Planet Zoo 2 Speculation and ideas

[PlanetSoyJak]

I would say the first DLC could be:
Planet Zoo 2: Amazon animal pack:
Manatee/Jaguar [Headliner]
Jaguar/Manatee
Geoffrey's spider monkey
Spectacled Caiman
Bush Dog
Roseate spoonbill
Harpy Eagle [A]
Green Anaconda [E]

 

[NachoB]

I would say the first DLC could be:
Planet Zoo 2: Amazon animal pack:
Manatee/Jaguar [Headliner]
Jaguar/Manatee
Geoffrey's spider monkey
Spectacled Caiman
Bush Dog
Roseate spoonbill
Harpy Eagle [A]
Green Anaconda [E]

Geoffeoy's spider monkey don't live in the Amazon though.

Spectacled caiman is not something i would pay twice for. Is one of those DLC animals that i want in the base game roster.

I would add the Giant otter though... And no manatee. I don't need an amazonian manatee, i want the west Indian manatee first... Arapaima on the other hand...

 

[PnGLINNyo]

I would say the first DLC could be:
Planet Zoo 2: Amazon animal pack:
Manatee/Jaguar [Headliner]
Jaguar/Manatee
Geoffrey's spider monkey
Spectacled Caiman
Bush Dog
Roseate spoonbill
Harpy Eagle [A]
Green Anaconda [E]

Lemme try with that title;

Jaguar [Headliner]
Tufted Capuchin
Giant Anteater
Bush Dog
Red-rumped Agouti
Roseate Spoonbill [A]
Linnaeus Two-toed Sloth[WE]
Green Anaconda [E]

 

[Fini]

I hope they keep the Barnyard Animal Pack setup for the sequel. For me, it was the perfect mix of more animals and something for us builders to play with.

Based on that + the fact that there "have to" be fully aquatic and flying birds, in my opinion the setup should look something like this. (btw, I hope they do away with the exhibit system completely for the sequel and just give us animated animaltronics for the very tiny animals that we can place freely)

1. Cat/Dog/Bear (Carnivore)
2. Ungulate [1]
3. Ungulate [2]
4. Reptile
5. Rodent/etc
6. Fish/etc
7. Bird
And 60-80 scenery items (I also think that's enough, many of the pieces we got aren't really usable, and considering that we might also get scaling in PZ2, it's unnecessary to get more than that.)

I just hope that they put a little more effort into it and put together a really diverse pack.

 

[NachoB]

Something like that format would be nice but i don't think it should be so strict that don't get out of it. I don't mind a pack with more than 1 carnivores or 2 ungulates and not every pack can/should have a rodent or habitat reptiles but i do hope all packs have at least one bird lol

But i think Big scenery packs will still be pretty much a thing. Is what half the fan base likes to play with and gives lots of options for building. I do hope they do add at least one more habitat animal to the mix. Four is too few

 

[Marvinb]

Id be very dissapointed if a PZ2 only did barnyard style packs. Yes it did include some piece so the builders dont have to go a full year without getting anything, but they were neither (apart for a handfull of exceptions) very usefull or versatile.
I think its pretty much comparable to scenery only packs with an exhibit animal include for the animal people to play with.

 

[Milurian]

Id be very dissapointed if a PZ2 only did barnyard style packs. Yes it did include some piece so the builders dont have to go a full year without getting anything, but they were neither (apart for a handfull of exceptions) very usefull or versatile.
I think its pretty much comparable to scenery only packs with an exhibit animal include for the animal people to play with.

It works well for the stage we are at in planet zoo 1 because we already have alot of build sets and whats most missing is miscellaneous stuff whereas the roster at this stage is more important.

I however agree that it would horrible if the sequel only did this style pack we would never get sufficient build items for it to ever be useful

 

[Fini]

Id be very dissapointed if a PZ2 only did barnyard style packs. Yes it did include some piece so the builders dont have to go a full year without getting anything, but they were neither (apart for a handfull of exceptions) very usefull or versatile.
I think its pretty much comparable to scenery only packs with an exhibit animal include for the animal people to play with.

