The Quest To Find Raxxla

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
DrewCarnegie said:
Looks like a list of all the key elements of the Salome storyline. Maybe they were the 'clues'?
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Yes, but there are some items in the list that I don’t recognise. If these were local galnet posts then they’ve long since disappeared (so we can’t find out what they were) & I can’t remember them cropping up in the two books. So it would be nice to have them explained.edit: ASC’s final list is:
Tapestry
Dark Wheel
Status Quo
Mutabilis
Incursio
Finis
Rebecca
Reclamation
Prism
Ferenchia
LTT 8740
Haoria
Premonition
COL 70
Tionisla
Reorte
Riedquat
Eulexia
Maia
Altera
Sol
Achenar
Eotienses
Varati
HR 6421
Sirius
Cemiess
Chontaiko
Cypripedum
Velum
Monile
Vestimenta
Alioth
Daibo
Exodus
Rift
Conflux
Gap
Zurara
HIP 16497
Khun
46 Eridani
Anumclaw
HIP 17519
Club
Dynasty
EDP
Gateway.

The Oolite books can be removed as filler to help complicate the cryptogram. But where do
Chontaiko
Cypripedum
Velum
Monile
Vestimenta
fit the Salomé storyline? Can’t remember those at all.

Edit: ah, apparently he had a livestream last night. I’ll check that out (2.5 hours worth😕, I’m not a fan of livestreams!)
 
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PeteACarter

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Random thought for the day.....In the same way that crashed ships dont show up as POIs when you map a plant, if the Omphalos Rift behaves in the same way then Raxxla could actually be a planet in a very busy system in the bubble, that has been discovered by 1000s of CMDRs, mapped by 100s and even driven around on by dozens and we would have no idea
 

PeteACarter

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Looking for old rifters to keep me honest here, but I just had a thought as to why the DW missions may have disappeared. This is using my theory on how the rift mystery and Raxxla may be connected.....

Back when the rift story was happening, Eafots was regarded as the Formidine Rift. Even the log messages talk about it. However, since the galactic regions were introduced, technically Eafots sector is in the Elysian Shore, not the Formidine Rift. This means that technically, it is not in the outer rim, hence the old missions could be regarded as misleading, hence they were removed.....discuss.

By the way, since leaving the CoR tourist beacon, I am yet to find a system that is fully discovered, let alone fully mapped
 

Six6VI

Six6VI
PeteACarter said:
Random thought for the day.....In the same way that crashed ships dont show up as POIs when you map a plant, if the Omphalos Rift behaves in the same way then Raxxla could actually be a planet in a very busy system in the bubble, that has been discovered by 1000s of CMDRs, mapped by 100s and even driven around on by dozens and we would have no idea
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Some planets have no discovered by tags, eg: Lave 2, while others have no mapped by tags either, eg: Triton (Sol), so why would anyone haul all the way out there to map them (my OCD made me do it)?
 

PeteACarter

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Six6VI said:
Some planets have no discovered by tags, eg: Lave 2, while others have no mapped by tags either, eg: Triton (Sol), so why would anyone haul all the way out there to map them (my OCD made me do it)?
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Ok, my numbers may be excessively large, but my point was simply we could find it, discover it, map it and not even know....possibly. And this would allow for it to be in the bubble without us finding it for 5 years
 
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Six6VI

Six6VI
PeteACarter said:
Ok, my numbers may be excessively large, but my point was simply we could find it, discover it, map it and not even know....possibly. And this would allow for it to be in the bubble without us finding it for 5 years
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Oops, silly me! Forgot the </s> tag again :S

That was more a rhetorical question that agreed with the basic premise and therefore, didn't require an answer because if this simulation is anything like the real world, the best place to hide something is in plain sight. It could easily be in a high traffic core system if it behaves like a persistent but unmarked POI.

If the claim it could be found at launch is true though, it can't be on any planetary surface.

[Edit: Both Triton and Lave 2 (previous post) currently permit locked, hence the mentions.]
 

bluecrash

bluecrash
CMDR Maylor Rom said:
Something new to try. An earlier thread about a certain "Russian Commander" mentioned one of the things he (allegedly) did to find Raxxla in the previous 198x Elite games (and I doubt it is true) was to "Jump while Fuel Scooping".

