When did space installations come into game? I’m assuming “in the beginning” it was just astronomical bodies, ships and stations/outposts, then with Horizons we got surface outposts etc. Or am I wrong? Were installations in-game from the outset??
 
When did space installations come into game? I’m assuming “in the beginning” it was just astronomical bodies, ships and stations/outposts, then with Horizons we got surface outposts etc. Or am I wrong? Were installations in-game from the outset??
IF Raxxla was in game since the beginning, neither space installations nor surface outposts were presents.
AFAIK, there were the 3 types of stations already present (coriolis, orbis and ocellus).
 
That’s what I thought, but need confirmation from people with better memory and longer experience than me! 😉

Was thinking- the codex Raxxla entry implies “an alien artefact, the Omphalos Rift, described as a gatewayor tunnel” may be the way to Raxxla. And the “evil men who are exploiting Raxxla” may have disguised the tunnel in an installation, since stations dont have tunnels. Space installations are riddled with tunnels-I’ve spent a few days flying through some. Still not found it.

The question then becomes would FD have changed the implementation so it was only accessible in Horizons? I lean against that possibility.
 
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That’s what I thought, but need confirmation from people with better memory and longer experience than me! 😉

Was thinking- the codex Raxxla entry implies “an alien artefact, the Omphalos Rift, described as a gatewayor tunnel” may be the way to Raxxla. And the “evil men who are exploiting Raxxla” may have disguised the tunnel in an installation, since stations dont have tunnels. Space installations are riddled with tunnels-I’ve spent a few days flying through some. Still not found it.

The question then becomes would FD have changed the implementation so it was only accessible in Horizons? I lean against that possibility.
Also they changed the Salome Anaconda to a egaship whos not to say Raxxla was also a placeholder until now (or may infact still be)
 
We have had the various types of "Outposts" from the beginning as well - but I think the "Installations" came about after CQC was introduced? ...I think.... Outgrowth of that specialized Installation they created for it - at least that is what the cobwebs are whispering to me. Its when I think i first noticed them. - So ya Id guess sometime at or after 1.4
 
Are you talking about the Zurara?
Yes, according to Drew the Zurara was originally a derelict Anaconda but when FD brought in megaships they upgraded Zurara to be a megaship. Just improved the visuals, didn't change the storyline.

I think if FD had upgraded Raxxla it would be done similarly, so basically what we’re looking for should be compatible with a planet/star/moon/BH/station/outpost/ship. The visuals may have changed but not the functionality. (Edit: still think Raxxla might be a Guardian arkship, so a spherical ship... possibly moon-sized)

Currently working on a new hypothesis. If it works out I’ll send a postcard, though inter-galactic mail is likely to be slow if it’s anything like local Royal Mail, who seem to have cut deliveries to about twice a week, IF they have sufficient post for an area to justify getting out of their nice warm sorting office...
 
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We have had the various types of "Outposts" from the beginning as well - but I think the "Installations" came about after CQC was introduced? ...I think.... Outgrowth of that specialized Installation they created for it - at least that is what the cobwebs are whispering to me. Its when I think i first noticed them. - So ya Id guess sometime at or after 1.4

It was the other way around... "Installations" came on the later half of Horizons and they brought these CQC assets to the main game.
 
When did space installations come into game? I’m assuming “in the beginning” it was just astronomical bodies, ships and stations/outposts, then with Horizons we got surface outposts etc. Or am I wrong? Were installations in-game from the outset??
It would be strange if Raxxla was based on any type of human built object. There could of course be a human installation on or in orbit around Raxxla, where the wicked Elites hang out.
Things like that may well have been updated with better assets, over time.
 
It would be strange if Raxxla was based on any type of human built object. There could of course be a human installation on or in orbit around Raxxla, where the wicked Elites hang out.
Things like that may well have been updated with better assets, over time.
I was thinking more along the lines that a human agency might have built a human installation around the Omphalos, so unless you entered the right tunnel then nothing would happen- one possible explanation of why it hasnt been found, and also why (if true) a pilot might have entered the system, honked and left
 
I was thinking more along the lines that a human agency might have built a human installation around the Omphalos, so unless you entered the right tunnel then nothing would happen- one possible explanation of why it hasnt been found, and also why (if true) a pilot might have entered the system, honked and left
The only things we could honked at ED's earlier days was:
  • Stars
  • Planets
  • Rings
  • Stations

Now if you think it can be hidden in installation tunnels, look for military ones. They have a warning zone if you enter it.
 
It would be strange if Raxxla was based on any type of human built object. There could of course be a human installation on or in orbit around Raxxla, where the wicked Elites hang out.
Things like that may well have been updated with better assets, over time.
I am still not sure it is safe to say the installations are human-made. Here me out with this..

-There are no landing pads ANYWHERE on these things.
-There is ZERO EVIDENCE of human habitation.
-Installations are, however, strategically important.
-We are only assuming given the names they are human.

Remember my idea about the Talmor Lens network from the Alien World being at least part of the whole mystery. Well, these installations have a habit of really only appearing historically significant and especially mythologically named systems. The human lore only mentions explicitly: Orbis, Coriolis, Ocellus, outposts, planetary ports, and planetary settlements. Anything outside of that should be treated with high degree of skepticism.

For all we know, we stumbled on these things in the black and repurposed them or at least put enough decorations to make people think they are human designed (though they look like nothing human built). May I remind you, with the installations in Sol, they are way the hell in the black (as in Pluto or much further even).
 
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I was thinking more along the lines that a human agency might have built a human installation around the Omphalos, so unless you entered the right tunnel then nothing would happen- one possible explanation of why it hasnt been found, and also why (if true) a pilot might have entered the system, honked and left
If the honk story is tru, that system is fully scanned and mapped by now. That story is old.

Even if the story is false, it’s more and more likely that Raxxla is in a fully mapped system.
 
If the honk story is tru, that system is fully scanned and mapped by now. That story is old.

Even if the story is false, it’s more and more likely that Raxxla is in a fully mapped system.
Based on the 2296 start of the rumor, based on the Tau Ceti tourist beacon discovery happened sometime between 2159 (Tau Ceti self-sufficiency) and 2296. Now this was the slow expansion period (generation ships and the beginning of megaships from large corporations and governments with the very first "slow hyperspace" drives (hours to weeks between systems). So, it is near Sol and there are few options that allow for much else. Even hyperspace probes would get so far they couldn't retransmit in time for the rumor to get going by 2296 unless you invoke faster than light communications. We didn't Faraway until 2800 (which is centuries after Raxxla myth goes mainstream).

Source: https://canonn.science/lore/drewwagar-hyperspace/
 
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If the honk story is tru, that system is fully scanned and mapped by now. That story is old.

Even if the story is false, it’s more and more likely that Raxxla is in a fully mapped system.
Agreed and i'm sure about 2 things:
  • either Raxxla is in an asteroid belt (how many people really visited them?, Now with the Great Raxxla Potato Hunt, nothing can go through radars but there are a lot of systems to scan).
  • Raxxla is not implemented in game. I mean either fdev lied to us or we need to first contact TDW and the missions are broken => so Raxxla is unaccessible.

We just need to wait players to fully scan all the asteroid belts.

While i'm writing this i just remember: the pulse wave analizer was at original state used for scan asteroids AND anomalies. But the release of the PWA were at same time as the Codex?
 
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