agrees whit you still does not make it data mining. Also i do not care if this will get any useful result, only thing that matter is to get any result.

Edit: first match 39 Lambda Orionis which is strange and makes me more doubtful about completeness, cause it should bee 4 Sextantis

If it is public data, I have no problems. Here's where you are running into problems: I know EDSM, in particular, hides certain systems as Polaris is findable on EDDB but EDSM it is hidden (via the normal web interface for each). I believe they hide unknown permits and anything within region locks. If you are only dealing in public scan data (stuff any CMDR would be able to access in-game) it is alright. The gray area is the fact that in-game until we get those region locks to fall you may be dabbling in non-public information. I just think caution is advisable here given public vs non-public data. Heck, with EDDiscovery you can download public scan data for all discovered systems. This wasn't for any reason other than use only what you can access on EDSM website or the API without requesting hidden data entries. I hold nothing against you personally.

 

[HunterwithGreenScales]

But isnt that too far out of our system ie not in the system map (SOL)?

O7

Unrelated question: How do you take/get that kind of bar/banner depicting your carrier like that. I wanna make one.

 

[Pyroboros]

I’m getting old and forgetful...Remind me again what the logic is behind this?
Nobody in this thread has (demonstrably) found Raxxla, so we haven’t got the answer.
But in total the amount of explored systems is still, I believe, a tiny fraction of the in-game total.
And since we don’t know what it is......searching based on an unsubstantiated rumour that MB said the system had been entered but it wasnt found is a bit like a blindfolded bull in a china shop

I shall finish my Gravity Wave theory-based search, but then one of my accounts will return to the bubble. I have had another idea (actually two, I’m spoilt for choice! ), but got a load of diy & gardening to do.

But the GW hypothesis testing is proving slow. Both accounts still have quite a lot of kylies to fly, and almost every system is proving to be undiscovered, and quite a few AW or WW to map (I’m not bothering with terraformables)!

The a few pages ago. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-10032351
But rather to brute force whit all known Systems, brute force whit only the ones from this tread may make it doable in the lifetime of our universe

 

[Darrack]

Unrelated question: How do you take/get that kind of bar depicting your carrier like that. I wanna make one.

Nothing magical im afraid, Photo (FC) is a normal screen shot reduced in size then i just used a Word document to paste together items, Group and save as picture.
Then lobbed it onto Imgur.

O7

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

The a few pages ago. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-10032351
But rather to brute force whit all known Systems, brute force whit only the ones from this tread may make it doable in the lifetime of our universe

May I ask why we are trying to brute force this? We have established the real Soontill must be the Guardian homeworld due to presence of Technetium and how Technetium is ultimately forged via S-process nucleosynthesis. Soontill 1 where the secret base was supposedly located is utterly unlandable by any species and the surface is hotter than most stars. We have had discussions on types of stars inhabited by Guardians and what they would have looked like at varying points in stellar evolution. Why is this being made unnecessarily complicated? We know exactly what we are looking for and the varying forms it could take. Thargoids appear to actually be natives to Witchspace so why are we trying to make them something they are not? Do you enjoy suffering? This doesn't need to be hard.

 

[Edelgard von Rhein]

Completed my run of the Yggdrasil course (undertaken in a Cobra MkIII):
start: Jotunheim, Big Harry's Monkey Hangout
Vanir, McClintock Dock
Niflheimri, Roentgen Settlement
Nidanga, Bodgett Colony
Muspelheim
Midgard, Rontgen Port
Hel, Jones Orbital
Asgaa, Wheeler Horizons
Alfheim, Panshin Enterprise
Bifrost, Godwin Hangar
I docked at all the above stations.
Then I flew to Delphi and docked at Donar's Oak.
Within Delphi I flew to the Thargoid Structure and activated the Thargoid Map using the Thargoid Probe and one of the Thargoid Sensors I had carried throughout and a locally-acquired Thargoid Link.
This gave me two Unknown messages, both with the same text, saying that they cannot be resolved. I cannot hear anything when played but so far I only tried while at the Structure in my SRV.
I have since returned to The Oracle.
I have never managed to use a Thargoid Link properly and am not sure how to use the Unknown messages.
I am thinking about travelling to Polaris or Witch's Reach but I suspect this is the normal behaviour of a Thargoid Structure when the Map is activated. I have kept the Sensors, Probe and Link if anyone else would like to attempt this.

It was good fun, though I would have finished next to bottom from looking at the final leaderboard of the race. I had to jump quickly as having cargo meant I often had a pirate appear and I also got hyperdicted on what should have been my jump into Delphi after getting a neutron boost from the secondary star at 98 K Tauri, so I lost the boost and had to jump back normally (I had prepared for the eventuality by packing a shutdown field neutraliser and a heat sink and my ship can also manage 625 m/s on boost).

