The Quest To Find Raxxla

[Jorki Rasalas]

That would be AWESOME ! Would love to see the Dubious Profit make an appearance !!!

Edit: Although Im starting to wonder if its a hint that the Galactic Summit is in for some unwelcome visitors... (Not just Archon Delane)

The number of goids massing in the Coalsack indicate something is seriously afoot claw? Tentacle? As it is happening at the same time as the Galactic Summit I suspect that is the target, everyone will be massacred and it will be the start of the Major Goid war which humanity will lose and be pushed out of the bubble as foretold by soothsayer many moons ago. Goodbye Aisling! Condemned to a fate worse than death as the plaything of a tentacled fiend? Mental images of Princess Leya in the cave of Jabba the Hutt
Might make RXxla Questing a bit tricky henceforth!
Ooh, that’s interesting. Mistyped Raxxla above and the autocorrect wants to put in Rbxla. What’s that when it’s at home? Is DB a Scrabble addict?

 

[Rochester]

Morning star

Now let’s see, what’s the next step on the ancient map made of human skin...

On a similar subject, who recalls the ‘rock’ cult of the Alpha days...it was a spoof on something MB and DB discussed at that time, during which they were gearing up for launch and publishing concept artwork...probably nothing, just wanted to review it and see if anything was stated by these two which could link back to Sol / Raxxla.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

The 32 segments displayed in orrery view where the asteroid belt should be in Sol are not unique to sol, they are pretty common and occur in systems adjacent to sol even.

Yes, thanks for the clarification. I thought I had updated my “Sol in Raxxla” theory post to avoid misleading people on that point, but I don’t think I made it sufficiently clear and have just updated it again accordingly.

However it does raise a further question- for these “sectored asteroid belt” depictions in other systems is it possible to actually find the asteroids? In Sol it is not possible. You can detect an “asteroid cluster” in the left hud display but when you drop out of SC nothing is there even though that “asteroid cluster” is still showing in the hud. Spaceman Spiff also spotted that in Sol if you fss then a count of 8 is shown against the asteroid part of the spectrum window but there is no signal there by which you could locate them. Is this behaviour unique to Sol?? If unique then it is suggestive when coupled with the possible visual resemblance in Greek of “Gallia” to the word “Raxxla” since there is IRL an asteroid named 148 Gallia (as others have pointed out many times).

 

[SilentAssassin82]

what about Vesper?

 

[Vetinari]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1368981108176678912

Source: https://twitter.com/EliteDangerous/status/1368981108176678912/photo/1


finally found it Is it a new Thargoid called Hesperus?

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Good catch - though i detest twitter

Might think about the Wreck of the Hesperus as well... didnt see any Normans Woe... but there is a Normans Folly in Guanggi...

Is that a new type of Goid? Not an AX expert, but not noticed the “Velcro loops” on their backs before

I suspect Hesperus will be a ship being/attacked by goids and part of the next mystery...

 

[Koben]

However it does raise a further question- for these “sectored asteroid belt” depictions in other systems is it possible to actually find the asteroids? In Sol it is not possible. You can detect an “asteroid cluster” in the left hud display but when you drop out of SC nothing is there even though that “asteroid cluster” is still showing in the hud. Spaceman Spiff also spotted that in Sol if you fss then a count of 8 is shown against the asteroid part of the spectrum window but there is no signal there by which you could locate them. Is this behaviour unique to Sol?? If unique then it is suggestive when coupled with the possible visual resemblance in Greek of “Gallia” to the word “Raxxla” since there is IRL an asteroid named 148 Gallia (as others have pointed out many times).

The reason it's hard to find the actual asteroids, is because we're dropping at the "asteroid belt region" (remember we're not targeting/locking on the signal source) and this might be the clue for it.... the search area is a flat disc about 650ls long and positioned in between Jupiter and Mars orbits.

If we fly in normal space close enough to the actual asteroid cluster we may find the rocks... or maybe a hidden station, a dredger... but it is worth going there and fly around honking until we find something.

Yesterday I was passing by it again and the speed in SuperCruise started to drop whilst over the Asteroid Belt region (gravitational pull), decided to drop to normal space, but again, the search area is just massive.

