I was surprised that they don't do this already to encourage knocking out its systems so it's killable in a week.
Thargoid invasion - Next target systems?
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It seems a bit premature to assume that Oya can be defeated in a single week even under all-out attack, though. People are out of position and Thursday morning is always the quietest time of the week, but the current rate is not suggesting its defeat this time. Knocking a bunch of hearts off it to make a future attack easier, sure, might be worthwhile.
(And of course the Pilots Federation notice points towards not attacking Oya this week, though it's quite possible that it's an automated message that hasn't been edited to cover the latest adjustments)
The outer ones stop Spire attacks being used to soften any of the inner ones (or retake further Control systems), making it virtually impossible even if Alert repelling at Oya was a priority to get any of the nearer ones, and ensuring a comfy double-figure Control count the next week.
In theory they also give Oya a whole bunch of anchor points to launch further Alerts from without being constrained by the sparseness of systems nearer to Oya ... but since Alerts no longer need to be launched from Control systems and can disregard the previously-established cooldown periods, that doesn't really matter.
That would be nice. On my first trip into Oya now, the core came up twice while I was flying into the cloud (and awarded £4k bonds for doing nothing) but got stuck in the down position as soon as I got to it. So back to the carrier I go to repair and reload the caustic sinks to get through the cloud again. Annoying.
Frankly, it's one week it, or given the alerts include such gems as WO-A b3, projected to be 100,000 samples By Itself going by PDES' alert samples calculator, plus the inherent, USS are less reliable than 'drop out anywhere and the thargoid comes to you', going backwards even if we went all-in on blocking.
I'd rather hope, try, and hit it as hard as we can, than roll over and just take the critical burnout that will result from this, especially when we were over 70k through preparing the final systems.
Oh, absolutely - an all-out attack is the only plausible option this week.
When did you sell the samples?
About 5 minutes before I posted. "timestamp":"2024-04-04T10:27:22Z"
Cover it with honey. Then send colony after colony of space ants. We know what happens next.I would so much love to hit the core with modshards now
.. couldnt we cover them with some spire coating also? as an emergency measure?
The impression here is that it is designed specifically to follow this:
We have unprecedented Alerts, no access via peripheral progress, a Titan which can be destroyed with around four days if everyone present at T. Taranis were to attend, and the first and only time in the history of the war that a rule-change has actually been announced is telling us that destroying the Titan will stop the Alerts. Piece it all together if you will, but do so while outfitting your Nanite torpedos and AX missiles!
If it is actually this, and rather than simply pausing the war the Frontier solution is instead to reoccupy systems we have just now cleared and saturate the periphery so they cannot be cleared again soon, I expect almost nobody will continue at all. I know at least that V is displeased regarding Cephei Sector WO-A b3, for which we gathered 9400 with the understanding that our time buys that specific system four weeks of protection, not zero weeks.
Indeed; check again after around 11:20! Very loosely, actions seem to be considered to fall within one-hour segments which align on the hour itself, and the results seem to appear after approximately 20 minutes. I have seen this vary however, and others may know some more closely-observed timings than mine.
We have unprecedented Alerts, no access via peripheral progress, a Titan which can be destroyed with around four days if everyone present at T. Taranis were to attend, and the first and only time in the history of the war that a rule-change has actually been announced is telling us that destroying the Titan will stop the Alerts. Piece it all together if you will, but do so while outfitting your Nanite torpedos and AX missiles!
If it is actually this, and rather than simply pausing the war the Frontier solution is instead to reoccupy systems we have just now cleared and saturate the periphery so they cannot be cleared again soon, I expect almost nobody will continue at all. I know at least that V is displeased regarding Cephei Sector WO-A b3, for which we gathered 9400 with the understanding that our time buys that specific system four weeks of protection, not zero weeks.
Indeed; check again after around 11:20! Very loosely, actions seem to be considered to fall within one-hour segments which align on the hour itself, and the results seem to appear after approximately 20 minutes. I have seen this vary however, and others may know some more closely-observed timings than mine.
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It will be interesting to see if...
Is accurate, have fun!
It is accurate but incomplete; the truth more fully is that either a Titan will need to be much more vulnerable for the attacks of one Commander to be effective, or we just need many more Commanders for their combined attacks to reach the same effect!
I'll watch with interest.
That's certainly consistent and I'd be more inclined to believe it intentional on Frontier's part if the in-game message weren't telling CMDRs to do the least useful possible action this week of continuing to attack Oya's remaining Controls.
Not sure what's more displeasing, FD wanting to undo WO-A b3 or me having to change a database schema because of this
Will do
Got into a working instance just as @Grimscrub departed. I was able to get about 940k each heart exposure. Fingers crossed other CMDRs can get some good results and not see too many broken instances (remember, only 1 CMDR at a time with the nanites to minimise breakage)
Are we sure it doesn’t for everything, or just the Titan ‘emergency attack’(as I’m going to refer to it until a different/better term emerges)?
And I am also not seeing any of the populated systems which are in recovery/cooldown period being affected by this attack either. Other than Tougeir and Muchihiks, everything else is an unpopulated target.
The point about the periphery does stand, though.
| 0.000712 | Start Test |
| 111 | Samples |
| 0.395975 | End Test |
| 0.39526 | Progress |
| 0.60474 | Remaining |
| 170 | Samples needed |
Which would suggest total of 281 samples. That system was
Because it's so unprecedented in multiple aspects - ignoring cooldowns, ignoring attack distance, ignoring the requirement for Alerts to be placed by Controls / limited to one per placing system, ignoring normal budget limits, etc. - then there doesn't seem any grounds to assume that Oya can't do it again next week too, or at least, on any other occasion where its Control count gets "too low".
If it wasn't a simple hand-edit of system states to ensure a suitable "speed of plot", then the only explanation I can find for why the other five didn't do anything special, and nor did Oya or Leigong or Taranis in their previous weeks under heavy attack is that this is a new ability gained in U18 to make extra anomalous attacks in any week a fully active Spire [1] is recaptured.
It's also the case that all those uninhabited Alerts outside the 20LY line can - if this week's attack fails - likely be taken out at Control in their first week before they can actually do anything, so it doesn't necessarily help that much to extend the perimeter even if Oya reverts to conventional targeting hereafter.
[1] i.e. one which has never previously been captured, or Leigong would have got one of these too, though too late to do it any good.
Yes - it does appear that whatever it is did go for systems in state None (with invisible cooldowns) rather than those in actual Recovery.
I was hoping that these mass alerts would signify the Thargoids deploying the human captives as war effort (with something nasty coming near the weekend), but only two of all alerts were on populated systems, so there goes my dream.
Also, tried a run solo, and the Thargoids are way more aggressive than usual. I got clocked while running at less than 5% at about 6 km (it's usually closer to 5 km), and the Titan itself is more trigger happy (specially with the caustic torpedoes). I tried 3 runs and botched the third (the first vent I targeted refused to blue up all 3 runs), totaling less than 1.5m (700k on the first two). I can usually get 2m on one run, so I'm dropping out of this one. Goids can have this week, that's okay.
Also, tried a run solo, and the Thargoids are way more aggressive than usual. I got clocked while running at less than 5% at about 6 km (it's usually closer to 5 km), and the Titan itself is more trigger happy (specially with the caustic torpedoes). I tried 3 runs and botched the third (the first vent I targeted refused to blue up all 3 runs), totaling less than 1.5m (700k on the first two). I can usually get 2m on one run, so I'm dropping out of this one. Goids can have this week, that's okay.