So, In considering just the act of "Jumping while Fuel Scooping", it occurred to me that this might have some validity if it were done at certain star locations included in Elite Dangerous from the previous 198x Elite series like Lave, Leesti, and others.

If anyone is interested in trying to "Jump while Fuel Scooping" around the stars here in Elite Dangerous included from the previous 198x Elite games, I could use some help.

I'm doing this now and one thing I found out real quick. Carry some Heat Sink Launchers with you because your temp will be high at the star while scooping. As soon as you activate your jump drive your temp will go through the roof while the jump drive spins up. Also be sure to have the destination star plotted before you start scooping. It works best if you fly around the star while your jump drive spins up with your destination behind the star so as soon as you see it emerge from behind the star you can go full throttle and finish the jump.

Now, I think there are two ways this may work. If done correctly, it may work only on certain classes of stars. Or, if done correctly, it may only work around the stars put in Elite Dangerous from the previous 198x Elite game, i.e. Lave, Leesti and others, possibly using another 198x Elite star as a destination for the jump, i.e. From Lave (star) to Leesti (star).

I plan to try this from all the stars listed in the 198x Elite game which appear in Elite Dangerous, using each star as a jump start and a jump destination, i.e From Lave (star) to Leesti (destination), and then from Leesti (star) to Lave (destination), and doing this to all the stars from Elite198x present in Elite Dangerous.

May not lead to anything and eliminate a possibility, but also may be fun to do and gain experience with some piloting skills. I also know where there is a fuel star and a neutron star in the same system. I thought of supercharging my FSD with the neutron star, while doing a fuel scoop at the main star and plotting an extended jump to the max of the FSD overcharge distance while fuel scooping.

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raxxla was not actually in 198x game
 

bluecrash

bluecrash
Vetinari said:
agreed.

the whole 'honked' and 'but not found' bits I have found zero substantiation for, just loose lips on oddball streams misquoting or making up myths, Cobra jump range etc all contexts added by players and then repeated as facts.

the substantiated quote is

DW - Does Raxxla exist in the game?
DB - It exists and we know where it is

THATS IT in its entirety.

Whether DB was metaphorically speaking (Raxxla is a state of mind) is a different matter entirely and open to speculation. Who 'we' are has been speculated and morphed into fact as well.

I personally think the Dark Wheel story is something that may play out in game, but the DW don't know where Raxxla is so it can still be kept hidden. I think it will be a future DLC that opens up the DW. but I could be 100% wrong.

Another one is DJTruthSayer interview with Michael Brookes: (Edit@ this one is person to person so you can see and hear MB respond directly)

DJ - Is it right that there will be no clues?
MB - (hesitating / thinking throughout answer) - yes but at the same time you have to make some things a tiny bit obvious so players know what they are doing

What the hell that means I don't know, I do know MB responded to 'no clues' and didn't offer it so don't know where the original quote is from.
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The Club will develop as it's a direct creation of DB. The Darkwheel is tired.
 

bluecrash

bluecrash
rOmiLaYu said:
I've said this before but it surely was lost in the flow of this juggernaut, so I'll say it again. For what it's worth, I think the language from those missions has been de facto ret-conned. New players have no knowledge of them in-game and to use them as a key would be unfair to them and flies in the face of what FDev are trying to accomplish with the Codex. Obviously, one is free to do as one chooses, but for this CMDR, the only thing that is cannon for me now is "It's out there and we know what it is" and whatever is in the Codex. Everything else is vapid speculation.
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Plato for a follower of Pythagoras. The references to geometric shapes is also key. Plato is telling us that these shapes are natural and recurring in the universe, that they can be expressed as a series of mathematical relationships, and that they belong to the universe’s secret language or building blocks. But it’s foolishness to understand all of this, and the physical description of the cosmos, as a pronouncement of doctrine, of religious mysterium. More accurately, Plato says that man must undertake the mental challenge to study and attempt to explain the world around him, including the cosmos beyond his perceptive abilities.
 