I actually think this type of pack is ideal. Both sides benefit from it.
In retrospect, especially if you look at the early DLCs, there was a lot of nonsense and duplicate stuff. I don't think I even used the ice wall set or the double bamboo and temple building set. And remember, if we get the scaling (which I'm just assuming), it won't be necessary to offer wooden posts in 3 different sizes. That reduces the pieces used effectively quite a bit.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say a pack with 6 animals + 120 building pieces or a pack with 7 animals + 60 building pieces is completely sufficient, maybe a hot take on my part.

 

[Marvinb]

I actually think this type of pack is ideal. Both sides benefit from it.
In retrospect, especially if you look at the early DLCs, there was a lot of nonsense and duplicate stuff. I don't think I even used the ice wall set or the double bamboo and temple building set. And remember, if we get the scaling (which I'm just assuming), it won't be necessary to offer wooden posts in 3 different sizes. That reduces the pieces used effectively quite a bit.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say a pack with 6 animals + 120 building pieces or a pack with 7 animals + 60 building pieces is completely sufficient, maybe a hot take on my part.

Im not really sure how much scaling would really reduce the need amount of pieces in a pack.
I mean you cant just take a 2m wooden beam and shrink it to get a 1m one of the same type, the width of the beam would also change, aswell as the texture. So you would still need multiple lengths for a wooden beam set for example.
Same for walls, the texture is generally made so it lines up and blends seemlessly with other wall pieces, shrinking them would also shrink the texture, making scaling pretty much a downgrade from the current approach.

Scaling definetly would be cool, but its not gonna replace having 3 lenghts of beams for example

 

[Fini]

Im not really sure how much scaling would really reduce the need amount of pieces in a pack.
I mean you cant just take a 2m wooden beam and shrink it to get a 1m one of the same type, the width of the beam would also change, aswell as the texture. So you would still need multiple lengths for a wooden beam set for example.
Same for walls, the texture is generally made so it lines up and blends seemlessly with other wall pieces, shrinking them would also shrink the texture, making scaling pretty much a downgrade from the current approach.

Scaling definetly would be cool, but its not gonna replace having 3 lenghts of beams for example

I know what you mean. Nevertheless, I think 60-120 pieces every 1/4 year are enough. By the way, it also comes down to the same thing whether we wait half a year and then get 250 pieces half of which are so niche that you never use them anyway. Then I prefer to have fewer pieces, but better selected ones.

It really depends on how the scaling works. If it's just shrinking, I agree with you, then we need different lengths so that the thickness stays the same. In my world, we can use the X, Y and Z axes freely for scaling. You are absolutely right about the texture, I hadn't even thought about that. Oh my god, it would really annoy me if the textures didn't fit together anymore, it already annoys me that some parts don't fit together.

 

[yoav_r]

I've tried to come up with a roster for base game that i would be happy with but is nearly imposible. I just don't want to pay twice for animals that are already good. Some could use better animations, models, skins, etc. so they would be ok for paid DLCs but a lot of them (mostly all the animals we got in the last packs) are just as good as they can get already.

Climbing animals, early DLC animals, more birds, more reptiles and some of the base game animals (snow leopard, spotted hyena, giant panda, gharial, green iguana, some bears, okapi, etc) would be good for DLCs in a sequel but a lot other need to be in base game because: 1) they are AbC animals for a zoo Game (lions, tigers, zebras, giraffes, rhinos, elephants) or 2) they already as good as they can be (wisent, boar, alpaca, dromedary, kiwi, swan, etc).

So that begs the question. Which current animals in the game would you pay twice for in a sequel's DLCs?

I think a sequel needs big names for DLCs and i think animals like the Giant panda, the snow leopard, spotted hyena, etc are all appealing enough and not as "essential" for base roster to be left for DLCs and bring in sales.

