SunLeader, i think that's a crux with legends - they are getting better each time to tell them.
Except it is not true and that didn't happen at all. What happened Chris got carried away, and not because of Star Citizen. It has been always a side project to him. All his dreams has been tied into Squadron 42. So there was already some disappointment and grunting between players in 2014. Cultists carried away and took to forums to "ask our dear leader to carry on and make game bigger". There was no official consensus or any such confirmation taken place, nor there were promises.
Thats not really Correct.
If you listened to the Speeches Roberts gave. Its pretty Clear that his Dreams went far beyond SQ42. SQ42 was his Target because he never really tought to be gaining this much Money from it.
To begin with tough that doesnt matter.
The Community throwing Money at them is an very Simple Fact. They are at 140 Million by now.
And the common Perception of Star Citizen being not SQ42 but the Open MMO Universe is not exactly unknown either.
They dont need to tell any Legend here. Cause the Legend just happened in front of everyones Eyes
Sunleader yesterday said that Elite : Dangerous amounted to no more than " a giant box of nothing that looked kind of pretty" to paraphrase.
Then THIS happened earlier today in Elite....
http://images.akamai.steamuserconte...922/F280918F5742221D10DE6FB9E63893A49A6365AB/
Sorry, what was that you were saying Sunleader?
Are you still there Sunleader?
Oh dont worry I am still here *gg*
I got to Work and to Sleep in between so dont get worried just because I am around for a few Hours
And well.
No Offense. But nothing has really happened.
They made a Nice Little Video Sequence which the Player could Watch while being Tied to the Chair.
Thats it.
An Half Interactive Trailer you could call it. Or an Cutscene if you so want.
But what can you actually do with this
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Moreover Maybe remember what I said.
ED did the Opposite of SC. They started with an Giant Empty Frame and now are Starting to get Parts.
I just hope that we will get out of that Cutscene stuff soon and actually get Encounters where we ourselves can actually Interact with that Aliens and not just Sit there Tied to the Chair by some Scripted Event.
It doesnt affect my Statement of ED having Started the other way around.
After all this Part would be something they Developed and Added afterwards.
Just like SC has the Parts lying around and now needs to Develop the Main Frame so they can actually get things on the Table
It also doesnt Change that ED is still pretty Empty.
I do actually hope that the Aliens will at least bring some new Principles to Combat. So we get some Changes on this at least.
This Game seriously needs to get some more Variations on Combat.
Yes you are right under the "thats not my exact words" game then no you didnt say any of this.
Its not about Exact Words. But simply about what I meant and what People with a non Hostile Perception of me would Interprete *gg*
The Lol is simply the honest reaction of me laughing
Sorry for being somewhat honest on this. I was never good with being Polite or telling things through a flower.
Its hilarious tough that you would tell me to be more exact.
Usually when I write Giant Text Walls explaining in Detail so People cant misunderstand it. They complain that its too much too read xD
And no Mate.
See the thing is Simply that I never meant it the way you interpreted it.
I also dont think you really misunderstood that. You merely choose to interprete it that way on purpose. -.^
But well nvm.
Thing is. SC got Tons of Money. And they Talked about a Dream and Gave Stretch Goals.
And People Paid them. And Paid them more Reaching these Stretch Goals.
So of course they Increased the Scale to Reach these Stretch Goals.
As I said.
I would have made the Upper Half of these Stretch Goals (or more actually) to be added AFTER the Base Game is out.
But they did not.
They tried to First Finish all the Stuff.
For a Smaller Single Player Game this would actually be the 100% correct thing. Because SP Games aint getting Played much after the Player Beat em.
So adding Big Chunks of Content over and over just doesnt work.
Hence you have to Finish all the Content before releasing the Game. Because otherwise alot of People will never be getting to that Content cause they already Finished the Game before.
But for an Open MMO Universe its Different.
Its not an Story you Finish and then consider the Game done.
So you can add the Base Game and then start Expanding that World over and over.
Albeit its also a Game against Time. Cause if like in ED the Players Run out of things to do as the Content comes too slow your also losing alot of Players.
ED as well could be way more Successful if they were Faster with adding Content for the Players to Explorer etc.
And it would be able to keep Players Entertained Longer if the Combat had more Variations.
More Ships especially Ships of Bigger Sizes would add a much longer Lifespan to a Player being Entertained. Because he not only had something Bigger to Reach. But also would have Ships that work by a Different Principle to Fight against and to Fight when using yourself.
To be Entertaining. A Game needs to Surprise us now and then. If the Player can win using the same Tactics over and over. He gets Bored. And thats the Problem in ED right now. Combat Follows an very Limited Field of View. So the Valid Tactics are very Limited.
ED would do good to Ramp up the Speed in which they add more Content. Because the Best Base Frame will not amount to a Good Game if there is little you can do with it
So well. Long Text again.
Small Statement.
Lets Hope that the Aliens Soon stop being some Cutscene Video. And instead become an actual Interactive Entertainment for us Players.
And since we are at it. Lets hope that the Aliens Ships work somewhat different. So that Fighting them gets us away from the Standard Combat Tactics we use against Human Ships.
To be honest I don't disagree with many criticisms leveled at ED, but there's nothing in CIG output to date that makes me believe SC is going to be any better.
I got no reason to Believe they will do Worse either.
And I tend to give things a Chance
I simply dislike it that in this Topic. Tons of People keep up Doom Talking the Project before its even on the Table ^^
It sounds like we wished for similar things
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I've said it several times before, and probably will again, but they should have *stopped taking money* when they had enough for the original scope (no, not 500k but £20 million, or 40 million or whatever their secret number was). Instead they were sufficiently greedy and unwise to keep raking it in while feeling obliged to expand the scope to match. No other business does this. No other business could do this, since SC has raised the most money of any crowd sourced project ever. Nevertheless, it is diabolical mismanagement of a project to have no fixed boundaries, which would have got CR fired in most situatiions
Well on that I would say Taking Money is Fine.
I would simply have made a Clear Cut.
Saying these Stretch Goals up to lets say 10 Million are what we will Aim for to be in the Release.
And these Stretch Goals beyond 10 Million will be stuff we will Start Working on AFTER the Game has been Released.
Money for these can still be taken.
And the Players for Pledging Money to a Future Project could still get some Stuff in the Base Game.
But the Additional Content would not take up an Work Schedule yet. And would be Officially known to be stuff that WILL Come.
But that will only come Years after the Game is already out
I assume they would have gotten less Money then anyways.
But the Importand bit is. That they would have had a Limit in place as to how far the Project can Grow before being Released. Thus being able to keep Schedules at least to an Degree. And not ending up with an Schedule of an 500k Project for an 100 Million Project.