Six6VI

Six6VI
Scytale said:
G.A.N. = AI, Romero = pilgrim
The AI Pilgrim ? Could that " lost AI" be actually "The Caretakers " ?



Mmmh.. Raxxla features, as well as anything else ingame, could very well be evolving as the game mechanics evolve. I hope so !
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I concur, but then FDev are also aware how pedantic some of us can be about holding them strictly to every utterance they make in public and performing live vivisection on such comments for tinfoil and salt.

There may be no going back on some of the limited statements FDev already made.
 

[PS4] Filthymick420

[PS4] Filthymick420
CMDR Maylor Rom said:
Something new to try. An earlier thread about a certain "Russian Commander" mentioned one of the things he (allegedly) did to find Raxxla in the previous 198x Elite games (and I doubt it is true) was to "Jump while Fuel Scooping".

So, In considering just the act of "Jumping while Fuel Scooping", it occurred to me that this might have some validity if it were done at certain star locations included in Elite Dangerous from the previous 198x Elite series like Lave, Leesti, and others.

If anyone is interested in trying to "Jump while Fuel Scooping" around the stars here in Elite Dangerous included from the previous 198x Elite games, I could use some help.

I'm doing this now and one thing I found out real quick. Carry some Heat Sink Launchers with you because your temp will be high at the star while scooping. As soon as you activate your jump drive your temp will go through the roof while the jump drive spins up. Also be sure to have the destination star plotted before you start scooping. It works best if you fly around the star while your jump drive spins up with your destination behind the star so as soon as you see it emerge from behind the star you can go full throttle and finish the jump.

Now, I think there are two ways this may work. If done correctly, it may work only on certain classes of stars. Or, if done correctly, it may only work around the stars put in Elite Dangerous from the previous 198x Elite game, i.e. Lave, Leesti and others, possibly using another 198x Elite star as a destination for the jump, i.e. From Lave (star) to Leesti (star).

I plan to try this from all the stars listed in the 198x Elite game which appear in Elite Dangerous, using each star as a jump start and a jump destination, i.e From Lave (star) to Leesti (destination), and then from Leesti (star) to Lave (destination), and doing this to all the stars from Elite198x present in Elite Dangerous.

May not lead to anything and eliminate a possibility, but also may be fun to do and gain experience with some piloting skills. I also know where there is a fuel star and a neutron star in the same system. I thought of supercharging my FSD with the neutron star, while doing a fuel scoop at the main star and plotting an extended jump to the max of the FSD overcharge distance while fuel scooping.

o7....
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I'm sure if that's the case you have to be in a specific system already because I fuel scoop and prepare my frame shift drive regularly. Only thing that ever happens is my ship starts to overheat. then I arrive at the next system receiving heat damage. But it's always the system I planned to go to.
 
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Vetinari

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PeteACarter said:
Cool. Could you post the link please? I would love to see it
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Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AsfgQqbRKM


Its in there, a lot of good stuff and info in it as well about how Frontier may have viewed Raxxla and the Dark Wheel so I'd recommend the whole thing although anything but the conversation with DB I have just taken as background info and interesting to know.

I admit I'm a bit salty as I thought it was linked on the first page but when I looked it just went to a Canonn site which is why I went searching for the vid in the 1st place probably then forgot I had to search for it. you'll find I'm one of the most sceptical people you know, I believe in nothing, there is either evidence or there isn't and misquotes, rumour and gossip do my nut in. that's why I was a bit abrupt in earlier posts, I thought it was linked on the 1st page and I'm not sure it is on DW website as I stated, I may have misremembered how I found it originally, I know it was not easy this time and I knew what I was looking for.

Disclaimer: the video is DW recounting a conversation with DB. All I have said is substantiated is this account of that conversation, nothing else. grrr.

The actual quote is:

DW: Is Raxxla in the game?
DB: Its in the game and we know where it is

DW actually says DB said Its in the game and we (pause) fdev (pause) know where it is...my understanding is that DB did not say fdev but that DW added it for clarity to show who DB meant / who he thought DB meant / to separate himself from the 'we' if this was repeated.

Not it exists as I stated, slaps wrist.