No matter what, you will have to pay for the animals "twice" , be they in base game or DLCs. However, they likely will improve the models by then.

 

[yoav_r]

It works well for the stage we are at in planet zoo 1 because we already have alot of build sets and whats most missing is miscellaneous stuff whereas the roster at this stage is more important.

I however agree that it would horrible if the sequel only did this style pack we would never get sufficient build items for it to ever be useful

I assume we could get a lot more new themes like for resorts, underater, cabin... They didn't cover everythin in PZ1

 

[Milurian]

I assume we could get a lot more new themes like for resorts, underater, cabin... They didn't cover everythin in PZ1

There are for sure new themes or reimagings of existing themes they could add to the sequel just as pz1 stands the amount of full build sets is enough. this was more challenging the idea that pz2 should immediately start with barnyard style packs making build set beyond those released initially almost non existent which is I disapprove of.

 

[NachoB]

So after much thought, i think i came up with a (very large) list of animals that i think should be in the base roster of the sequel and that would please me enough. I think is very unlikely, since between the habitat (around 130 animals) and the exhibit boxes/aquariums/aviaries (around another 40) it comes to almost 200 animals. Some could be removed and added later in DLCs for sure, and that's actually what i did with some "big names" that we currently have, because i believe that aquariums and birds alone won't be enough to sale the packs. You need popular well known animals in there as well, so i selected the ones that i think would be charismatic enough and if delayed, wanted and requested enough, that when they come out in a DLC they will drive in sales for that DLC.

I included some flying animals (mostly birds) in base game but not a lot. I think most of them should be left for DLCs. And i think aquatic animals will be a big part of the sequel but included them all as "DLC options". Maybe a new type of exhibit like small aquariums could provide some small and simple ones in the base game. Touch pools and fish ponds could be implemented later one much like WTE where in our game.

So here it goes... large list incoming under spoilers.

Note: in bold animals from the base game that would be later added in the DLCs but also animals that SHOULD 100% be added through DLCs. The rest are just sugestions.
Note2: I didn't add any fully aquatic animal outside of the West Indian Manate because there are too many to count but ofc they would be 100% options for DLC animals as well.

Spoiler: PZ 2 Roster

Africa
- Habitat

1. - African Bush Elephant
2. - White rhinoceros
3. - Black rhinoceros
4. - Common hippo
5. - Warthog
6. - Red river hog
7. - Grant's zebra ----> Grevy's zebra skin / variant
8. - Reticulated giraffe ----> Massai Girafee skin / variant
9. - Somalí wild ass
10. - Dromedary camel
11. - African buffalo
12. - Thomson's gazelle
13. - Impala
14. - Nyala
15. - Gemsbok
16. - Scimitar horned Oryx
17. - Addax
18. - Sable antelope
19. - Nile lechwe
20. - Blue wildebeest
21. - African lion
22. - Cheetah
23. - Caracal
24. - Spotted hyena
25. - Striped hyena
26. - Black backed jackal
27. - Fenec Fox
28. - Common ostrich
29. - Helmeted guineafowl
30. - Greater flamingo
31. - African penguin
32. - Nile crocodile
33. - Chimpanzee ----> Bonobo variant
34. - Lowland gorilla
35. - Vervet monkey
36. - Olive baboon
37. - Ring tailed lemur
38. - Red ruffed lemur
39. - Fossa

Flying animals:
- Egyptian fruit bat

Exhibit and small aquarium animals:
- Sacred scarab beatle
- Giant tiger land snail
- African bullfrog
- Desert horned viper
- Black mamba
- Madagascar hissing roach

