Yeah, I meant from our imagination (devs and customers), not from data mining.
The Quest To Find Raxxla
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YES, I AGREE WITH YOU, that should have been a EULA violation, BUT Fdev allowed that though, and the EULA does not say you cant record your acitivies in screen recordings, and by-law, if you screen record somthing, you technically own the video file and can do what you want with it, as long as not using it for commercial purposes like dj's or an event
so at best, it was a grey Zone, and Fdev obv wanted it done, so they didnt call EULA violation
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anyways, lets get back to topic, ultimately, the Moderators control the posts, and they say is a violation becuase the map was data-mined, so we have to accept that until we find out otherwise....
Raxxla... inhabited system or uninhabited?
Ideas/Opinions?
Raxxla... inhabited system or uninhabited?
Ideas/Opinions?
not 100% sure, wasnt a CMDR at the time, but im sure you can google and find out..
Uninhabited...
I'm actually not completely sold on the idea that it's near the bubble either.
Not everyone uses edsm and other third party databases and tools. I don't. I'm sure the employees who sold exploration data on those systems didn't either.
It is bought in the game via your fc.
No tricks or external cheating involved.
The amount of data varies system to permit locked system. Because the exploration data sold varied
It is bought in the game via your fc.
No tricks or external cheating involved.
The amount of data varies system to permit locked system. Because the exploration data sold varied
Im not either, never have been... and I agree most lilkely uninhabited... BUT i've been tossing around the thought that it may have a SMALL population, i.e. TDW or The Club,ect, members living on/in what ever Raxxla is?
my apologies if i have shared something that isn't allowed. even thought i dont agree that this comes even close to data-mining. the discovery was done completely by luck at first. a clueless player simply acted on his curiosity after discovering that he can buy the system map info on his fleet carrier, and tried doing that on what he thought were interresting systems to check out. throught the use of completely legitimate in-game means. friends of mine have confirmed that it is done in that way. if anything, this discovery can be seen as a bug report, a good service of the players discovering possible anomalies in the system. (that is if it wasn't really supposed to be found) but then again, theres also a bad side i guess. i cant see in any way how this would constitue an infringement of anything. but... regardless. my apologies again.
i did include a spoiler though.
i did include a spoiler though.
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I wouldn't apologise. The mod is wrong.
The buying of exploration data is no more a bug or even inside info than scan data from systems early in the game before they were permit blocked.
In the end they are worthless since you can't get the permit.
They are worthless since fdev can override the content and makeup on the systems whenever they want.
They are worthless since fdev can retcon the story (and have) whenever it suits them.
Further, I'd consider all crowd sourced databases and the reading of log files to be far more of an exploit since it very directly circumvents in game mechanics such as buying exploration and trade data. If you're going to use the exploit card, at least use it on something that actually gives you an advantage you wouldn't otherwise have.
The buying of exploration data is no more a bug or even inside info than scan data from systems early in the game before they were permit blocked.
In the end they are worthless since you can't get the permit.
They are worthless since fdev can override the content and makeup on the systems whenever they want.
They are worthless since fdev can retcon the story (and have) whenever it suits them.
Further, I'd consider all crowd sourced databases and the reading of log files to be far more of an exploit since it very directly circumvents in game mechanics such as buying exploration and trade data. If you're going to use the exploit card, at least use it on something that actually gives you an advantage you wouldn't otherwise have.
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It was clearly not data-mined but found out by normal game mechanics even if devs forgot to tweak carriers. Until they state that it is an unintended exploit or just simple remove it, it is not a bug because it does not anyhow confine under that definition.
and in other news, galnet seems to be back strong with the staggering amount of 1 articles for all of us free tinfoiled pilots to read and enjoy. i bet theres SOME link between those Nanomedicines and raxxla in there somewhere.... or is there? after all. it's not all fluff anymore.
sigh...the truth is, we've been dried out of content for so long, that we tinfoiled about pretty much everything at this point. i thought this would be some nice new and refreshing meals for us to munch on, even if it ended up being completely a hoax. imagine all the tinfoil goodies we could have extracted from that. thats a fresh new LEAD watson
after all, you know what they say. if it got deleted, it propably was ...cough cough ... brb my cat needs me
sigh...the truth is, we've been dried out of content for so long, that we tinfoiled about pretty much everything at this point. i thought this would be some nice new and refreshing meals for us to munch on, even if it ended up being completely a hoax. imagine all the tinfoil goodies we could have extracted from that. thats a fresh new LEAD watson
after all, you know what they say. if it got deleted, it propably was ...cough cough ... brb my cat needs me
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Ozric
Volunteer Moderator
I am not saying one specific thing was. I did not read it and do not know what the issue with that particular system is.
It appears that you would have all preferred me to use different wording when asking you not to discuss it, but it is a blanket term that I personally use for information gathered in a way that should not be possible to gather it.
The only thing I will say, from my point of view, is that I think it's very likely the majority of those systems had already been explored before they were permit locked. But it's just my thought. It's the weekend, I certainly haven't spoken to anyone at Frontier
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If you feel I've done something wrong then feel free to contact the CM team.
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and in other news, galnet seems to be back strong with the staggering amount of 1 articles for all of us free tinfoiled pilots to read and enjoy. i bet theres SOME link between those Nanomedicines and raxxla in there somewhere.... or is there? after all. it's not all fluff anymore.
sigh...the truth is, we've been dried out of content for so long, that we tinfoiled about pretty much everything at this point. i thought this would be some nice new and refreshing meals for us to munch on, even if it ended up being completely a hoax. imagine all the tinfoil goodies we could have extracted from that. thats a fresh new LEAD watson
twas the nanomachines all along. snake. snake. SNAAKE.
The only thing I will say, from my point of view, is that I think it's very likely the majority of those systems had already been explored before they were permit locked. But it's just my thought. It's the weekend, I certainly haven't spoken to anyone at Frontier
to be fair, i think there could be some truth to what you say. there is a possibility that those screenshots were taken way before, as they clearly redacted the dates from their screenshots. they did provide a plausible reason for why they did so however. but i find it strange, that many other players reported the same thing, they were able to recreate the same exact process on their end, some of wich are friends i trust. but we never know these days.
im afraid though, that you used more than just "wording" and "asking us" not to discuss it in this case. and you did it without checking what the issue was with the system in question.
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Arguendo
Volunteer Moderator
FYI: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/forum-rules-and-guidelines-23-may-2016.251032/
Feel free to move on from that subject
Feel free to move on from that subject
I thought it was an eminently sensible idea!
No. A sound recording was enough. Run it in Audacity and the map pops up.
I wasn't aware the game included audacity and a ui interface to record and playback audio in it. Is it only accessible in cqc?
It still isn’t data mining.