ANNOUNCEMENT Elite Dangerous: Odyssey Announcement

[Scoob101]

No that is not how FDev ever has done things. For example we see more detail on that planet in the trailer from space. Something like that will most likely be to the visual advantage of non-Odyssey owners too. The only thing is that you won't be able to set down on such a planet if it is an atmospheric world.
And I expect the stunning new tech to be mostly used for new assets down on atmospheric planets. This stuff will of course only be visible to Odyssey owners, because they have access to such planets.

If you're right, that's a significant benefit to people who don't bother to purchase Odyssey. Any commercial guy would argue that will impact your sales.

Personally, it would be great if we get significant upgrades to the base game as a consequence of odyssey, but I`m very skeptical.

 

[Arioch]

Now I will have to watch "Wanderers" again.
And I only watched it a dozen times before.

I used to watch it and think, “cor, I’d love to do that in Elite.”

When I watch it later, I’m going to think, “cor, next year maybe.”

 

[Skizomeuh]

If you're right, that's a significant benefit to people who don't bother to purchase Odyssey. Any commercial guy would argue that will impact your sales.

Personally, it would be great if we get significant upgrades to the base game as a consequence of odyssey, but I`m very skeptical.

Heh, the purpose of releasing a DLC is people buying it. So of course some features are exclusive, but that doesn't mean that technically they have to be separated entities.

Edit: quoting myself here

And furthermore you won't enjoy planets if you don't have Horizons.

Now, it could also be that after all these years they fuse Horizons (or make it free) with the base game, would help avoiding to exploe the playerbase too much and a good incentive to make people buy Odyssey.

 

[Rat Catcher]

IIRC that post more or less said that apart from the original platforms (Vive, Oculus), no new headsets will be supported for the time being, which likely means never. Do you have other info?

O7,

Sadly, no... but it was the fact that they were very specific in support for those HMD's rather than indicating their 'retirement'.
Fortunately Steam's VR overlays integrates different HMD architectures reasonably well so players launching from Steam have some benefits.

I'm just trying to remain optimistic, even in recent livestreans they were playing in VR...

 

[Scoob101]

Well in the OP post, he says : "Touch down on breathtaking planets powered by stunning new tech".

So all hopes are allowed.

If the majority of posters here are right, don't expect a star Citizen like tech - it`ll all have to run on last (current) generation console hardware. That would be an interesting limitation given FD most likely already have next-gen console dev kits, right now.

 

[Skizomeuh]

Sadly, no... but it was the fact that they were very specific in support for those HMD's rather than indicating their 'retirement'.
Fortunately Steam's VR overlays integrates different HMD architectures reasonably well so players launching from Steam have some benefits.

I'm just trying to remain optimistic, even in recent livestreans they were playing in VR...

The only thing that could prevent VR support is if Odyssey's new planet tech is too heavy on the hardware for a smooth VR experience.

 

[amigacooke]

If the majority of posters here are right, don't expect a star Citizen like tech - it`ll all have to run on last (current) generation console hardware. That would be an interesting limitation given FD most likely already have next-gen console dev kits, right now.

I'm hoping in will run on a late 2013 iMac (Windows dongle) so perhaps the stunningness is how optimised the brilliance will prove to be

 

[Patrick_68000]

"From now until launch, we'll be sharing more information, developer diaries and trailers as we get ready to embark on this exciting new adventure!"

Here is really great news.

 

[Rat Catcher]

The only thing that could prevent VR support is if Odyssey's new planet tech is too heavy on the hardware for a smooth VR experience.

We can only hope that their (already very good) optimisation skills come to the fore... or they 'borrow' whatever methods were used to make HL: Alyx from Valve

 

[who?]

More questions.... more! MORE!! (I'm like Kylo Ren screaming in The Last Jedi..)

The details mention walking on planets, and discovering settlements, but still leave it vague about entering surface buildings (I assume we can explore, but to what degree? Some of the larger ones are massive, I can't imagine they're all internally modelled).

No mention of walking inside (or on) (or under) our ships, but unless it's an instant transition from cockpit to surface, it seems likely?

No mention yet of dock / space station / carrier / megaship / generation ship exploration. They're all massive, I couldn't see these happening immediately, if ever?

They don't mention EVA, but the fact that the Cmdrs are suited and helmeted and have jetpacks/thrusters mean they're already equipped for it! Also no mention of ship boarding. Huge potential for gameplay, but also griefing. I do hope at least we can explore wrecks, salvage things, rescue people etc.

Can Cmdrs be killed by ships while in the surface? My guess is they'll just make them hard to hit with the ships weapons. If you get out of your SRV though, I guess that's a sitting duck. Can't wait to see if there are additional SRVs.

No Mechs / AT-AT walkers? Lame.

Still excited about the improved terrain.

...and that's another set of underpants ruined. Time to go Cmdr!