If the systems have to be visited in a specific order, this will be trickier. I might have to have another look at a picture of Michael Brookes' tattoo and see if I can work it out but for today I am too tired.

 

[Ozric]

If it is public data, I have no problems. Here's where you are running into problems: I know EDSM, in particular, hides certain systems as Polaris is findable on EDDB but EDSM it is hidden (via the normal web interface for each). I believe they hide unknown permits and anything within region locks. If you are only dealing in public scan data (stuff any CMDR would be able to access in-game) it is alright. The gray area is the fact that in-game until we get those region locks to fall you may be dabbling in non-public information. I just think caution is advisable here given public vs non-public data. Heck, with EDDiscovery you can download public scan data for all discovered systems. This wasn't for any reason other than use only what you can access on EDSM website or the API without requesting hidden data entries. I hold nothing against you personally.

You contradict yourself.
It is also not up to you to decide what other people can and can't do because of what you think may or may not be something.


So to everyone, let's stop discussing each other and their perceived intentions, and get back to the topic at hand.

 

[Ozric]

Completed my run of the Yggdrasil course (undertaken in a Cobra MkIII):
start: Jotunheim, Big Harry's Monkey Hangout
Vanir, McClintock Dock
Niflheimri, Roentgen Settlement
Nidanga, Bodgett Colony
Muspelheim
Midgard, Rontgen Port
Hel, Jones Orbital
Asgaa, Wheeler Horizons
Alfheim, Panshin Enterprise
Bifrost, Godwin Hangar
I docked at all the above stations.
Then I flew to Delphi and docked at Donar's Oak.
Within Delphi I flew to the Thargoid Structure and activated the Thargoid Map using the Thargoid Probe and one of the Thargoid Sensors I had carried throughout and a locally-acquired Thargoid Link.
This gave me two Unknown messages, both with the same text, saying that they cannot be resolved. I cannot hear anything when played but so far I only tried while at the Structure in my SRV.
I have since returned to The Oracle.
I have never managed to use a Thargoid Link properly and am not sure how to use the Unknown messages.
I am thinking about travelling to Polaris or Witch's Reach but I suspect this is the normal behaviour of a Thargoid Structure when the Map is activated. I have kept the Sensors, Probe and Link if anyone else would like to attempt this.

It was good fun, though I would have finished next to bottom from looking at the final leaderboard of the race. I had to jump quickly as having cargo meant I often had a pirate appear and I also got hyperdicted on what should have been my jump into Delphi after getting a neutron boost from the secondary star at 98 K Tauri, so I lost the boost and had to jump back normally (I had prepared for the eventuality by packing a shutdown field neutraliser and a heat sink and my ship can also manage 625 m/s on boost).

If the systems have to be visited in a specific order, this will be trickier. I might have to have another look at a picture of Michael Brookes' tattoo and see if I can work it out but for today I am too tired.

I had to go back and find the picture, but I hope you performed your blot to Odin

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

You contradict yourself.
It is also not up to you to decide what other people can and can't do because of what you think may or may not be something.


So to everyone, let's stop discussing each other and their perceived intentions, and get back to the topic at hand.

I am not contradicting myself. Further, I only pull public scan records via EDDiscovery. The data downloaded by EDDiscovery is submitted by CMDRs to Universal Cartographics. Anything searchable on EDSM's website is fair game. All my research is based purely on in-game lore and official sources such as official novels, game manuals, and occasionally supplemented with Holdstock stuff where books are believed to be intentionally highlighting ideas that were later put into Elite Dangerous. But everything first has to be in Elite Dangerous before I go looking to understand what we are supposed to pick up on from various events/places.

 

[Ozric]

I am not contradicting myself. Despite knowing precisely how to craft requests for non-public data I have never utilized it as a method in searching for Raxxla. Further, I only pull public scan records via EDDiscovery. The data downloaded by EDDiscovery is submitted by CMDRs to Universal Cartographics. It by definition doesn't include regions which are presently locked to players. Anything searchable on EDSM's website is fair game. Hidden systems are explicitly excluded because no player has access to areas that are region-locked. All my research is based purely on in-game lore and official sources such as official novels, game manuals, and occassionally supplemented with Holdstock stuff where books are believed to be intentionally highlighting ideas that were later put into Elite Dangerous. But everything first has to be in Elite Dangerous before I go looking to understand what we are supposed to pick up on from various events/places.

The information that is on 3rd party websites and applications can only have got there from in game sources. They all have the same available data.

I would advise against saying you know how to search game files for non-public data again.

Now back to the topic at hand please.

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

The information that is on 3rd party websites and applications can only have got there from in game sources. They all have the same available data.

I would advise against saying you know how to search game files for non-public data again.

Now back to the topic at hand please.