Animals left for DLCs: okapi, pygmy hippo, mandril, mantled guereza, secretary bird, Saddle billed or marabou stork, grey crowned crane, great white pelican, hamadryas baboon, african spurred tortoise, aardvark, african crested porcupine, meerkats, serval, african wild dog, Sifaka, aye aye, gelada, aardwolf, greater kudu, África fish eagle, egyptian vulture, bateleur, hoopoe, bee eater, turacos, african rock python, chameleons, nile monitor, rain frog, gaboon viper, naked mole rat, springbok, dik dik, duikers, gerenuk, ankole wattusi cattle, Northern bald ibis, ground hornbill,

South América
Habitat:

1. - Jaguar
2. - Capybara
3. - Collared peccary
4. - Lowland tapir
5. - Maned wolf
6. - Colombian White faced capuchin monkey
7. - Howler monkey
8. - Llama
9. - Alpaca
10. - Patagonian mara
11. - Nine banded armadillo
12. - Brown throated sloth
13. - Greater rhea
14. - Green iguana
15. - Spectacled caiman
16. - Red footed tortoise

Flying animals:
- Toco toucan

Exhibit and small aquarium animals:
- Emerald tree boa
- Boa constrictor
- Yellow anaconda
- Argentinian horned frog
- Brazilian wandering spider
- Goliath Bird Eater tarantula
- Amazonian Giant centiped
- Red eyed tree frog
- Poison frogs ( varios )
- Blue morpho

Animals left for DLCs: Golden lion tamarin, squirrel monkey, spider monkey, White faced saki, two toed sloth, Giant Anteater, Giant armadillo, Giant otter, Southern Tamandua, Ocelot, South American coati, Scarlet ibis, Roseatte spoonbill, White faced whistling duck, Galápagos tortoise, Marine or rhinoceros iguana, argentina tegu, Arrau river turtle, Baird's tapir, brazilian porcupine, spectacled bear, guanaco, vicuña, Andean condor, harpy eagle, resplendent quetzal, macaws, hummingbirds, Green anaconda, mata mata turtle, plumed basilisk, hondurian White bat, vampire bat, pink fairy armadillo, Leaf cutter ant colonies,

North America
Habitat

1. - American bison
2. - Pronghorn
3. - Desert big horned sheep
4. - Black tailed prairie dog
5. - Moose
6. - White tailed deer
7. - American standard donkey
8. - Cougar
9. - Racoon
10. - Grizzly bear
11. - American black bear
12. - Grey wolf ----> arctic, Mexican, eurasian and Indian variants.
13. - Californian sea lion
14. - American alligator
15. - Wild turkey
16. - American flamingo

Flying animals:
- Cloudless sulphur
- Luna moth

Exhibit and small aquarium animals:
- Red eared spider / Painted terrapin
- Axolotl
- American bullfrog
- Giant desert Hairy scorpion
- Mexican red knee tarantula

Animals left for DLCs: sea otter, black footed ferret, bald eagle, greater roadrunner, alligator snapping turtle, american beaver, mountain goat, coyote, bobcat, burrowing owl, west Indian manatee, Green sea turtle, gila monster, diamond back rattle snake, nene, Brown pelican, Californian cóndor, Californian quail, greater sage grouse, ocellated turkey

Polar poles
Habitat

1. - King penguin
2. - Reindeer
3. - Grey seal
4. - Arctic fox
5. - Wolverine

Animals left for DLCs: rockhopper penguin, gentoo penguin, leopard seal, beluga, polar bear, snowy owl, king eider, walrus, musk ox, Arctic hare, Atlantic puffin

Asia
Habitat

1. - Bactrian camel
2. - Asían elephant
3. - Sichuan / Golden takin
4. - Domestic water buffalo
5. - Bengal tiger
6. - Sri Lanka leopard
7. - Red panda
8. - Dhole
9. - Babirusa
10. - Asiátic black bear
11. - Sloth bear
12. - Malayan tapir
13. - Binturong
14. - Asian small clawed otter
15. - Lar gibbon
16. - Reeve's muntjac
17. - Chital deer
18. - Prezewalsky horse
19. - Asían water monitor
20. - Indian peafowl
21. - Lady Amherts pheasant
22. - Red crowned crane
23. - Red jungle fowl

