Scytale

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If in game, rogue planets should appear in the GalMap (should they ?) as faint and apparently uninteresting as brown dwarfs. I am not sure the Dark Worlds have beed explored so thoroughly as others systems. Long treks among non-scoopable stars may be a good mean of obfuscation.
And, again, Jason Ryder needed to prepare an expedition to Raxxla. Why ? Extra fuel tanks ?
 
You're right. I just got bummed when I got there and there's a station just chilling, seemingly not hiding anything (like all of them).

Someone paraphrased a statement from, I think, someone at fdev saying I t could be anything and included things like an asteroid or an object or generation ship.

while I was disappointedly looking at the system map for beta pictoris, I noticed it had a little asteroid belt. It made me wonder how many times do we see an asteroid belt in a system and don't think anything of it. meanwhile, little raxxlaan clues could be in one of them somewhere, almost impossible to find.
 
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If in game, rogue planets should appear in the GalMap (should they ?) as faint and apparently uninteresting as brown dwarfs. I am not sure the Dark Worlds have beed explored so thoroughly as others systems. Long treks among non-scoopable stars may be a good mean of obfuscation.
And, again, Jason Ryder needed to prepare an expedition to Raxxla. Why ? Extra fuel tanks ?
This is brilliant. Deep in a bunch of non-scoopable stars. Only problem is once you get there are you getting back out?
 
The Nebulae are ideal spots for hiding whatever you want statement may have diverted most of the player base from darkness .
Btw, did anyone perform a serious survey of SD 8th moons orbits ? Or shall I consider to rearm my trusty AspX with Mark I Eyeball Sensors ?

Jorki was in SD recently & hopped over to the 8th moons. Dropped out of SC several times around them trying to see anything stealthy. Didn’t! Did notice a new contact was repeatedly reported as soon as I went into SC, but couldn’t locate it & suspect it was a wake contact several kls away. If you want to check my position was AB3g 0.15ls, AB3f 19.4ls, AB3h 39.8ls.

Seem to remember reporting about a year ago a wider gap between two SD moons than I expected, but can’t find that post (darn new forum, darn FD tidying, darn!).

@filthymick. Rogue bodies might be reported in the system map, but then again they may not. Depends how FD have set it up. Since a rogue body is not really part of the system then I think it may not. It would (presumably) be detectable like the comets are (there was a thread on that topic) - watch out for “slow down” message when you’re not expecting it & drop out of SC?
 

Scytale

Banned
This is brilliant. Deep in a bunch of non-scoopable stars. Only problem is once you get there are you getting back out?

Right.. Maybe the only way back would then to have a refuel kindly offered by TDW... Or they have a convenient NS in/next to their dark system..
We could look for NS hidden among Dark Regions. They may have been put there for a reason.
Late EDIT: ... by TDW or by any twisted men residing on that body, of course. Besides, if it is Raxxla, jumping back wherever you want shouldn't be a problem...
 
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Right.. Maybe the only way back would then to have a refuel kindly offered by TDW... Or they have a convenient NS in/next to their dark system..
We could look for NS hidden among Dark Regions. They may have been put there for a reason.
Far enough in that it scares people away from what they believe is suicide because as far as they know there would be no return. Leap of faith concept.
 

Scytale

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Didn’t! Did notice a new contact was repeatedly reported as soon as I went into SC, but couldn’t locate it & suspect it was a wake contact several kls away.
Do you think that a TDW ship low waking to its hidden station could look somewhat like that contact? I mean, that station that avoids detection must have some kind of detectable traffic.
Could be a point in shadowing ships that are low-waking in apparently uninteresting spots around 8th moons. They don't have to be registered as TDW or whatever.
Besides, it was a (happy) time when FDevs were used to fly "floating NPCs for lore purposes"... An Elyssia Fields', or so, ship orbiting and low waking any 8th moon would be like touching heaven, imho...
Or am I too enthusiast, FD ?
 
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If in game, rogue planets should appear in the GalMap (should they ?) as faint and apparently uninteresting as brown dwarfs. I am not sure the Dark Worlds have beed explored so thoroughly as others systems. Long treks among non-scoopable stars may be a good mean of obfuscation.
And, again, Jason Ryder needed to prepare an expedition to Raxxla. Why ? Extra fuel tanks ?
Very good point. Makes a LOT of sense.
 
I did encounter a Dark Wheel npc at one of the SD moons, can’t remember which. It showed interest in any cargo I might be carrying (wasn’t), then it just bumbled around as they usually do until I lost interest and waked away.

SD is the obvious place for TDW station (need to be elite to get the permit, though the npcs often aren’t-odd!), but it might need a bit of searching; I’ve not seen any signs of it. Beginning to think it might not be orbiting an 8th moon! Started to look at other moons also when out exploring. If the Horizons start screen is a clue, then it’s by two close icy moons.
 
I did encounter a Dark Wheel npc at one of the SD moons, can’t remember which. It showed interest in any cargo I might be carrying (wasn’t), then it just bumbled around as they usually do until I lost interest and waked away.

SD is the obvious place for TDW station (need to be elite to get the permit, though the npcs often aren’t-odd!), but it might need a bit of searching; I’ve not seen any signs of it. Beginning to think it might not be orbiting an 8th moon! Started to look at other moons also when out exploring. If the Horizons start screen is a clue, then it’s by two close icy moons.
I don't think the means to be invited to join TDW is in SD. This is because of the in-game description of how to get a permit.

"Achieving a high rank with the Pilots' Federation is the most common way to earn such an invitation, but other, more secretive methods are also known to exist. "

This implies, you can get an invite from TDW, without even being Elite, let alone going to SD. I'll say it again...."Perhaps by finding Raxxla!"

Especially given that TDW are a "clique" of the PF, apparently????
 
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If in game, rogue planets should appear in the GalMap (should they ?) as faint and apparently uninteresting as brown dwarfs. I am not sure the Dark Worlds have beed explored so thoroughly as others systems. Long treks among non-scoopable stars may be a good mean of obfuscation.
And, again, Jason Ryder needed to prepare an expedition to Raxxla. Why ? Extra fuel tanks ?
Hmm, not sure we can quite say that. According to Rafe Zetter, Jason had found evidence for the real existence of Raxxla. That doesn’t necessarily mean he’d found anything to provide the location. Rafe also says that Jason had come back to get a proper team together, but doesn’t specify the nature of that team. It could be an assault team, a science team, an archaeological team, etc, etc. As is the norm we just don’t know.

Quote from TDW below:

I hadn't heard much from him or about him for some time until just before he died, when he told me he'd found evidence for the real existence of Raxxla. He came
back from Deep Space to get a proper team together . . . ' Rafe smiled bitterly. 'But just before he was due to go back, he decided to take a safe-worlds holiday jaunt with his son . . . and an assassin was waiting for him.'

That’s from the end of the Novella. Pretty sure there isn’t anything that goes into more specifics anywhere else in there. Haven’t checked exhaustively though, so could be wrong!

Edit - removed a load of stuff which was basically starting thoughts on how to best reply to a completely different post, but accidentally posted along with this one, even though I thought they’d been deleted. Sorry about that!
 
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I think of long supercruise travel when extra fuel tanks come to mind

Random/odd, but when were fuel scoops first introduced in the timeline of Elite?

And the quote from TDW book "He came back from Deep Space to get a proper team together".
 
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