So, let's us meet next Sunday and we can focus the search on the Asteroid Belt region.

Cheers!

 

[Han_Zen]

The reason it's hard to find the actual asteroids, is because we're dropping at the "asteroid belt region" (remember we're not targeting/locking on the signal source) and this might be the clue for it.... the search area is a flat disc about 650ls long and positioned in between Jupiter and Mars orbits.

If we fly in normal space close enough to the actual asteroid cluster we may find the rocks... or maybe a hidden station, a dredger... but it is worth going there and fly around honking until we find something.

Yesterday I was passing by it again and the speed in SuperCruise started to drop whilst over the Asteroid Belt region (gravitational pull), decided to drop to normal space, but again, the search area is just massive.

So, let's us meet next Sunday and we can focus the search on the Asteroid Belt region.

Cheers!

Asteroid clusters are often way of the disk in the system map orrery. The disk is just a schematic visualisation. There are RL asteroids that are more than 30 degrees of the average plane.
Searching up and down from the disk, may be smart?

 

[Koben]

Asteroid clusters are often way of the disk in the system map orrery. The disk is just a schematic visualisation. There are RL asteroids that are more than 30 degrees of the average plane.
Searching up and down from the disk, may be smart?

I'm not using the Orrery map for this... but the lower left Box on your main screen that shows your current location. As far I'm aware of, for every body/asteroid/star there's a "location zone" where the actual target containing the signal source spawns. For instance, several light seconds before you reach any planet you'll seen on this box its name stating that you are "in its zone".

There's a similar game mechanic whenever you're flying over a planet's surface and a blue circle appears indicating something will spawn there whenever you het close enough... and at the very begining of the game, the very same mechanic of a blue circle on your radar indicating a signal source was also how we'd drop from SuperCruise to normal space to find random stuff. Today we have the "unkown signal source" to lock on. Maybe some long forgotten manually added mistery is still using this original game mechanic.

But hey, if you have any specific direction you wanna fly towards to, we're all here testing theories... even these Tetha 7 and Theta 12 from Adamastor mistery may be an indication of spherical coordinates (angles) to find something we're still missing... so, once again, welcome aboard!

 

[Rochester]

Anyone tried calculating some of the larger asteroids locations based on ED dates, or just their actual current locations. FD plotted the Voyager probes somewhat correctly, if these are in game, and not obfuscated or trapped inside Sol via a bug, would’ve FD lovingly hand place them - where they are supposed to be.

And on similar subject anyone tried using the primary version 1 module scanner (eyes) by flying out of system and looking for oddities... sorry can’t access game at present, so living ED vicariously through others.

 

[clavain]

Anyone tried calculating some of the larger asteroids locations based on ED dates, or just their actual current locations. FD plotted the Voyager probes somewhat correctly, if these are in game, and not obfuscated or trapped inside Sol via a bug, would’ve FD lovingly hand place them - where they are supposed to be.

And on similar subject anyone tried using the primary version 1 module scanner (eyes) by flying out of system and looking for oddities... sorry can’t access game at present, so living ED vicariously through others.

Stellarium could be useful for this maybe? Not sure which, if any of the asteroids it may track though. You can even change the date in it to get the predicted position for any year/date, including ED years, and the view from a specific location IIRC.

 

[clavain]

But hey, if you have any specific direction you wanna fly towards to, we're all here testing theories... even these Tetha 7 and Theta 12 from Adamastor mistery may be an indication of spherical coordinates (angles) to find something we're still missing... so, once again, welcome aboard!

Yes ,welcome aboard Han Zen!

Pssst - don't encourage his theories. ;-) ;-) ;-)

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Yes, thanks for the clarification. I thought I had updated my “Sol in Raxxla” theory post to avoid misleading people on that point, but I don’t think I made it sufficiently clear and have just updated it again accordingly.