Gladly. Though, people really need to understand there are no shortcuts that would actually even help. You want to get ahead in the search, you had better be prepared to but in the investigative work.

The more salient point is the game's puzzle and mysteries are structured such that without going to look yourself you won't recognize what is important from not. It is precisely why it is a fool's errand. We have 3 major naming convention schemes between Federation (mostly astronomical), Imperial (mythical), Alliance/Old Worlds/GalCop which utilized heavily proper names for planets, stations or settlements, and a mix of procedurally generated names. If you don't understand which cultural group is referring to a place and the necessary context you cannot even locate most historical locations in the Bubble. Outside of that, there is the complication small details help isolate things from science perspective (which systems would support specific forms of life) and which resources are available where and why. The lore is structured in a way such that without going to a place and understanding its history and how it developed you will be lost.

This is not even factoring in political upheaval which buried some places in multiple layers of references from different groups as the boundaries of the superpowers have changed multiple times (especially once you factor BGS in on top of this). Searching for Raxxla requires not just understanding science and stellar development (past, present, and future), human history and cultures, Thargoid history and culture, and Guardian history and culture. This is why I was making the point that searching EDSM is only of very limited usage unless you have much more additional context. Details matter especially when parts of the past are obscured through changing references and details that may point an investigation in a different direction entirely.

 

[John Stoutbeard]

This is why I was making the point that searching EDSM is only of very limited usage unless you have much more additional context.

That makes perfect sense for you. But keep in mind, we're all in a different state of mindset here.
Personally I refrain from telling people "what not to do". Instead I try look for suggestions on how they can improve their work.
Quite often it's a bit of work to respond in such manner, hence why I stay silent and just give people a +1 because they are trying to work through it on their own.
It's a passion of their, let's respect that. And the people here.

This is just a friendly reminder to us all really. It's easy to get upset over others ideas. Don't.
Keep calm, find a way add to their ideas instead of tearing it down. Contribute, do not deconstruct.

Phew. And being able to do that takes quite an effort. I know. Feelings, passion about subjects etc. I get it
PS, some of humans strongest emotions are triggered when we see something we think is WRONG. This is why Wiki works so well and have such a success.
It's quite human to react on 'wrong info'.

Stay strong folks. o7

 

[Emperor]

"Searching for Raxxla requires not just understanding science and stellar development (past, present, and future), human history and cultures, Thargoid history and culture, and Guardian history and culture. "

I believe this is purely your view, but its only as valid as any other of the other thousands of views/theories/guesses/musings here unless you've actually found Raxxla?

Otherwise it is pure conjecture....

Good luck with your search but please be polite to others with just as valid wafflings as your own

 

[John Stoutbeard]

Yesterday, I had planned to finished my AX Corvette. I was in the neighborhood of Pranav Antal PP space.
I ended up with another Yak-Shaving for Raxxla because of that relation.

The Toast. Re Jewel being Earth (accord Pranav Antal, his speech - them being all Utopia focused etc).
Again thinking about "from where would Sol appear as a Jewel, on the brow of Cassiopeia (mother of Andromeda)?"
Looking around, Shinrarta Dezra is having a splendid view like that. One candidate. Probably 500 or more left to go.
How can I deduct "whisperer & siren". I decided to use Thetis Megaship for that.

The last phrase is still pulling my leg. Parents, Grief, Lover & Vagabonds .. well it could be some of the megaship again. Brain meltdown in-flight.
I end up without no pattern that makes any sense. No specific direction either.

I did fly the route (SD, Sol, Thetis), re-inspecting planets, the ships logs, the systems along the triangular paths between the systems.
No sightings, no bugs, lot's of boring USSs. I did even check an Asteroid belt with 170+ times the mass of the Moon (gawd; it MUST be something there I told my self)
... well it was a nice journey. But that's all.

Tonight I SHALL finish my AX build!

 

[Macros Black]

Some good advice and a friendly warning:

Having a chat with https://chat.openai.com/chat tonight:

Me:
must I keep an open mind to be able to find raxxla?

ChatGPT:

It is not clear if keeping an open mind is necessary in order to find RAXXLA in the game Elite Dangerous, as RAXXLA is a fictional location whose existence has not been definitively proven within the game's universe. Some players believe that RAXXLA is a hidden location within the game that can be discovered by solving puzzles or uncovering clues, while others consider it to be a mythical or legendary location that may never be found.

If you are interested in trying to find RAXXLA within the game, it may be helpful to approach your search with a sense of curiosity and a willingness to explore and try different strategies. It may also be helpful to keep an open mind and consider different theories or ideas about the location of RAXXLA, even if they seem unlikely or unconventional.

However, it is important to keep in mind that RAXXLA is a fictional location and its existence has not been confirmed by the developers of Elite Dangerous. As such, you should not get too caught up in your search for RAXXLA and should be prepared for the possibility that it may never be found.