 

[Patrick_68000]

If the majority of posters here are right, don't expect a star Citizen like tech - it`ll all have to run on last (current) generation console hardware. That would be an interesting limitation given FD most likely already have next-gen console dev kits, right now.

Yes it is sure that Frontier must find the right compromise between the PC and the consoles.

 

[Plaid_unicorn]

I can think of at least one game that released with vr support and DLC was released without.

Resident evil 7. It was clearly advertised as such very early in the DLCs releases.

 

[Ian Skippy]

Dude, an official announcement has been made as the opening post of this thread, and the video we are all psyched by is clearly marked as being pre alpha footage of in engine graphics.

sigh

In-engine. Not in-game. That is not the same. Star Citizen has endless 'in-engine' trailers that are completely unrelated to the game itself. This is an early prototype imagining of what the engine is capable of. It need not be a representation of what it currently looks like in-game (internally) or how it will look in a year. It could be better, it could be worse, it could be anything. The video signifies the intent of FD. Not the final result. We've had NPCs walking around years ago in 'in-engine' trailers. That was to set the mood, not to promise spacelegs. Same might be here with the atmo glow. Or it might not.

We. Dont. Know.

 

[Scoob101]

Heh, the purpose of releasing a DLC is people buying it. So of course some features are exclusive, but that doesn't mean that technically they have to be separated entities.

Quite right, however, if they are indeed going down that route, you are not going to get an experience which anything close to the trailer, because it`ll have to run on current-gen console hardware. That would be a curious decision, right at the end of a console cycle

 

[MarkyH]

So Horizons is a standalone game?

Pretty much yep. As a 2015 lifetime pass holder I now have 4 logins to choose when playing, ED : Vanilla , ED : Horizons, ED : Area, and ED : Training, so there will be an ED : Odyssey too.

ED and ED: H share the same universe. Not sure what happens if an ED pirate is chasing a ED:H prey, and the prey hit planet atmoshere, i assume they just disappear from scanner until the launch again, no LW to follow.

 

[HAMM3R]

... hammer is hardly ever the best option. Just sayin'.

Uhhh, yeah.. um.. I'm gonna have to go ahead and sort of disagree with you, there.

 

[dannysquid]

The only thing that could prevent VR support is if Odyssey's new planet tech is too heavy on the hardware for a smooth VR experience.

Isn't it more likely to be all the issues with doing first-person running around in VR, where a lot of the normal solutions wouldn't be fun to implement in a multiplayer environment.

 

[Scoob101]

Yes it is sure that Frontier must find the right compromise between the PC and the consoles.

Odyssey will be the same game on all platforms, with the sliders turned up on PC.

 

[Boris76]

And NPC SRVs???

I'm a bit of a loner in this game -- I play open but alone, and always find the social aspect of cooperative play a bit too much like pressure that takes away from my fun -- but I really would like to do some ground combat against non-player enemies.

I'm glad somebody else has my play style too. There must be a lot of us out there.

 

[[PS4] Filthymick420]

The saviour himself on a pogostick, and with all due respect,

who's acting hysterically here? Take a look in the mirror. Yes, a whole lot of people are worried about lack of VR support. And? That is their OPINION, their CONCERN. Accusing them of panicking, hysteria, and doomsaying -- all three of which are, typically, derogatorally used to describe people who are emotionally unstable -- does not pour oil on troubled waters, does not defuse the situation, indeed, serves no other purpose than to go on a rant that is exactly what you are accusing us of doing. I do appreciate the irony, by the way... but I digress.

What has that to do with doomsaying, or hysteria? Many merely stated that they will not buy this product if VR is not supported. End of story. Doomsaying? Poppycock. Hysteria? Poppycock. Panicking? Double poppycock.

This has nothing to do with entitlement, or some other attempt to make VR lovers look like spoiled brats. It's simply about knowing early whether to get hyped or not. I earn my own money, I spend it the way I see fit. If I like a product, I'll buy it. If not, I'll pass. No entitlement is involved AT ALL. I'd just like this question answered, so I can either plan to get the DLC or continue with the Horizons; and, no, I'm not going to break down and cry if they do not support VR. I'm an adult, I don't go boo-hoo over things like that. (I usually try not to get personal, either, not even on the internet. I always imagine my counterpart as a 6'6" dude, built like the Hulk, covered with tattoos and a grim expression on his face, and ask myself: "Would I annoy such a guy in person?" Since I'm not suicidal, the answer must be no. Okay, I'm kidding. I try to be polite 'cause it's the right thing to do -- and that involves NOT making sweeping assumptions, as I really don't like people pointing out to me what a tool I am. That's my wife's job. )

A discussion is much like repair work: A hammer is hardly ever the best option. Just sayin'.

At what point do i imply i am the savior of anything? Your wall of text was a waste if you intended for me to read. Tjen again so is the entire arguement. No one is entitled anything except LEPs and they are only getting what fdev gives. Im only stating facts.