However it does raise a further question- for these “sectored asteroid belt” depictions in other systems is it possible to actually find the asteroids? In Sol it is not possible. You can detect an “asteroid cluster” in the left hud display but when you drop out of SC nothing is there even though that “asteroid cluster” is still showing in the hud. Spaceman Spiff also spotted that in Sol if you fss then a count of 8 is shown against the asteroid part of the spectrum window but there is no signal there by which you could locate them. Is this behaviour unique to Sol?? If unique then it is suggestive when coupled with the possible visual resemblance in Greek of “Gallia” to the word “Raxxla” since there is IRL an asteroid named 148 Gallia (as others have pointed out many times).

Yep, went and checked it out right away yesterday. I am of course a little annoyed that I didn't get it right in my original post... thanks for speaking up, Stalker
Happily, this changes nothing with the logic of the argument, simply removes the uniqueness.... and in turn, actually strengthens the overall argument. The 32-segment discs and rings (rings when it is a narrow asteroid belt) clearly denote asteroid belts throughout the game.


A: You can locate the asteroids in all other systems, target them, and fly to them, and
B: No other system that I have found so far allows me to drop into a "HUD visual" asteroid field displayed in the HUD. The graphic is reserved for the targetable asteroid clusters. Sol's asteroid field is "disc wide" so far as I can tell, there is not a single place where it doesn't exist relating to the disc. Again, for anyone that may have missed it, you simply have to be within the 32-segment area and put yourself at the system plane.

This whole line of inquiry has certainly only strengthened my resolve that they're there somewhere. So again we are basically told that there IS an asteroid belt, our FSS scanners back that up by telling us there are asteroids IN that belt, and now go find them

 

[Han_Zen]

Yes ,welcome aboard Han Zen!

Pssst - don't encourage his theories. ;-) ;-) ;-)

If anything is naturally in the asteroid belt, it has to be in orbit. Regular coordinates wouldn't work, unless you can figure out a time variable.

If the three arcs in the Raxxla symbol means asteroids, it could indicate Trojans based on the 120 degree separation? In that case we are one a planets orbit. Not in the asteroid field.

Earth has only two known Trojans. Mars has a handfull and Jupiter has a bunch. Neptun has a bunch to.

My favourite is 5261 Eureka (Mars Trojan L5)

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Also found some fun supporting theory last night. "for those with eyes to see" has been nagging me the entire time. I finally persisted in my search last night, and it seems it may have paid off. That line is in literature written by Paolo Coelho, who wrote "The Alchemist." The Alchemist is a story about someone who goes on a journey for a great treasure, and on the road to find it he discovers many wonderful things, and ultimately that the treasure was actually buried at the place he left from.
Here is a link to a quick youtube reading of the story with some lovely pictures, about 7 minutes.

So the connections I immediately make are:
The Alchemist : the story of a journey : A journey everyone must make for themselves.
Treasure is buried at the start : Mankind heads out across the galaxy looking for amazing things, but the white whale of treasures is actually in Sol.
Coelho is used 26 times in naming stations. This is even more significant than it would usually be in that Paolo Coehlo is not an astronomer, and yet is prominent enough in DB's mind to have many stations named after him. I feel this is a clear sign that it plays a specific role.
(There is at least one minor astronomer named Coelho that may warrant a small share of these station names, but despite possibly sharing some of this ownership the logic still stands. I will continue to poke around and see if any more & prominent astronomy-related figures pop up, but so far none)


Completely unnecessary backup, flogging a dead horse as far as I'm concerned, but a fun little additional theory nonetheless.

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Alternatively.... Raxxla is in the starter area.... lol! (I do not currently believe this at all)
Coelho station in the starter area : beginning of a journey?
Which, of course, I needed to look into for fun.... So I started up my Xbox last night since it's free on GamePass now.... found nothing, but did notice one more thing that made me go "hmmmm"... an empty system, named Lia Fail. "Stone of Destiny" in Irish. Ugh. I hate you right now, Fdev. I searched the system with only 2 stars for a bit, nothing (of course). So I put it to you guys, I feel like there is no way they would put it in the starter area, right?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

If anything is naturally in the asteroid belt, it has to be in orbit. Regular coordinates wouldn't work, unless you can figure out a time variable.

If the three arcs in the Raxxla symbol means asteroids, it could indicate Trojans based on the 120 degree separation? In that case we are one a planets orbit. Not in the asteroid field.