Ultimately, the most important thing is to have fun while playing the game and to enjoy the experience of exploring the game's universe.

 

[John Stoutbeard]

It's been a long time since I've been in the USSs for these (Encoded / Degraded), just happened to see the F-63 Condor again.

In case some of the new-comers may not have gazed upon the F-63 Condor wrecks with these strange hints / eggs.
I brought the underside reg number as well.
5 imgurs in a album. Nothing on the Condors have changed from what I can see.

The reg numbers on the Condors are:
1LAR1A-X
3-R1K-A 4821

https://imgur.com/a/rUU4P9L

Source: https://imgur.com/a/rUU4P9L

 

[John Stoutbeard]

approach your search with a sense of curiosity and a willingness to explore and try different strategies

As such, you should not get too caught up in your search for RAXXLA and should be prepared for the possibility that it may never be found.

Ultimately, the most important thing is to have fun while playing the game and to enjoy the experience of exploring the game's universe.

Absolutely brilliant bot

 

[Macros Black]

It's been a long time since I've been in the USSs for these (Encoded / Degraded), just happened to see the F-63 Condor again.

In case some of the new-comers may not have gazed upon the F-63 Condor wrecks with these strange hints / eggs.
I brought the underside reg number as well.
5 imgurs in a album. Nothing on the Condors have changed from what I can see.

The reg numbers on the Condors are:
1LAR1A-X
3-R1K-A 4821

https://imgur.com/a/rUU4P9L

Source: https://imgur.com/a/rUU4P9L

If I squint my eyes, I see Raxxla in the text...

 

[John Stoutbeard]

My goodness. I bite ...

Spoiler: Chat

Me: In the computer-game Elite Dangerous the developers have implemented and hidden a place called Raxxla. They hinted about it in something called the Codex in the game. How would you go about finding this place called Raxxla?

Elite Dangerous is an open-world space simulation game that allows players to explore a vast universe and interact with other players and computer-controlled characters. The game is set in a fictional version of our own galaxy, and players are free to travel between different star systems and planets to trade, explore, and engage in various activities.
The concept of Raxxla is a mysterious place that is mentioned in the Codex, a compendium of information that is included in the game. According to the Codex, Raxxla is said to be a hidden place that is located somewhere within the game's universe, but its exact location is unknown. Many players have speculated about the existence of Raxxla and have tried to find clues and hints that might lead them to this mysterious location.
To try to find Raxxla, you could start by exploring the game's universe and looking for any clues or hints that might be related to the location. You could also try asking other players if they have any information about Raxxla or if they have any theories about its location. Additionally, you could try to look for any information about Raxxla on the internet, such as on forums or online communities for Elite Dangerous players. It's worth noting, however, that finding Raxxla may be difficult, as it is a hidden place that has not been officially confirmed by the game's developers.

Me: It has been officially confirmed that the place exists in game, however they have not said if people can access it. Is this some information you are able to look into?

I'm sorry, but I don't have any information about the current status of Raxxla in Elite Dangerous beyond what was publicly available at the time my knowledge was last updated. As a language model, I don't have the ability to browse the internet or access new information, so I can only provide information based on what I was trained on.
It's worth noting that Raxxla is a mysterious place in the game that has not been officially confirmed by the developers, and the extent to which it exists within the game world is not clear. Some players believe that Raxxla is a real location that can be accessed in the game, while others believe that it is a legend or a myth. If you are interested in learning more about Raxxla in Elite Dangerous, you may want to try asking other players or looking for information on forums or online communities dedicated to the game. However, it's important to keep in mind that finding definitive information about Raxxla may be difficult, as it is a hidden and mysterious place that has not been officially confirmed by the game's developers.

Nope, bot's are still just things they have been trained to do. Same language & answers coming through for the same things.
Still nice though. Fun!

oh dear, it's trolling me with long answers ...

 

[Louis Calvert]

Only problem right now: Even whit the reduced text my PC has to check 135k Lines against 75 million known Systems. (approx: 43 Days computing)
Also i am not quite Sure if the reduced text has still everything in it. It seems a bit small. It got from 4.5 million lines down to 135k lines.
Sure there have been a lot of Duplicate Lines (From QuotesCMDR and all the CMDR Names) but it is a bit strange that it got this small (383130kb to 13986kb)
I try to get my Raspberry running and than wait maybe i will hock a bell to it, or make it bark when done.


Edit: first match 39 Lambda Orionis which is strange and makes me more doubtful about completeness, cause it should bee 4 Sextantis

Brutal! Is there a way to share some runtime, like with citizens science projects? I'm very happy to help by lending computer time if that's in any way possible?

I'm excited to see the list, I wonder how long it's going to be?