Flying animals:
- Green banded swallow tail
- Goliath atlas moth

Exhibit and small aquarium animals:
- Leaf insect
- Giant forest scorpion

Animals left for DLCs: blackbuck, Indian Cobra, gharial, Indian rhino, lion tailed macaque, Giant panda, honey badger, saiga, Indian mongoose, painted stork, Japanese macaque, Golden snub nosed monkey, Giant salamander, Komodo dragon, chinese alligator, Pere David deer, amur leopard, snow leopard, Palla's cat, fishing cat, Golden pheasant, sun bear, siamang, orangutan, phillipine eagle, bali minah, tammincks tragopan, argus pheasant, reeve's pheasants, himalayan monal, great Indian hornbill, Giant flying fox, slow loris, phillipine trailer, colugo, orchid mantis, geckos, Giant red and white flying squirrel, yellow throated marten

Europe
Habitat

1. - Wisent
2. - Wild boar
3. - Alpine ibex
4. - Alpine goat
5. - Fallow deer
6. - Red deer
7. - European badger
8. - Red Fox
9. - Eurasian lynx
10. - Eurasian Brown bear
11. - Highland cow
12. - Domestic sheep
13. - Domestic chicken
14. - Mute swan
15. - Mallard duck
16. - Hermans tortoise

Flying animals:
- Barn owl
- Old world swallow tail
- European peacock

Exhibit and small aquarium animals:
- Fire salamander
- Danube crested newt

Animals left for DLCs: wéstern cappercaillie, chamois, Alpine marmot, White stork, lammergeir, Golden eagle, Eurasian eagle owl, European rabbit, hedgehog, red squirrel

Oceania
Habitat

1. - Dingo
2. - Red kangaroo
3. - Bennett's wallaby
4. - Koala
5. - Common wombat
6. - Paltypus
7. - Tasmanian devil
8. - Kune kune pig
9. - Emu
10. - Black swan
11. - LBP
12. - Kiwi

Flying Animals:
- Budgerigars
- Spectacled flying fox

Exhibit and small aquarium animals:
- Eastern Brown snake
- Blue tongued Lizard
- Tuatara

Animals left for DLCs: tree kangaroo, short beaked echidna, numbat, sugar glider, quoll, Victoria crowned pigeon, Southern Cassowary, saltewater crocodile, Perentie, frilled Lizard, Sulphur crested cockatoo, palm cockatoo, rainbow lorikeet, kookaburra, kea, kakapo, South Island takahe, birds of paradise, mulga, red bellied snake, coconut crab, desert horned devil

Anniversary animals: proboscis monkey, dama gazelle, quokka - i think the anniversary animals should be ones that were cool we got in base game but kind of controversial, that way they would be added for free and no one has to see them taking another slot in another DLC again haha and it would be cool if we not only get habitat animals but a new exhibit box animal along with them, to expand both rosters.

 

[synthetase]

I hope for animals to look more unique from each other. Different antlers, tails, patterns, manes, horns, etc... Also it would be cool to transfer animals between sandbox zoos IMO. In the sequel I hope you could make time go slower.
Now I will attempt a 50 species roster...

Spoiler: Planet Zoo 2

• African Buffalo
• African Lion
• African Pygmy Goat
• African Savannah Elephant
• Aldabra Giant Tortoise
• American Alligator
• American Bison
• American Flamingo
• Arabian Oryx
• Asian Small-clawed Otter
• Black Rhinoceros
• Blue Wildebeest
• Bornean Orangutan
• Cheetah
• Columbian White-faced Capuchin
• Common Ostrich
• Cougar
• Dromedary
• Elk
• Eurasian Brown Bear
• Eurasian Lynx
• Giant Panda
• Greater Rhea
• Hippo
• Iberian Wolf
• Indian Elephant
• Indian Peafowl
• King Penguin
• Koala
• Komodo Dragon
• Malayan Tapir
• Meerkat
• Nile Crocodile
• Nyala
• Okapi
• Perentie
• Plains Zebra
• Polar Bear
• Red Fox
• Red Panda
• Reindeer
• Reticulated Giraffe
• Ring-tailed Lemur
• Siberian Tiger
• Sloth Bear
• Snow Leopard
• Sumatran Tiger
• Western Lowland Gorilla
• Wild Boar
• Wild Turkey