Earth has only two known Trojans. Mars has a handfull and Jupiter has a bunch. Neptun has a bunch to.

My favourite is 5261 Eureka (Mars Trojan L5)

We (or I) don't believe that the Lagrange points are in play so far. There are actually 3 of them on Jupiter's orbit, perfect for the symbol, but searches have come up fruitless so far.

 

[clavain]

Also found some fun supporting theory last night. "for those with eyes to see" has been nagging me the entire time. I finally persisted in my search last night, and it seems it may have paid off. That line is in literature written by Paolo Coelho, who wrote "The Alchemist." The Alchemist is a story about someone who goes on a journey for a great treasure, and on the road to find it he discovers many wonderful things, and ultimately that the treasure was actually buried at the place he left from.
Here is a link to a quick youtube reading of the story with some lovely pictures, about 7 minutes.

So the connections I immediately make are:
Paolo Coelho : Coelho station in the starter area : beginning of a journey
The Alchemist : the story of a journey : A journey everyone must make for themselves
Treasure is back at the start : We headed out far and wide looking for treasure but it's really at the starting line: Raxxla is in Sol

Completely unnecessary backup, flogging a dead horse as far as I'm concerned, but a fun little theory nonetheless

Alternatively.... Raxxla is in the starter area.... lol!
Which, of course, I need to look into for fun (I don't believe at all it's there, but...).... So I started up my Xbox last night since it's free on GamePass now.... found nothing, but did notice one more thing that made me go "hmmmm"... an empty system, named Lia Fail. "Stone of Destiny" in Irish. Ugh. I hate you right now, Fdev. I searched the system with only 2 stars for a bit, nothing (of course). So I put it to you guys, I feel like there is no way they would put it in the starter area, right?

Starter zones did not exist until very recently though so can likely rule that bit out. There were always certain starter systems (different from the current ones I believe) though, with no access limitations. LHS 3447, LHS 1914, Aiabiko, LTT 15449, Cosi, Chemaku, Cheneti, Eranin, HIP 21280, possibly others.

 

[SergMx]

Starter zones did not exist until very recently though so can likely rule that bit out. There were always certain starter systems (different from the current ones I believe) though, with no access limitations.

The division of the galaxy into sectors and the record about Raxxla were not either.

I keep forgetting to ask, how many of these sectors are in the galaxy?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Starter zones did not exist until very recently though so can likely rule that bit out. There were always certain starter systems (different from the current ones I believe) though, with no access limitations.

Not to mention they are permit-locked. And half are empty, and nothing would make sense at all (I think). I just kinda threw that in so if anyone had thoughts on why that WOULD work, we wouldn't pass over it

 

[SergMx]

Also found some fun supporting theory last night. "for those with eyes to see" has been nagging me the entire time. I finally persisted in my search last night, and it seems it may have paid off. That line is in literature written by Paolo Coelho, who wrote "The Alchemist." The Alchemist is a story about someone who goes on a journey for a great treasure, and on the road to find it he discovers many wonderful things, and ultimately that the treasure was actually buried at the place he left from.
Here is a link to a quick youtube reading of the story with some lovely pictures, about 7 minutes.

So the connections I immediately make are:
Paolo Coelho : Coelho station in the starter area : beginning of a journey
The Alchemist : the story of a journey : A journey everyone must make for themselves
Treasure is back at the start : We headed out far and wide looking for treasure but it's really at the starting line: Raxxla is in Sol

Completely unnecessary backup, flogging a dead horse as far as I'm concerned, but a fun little theory nonetheless

Alternatively.... Raxxla is in the starter area.... lol!
Which, of course, I need to look into for fun (I don't believe at all it's there, but...).... So I started up my Xbox last night since it's free on GamePass now.... found nothing, but did notice one more thing that made me go "hmmmm"... an empty system, named Lia Fail. "Stone of Destiny" in Irish. Ugh. I hate you right now, Fdev. I searched the system with only 2 stars for a bit, nothing (of course). So I put it to you guys, I feel like there is no way they would put it in the starter area, right?

Return to the starting point ? Is that a wheel? After the 8th galaxy in Elite 1 you would go back to the 1st galaxy.