Edit: Im still watching it and in the vid DW has just mentioned that the extra galaxy (9th or 10th i cant recall) was in the original PC version of the game but he hasn't checked that out yet, can anybody confirm or deny it was in the PC version please?

Edit 2: for clarity to keep accurate info in one place:
 
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[Diplomacy] Carnegie

[Diplomacy] Carnegie
Jorki Rasalas said:
Yes, but there are some items in the list that I don’t recognise. If these were local galnet posts then they’ve long since disappeared (so we can’t find out what they were) & I can’t remember them cropping up in the two books. So it would be nice to have them explained.edit: ASC’s final list is:
Tapestry
Dark Wheel
Status Quo
Mutabilis
Incursio
Finis
Rebecca
Reclamation
Prism
Ferenchia
LTT 8740
Haoria
Premonition
COL 70
Tionisla
Reorte
Riedquat
Eulexia
Maia
Altera
Sol
Achenar
Eotienses
Varati
HR 6421
Sirius
Cemiess
Chontaiko
Cypripedum
Velum
Monile
Vestimenta
Alioth
Daibo
Exodus
Rift
Conflux
Gap
Zurara
HIP 16497
Khun
46 Eridani
Anumclaw
HIP 17519
Club
Dynasty
EDP
Gateway.

The Oolite books can be removed as filler to help complicate the cryptogram. But where do
Chontaiko
Cypripedum
Velum
Monile
Vestimenta
fit the Salomé storyline? Can’t remember those at all.

Edit: ah, apparently he had a livestream last night. I’ll check that out (2.5 hours worth😕, I’m not a fan of livestreams!)
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I know 4 of your missing 5:

Cypripedum, Velum, Monile and Vestimenta were the Imperial ships transporting Salome to the prison colony.
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
DrewCarnegie said:
I know 4 of your missing 5:

Cypripedum, Velum, Monile and Vestimenta were the Imperial ships transporting Salome to the prison colony.
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Thanks. Thought they sounded vaguely familiar but couldn’t remember them. How about the other? And there are a couple of system names that don’t ring a bell either two HIPs and a HR, Eulexia & Maia. I don’t remember Maia cropping up other than thargoid encounters there & thought was outwith the Salomé story.
 
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PeteACarter

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Vetinari said:
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AsfgQqbRKM


Its in there, a lot of good stuff and info in it as well about how Frontier may have viewed Raxxla and the Dark Wheel so I'd recommend the whole thing although anything but the conversation with DB I have just taken as background info and interesting to know.

I admit I'm a bit salty as I thought it was linked on the first page but when I looked it just went to a Canonn site which is why I went searching for the vid in the 1st place probably then forgot I had to search for it. you'll find I'm one of the most sceptical people you know, I believe in nothing, there is either evidence or there isn't and misquotes, rumour and gossip do my nut in. that's why I was a bit abrupt in earlier posts, I thought it was linked on the 1st page and I'm not sure it is on DW website as I stated, I may have misremembered how I found it originally, I know it was not easy this time and I knew what I was looking for.

Disclaimer: the video is DW recounting a conversation with DB. All I have said is substantiated is this account of that conversation, nothing else. grrr.

The actual quote is:

DW: Is Raxxla in the game?
DB: Its in the game and we know where it is

DW actually says DB said Its in the game and we (pause) fdev (pause) know where it is...my understanding is that DB did not say fdev but that DW added it for clarity to show who DB meant / who he thought DB meant / to separate himself from the 'we' if this was repeated.

Not it exists as I stated, slaps wrist.

Edit: Im still watching it and in the vid DW has just mentioned that the extra galaxy (9th or 10th i cant recall) was in the original PC version of the game but he hasn't checked that out yet, can anybody confirm or deny it was in the PC version please?

Edit 2: for clarity to keep accurate info in one place:
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This is a great watch. Thanks for posting. Yes it confirms what I thought about the quote. I was sure he never said "and we know why it's not been found" :)
He seems to strongly disagree with my theory that it's near the rift, but....

a) he is guessing as we are. I never thought it was part of what he had written
B) he hinted that there was other stuff to be found out there

Did somebody mention that MB had a book coming out? I had a quick look on Amazon but couldn't find it??
 
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