Spoiler: Animals I Hope come in DLCs

• Africa: Aardvark, Aardwolf, Addax, African Civet, African Penguin, African Wild Dog, Banded Mongoose, Black Rhino, Common Eland, Fossa, Grey-crowned Crane, Helmeted Guineafowl, Impala, Klipspringer, Red-ruffed Lemur, Sand Cat, Spotted Hyena
• Asia: Arctic Fox, Asian Palm Civet, Binturong, Common Pheasant, Demoiselle Crane, Dhole, Golden Pheasant, Kiang, Nilgai, Pallas' Cat, Przewalski's Wild Horse, Reeve's Muntjac, Takin
• Europe: Alpine Ibex, Chamois, European Badger, European Beaver, Fallow Deer, Mallard Duck, Mute Swan, Wisent
• North America: Arctic Fox, Bighorn Sheep, Harbor Seal, Nutria, North American River Otter, Pronghorn, Sandhill Crane, Timber Wolf, Walrus
• Oceania: Black Swan, Common Brushtail Possum, Emu, Goodfellow's Tree Kangaroo, Short-beaked Echidna, Tasmanian Devil, Wombat
• South America: Black Howler MOnkey, Capybara, Greater Rhea, Golden Lion Tamarin, Maned Wolf, Ocelot, Patagonian Mara, Roseate Spoonbill
• Antarctic: King Penguin, Rockhopper Penguin

 

[AlexSea]

Frankly I'd be mad at Frontier if any animal from the first game, base or DLC, was sold in a DLC in the sequel. They already have the models, sounds, and animations, and JWE2 managed not to sell any prehistoric creature from the first game as DLC (except for the Huayangosaurus and the Secrets of Dr. Wu hybrids), so why can't Planet Zoo do the same and have every DLC animal from the first game be part of the base game in the sequel?

 

[RightWhale]

Frankly I'd be mad at Frontier if any animal from the first game, base or DLC, was sold in a DLC in the sequel. They already have the models, sounds, and animations, and JWE2 managed not to sell any prehistoric creature from the first game as DLC (except for the Huayangosaurus and the Secrets of Dr. Wu hybrids), so why can't Planet Zoo do the same and have every DLC animal from the first game be part of the base game in the sequel?

The year is 2029, after 2 years of development Planet Zoo 2 finally gets another monkey! It’s the capuchin again.

 

[NachoB]

The year is 2029, after 2 years of development Planet Zoo 2 finally gets another monkey! It’s the capuchin again.

No birds in base roster, you have to wait for all of them in a DLC. We never get an ostrich.

 

[RightWhale]

No birds in base roster, you have to wait for all of them in a DLC. We never get an ostrich.

I got to be honest, I’m coming around to the idea of PZ2. But if base game seriously has less habitat birds than PZ1 I will scream.

 

[NachoB]

Frankly I'd be mad at Frontier if any animal from the first game, base or DLC, was sold in a DLC in the sequel. They already have the models, sounds, and animations, and JWE2 managed not to sell any prehistoric creature from the first game as DLC (except for the Huayangosaurus and the Secrets of Dr. Wu hybrids), so why can't Planet Zoo do the same and have every DLC animal from the first game be part of the base game in the sequel?

Honestly me too... But i don't see it likely. And since a lot of animals from base game really need a remake, selling some of them in DLCs with an improved version could be an option so we get a high quality version of the animal and they get some popular animals to make the DLCs appealing.