Just a note, Raxxla was apparently in Elite....Alpha Hydri system was always a game crash system and the only system in the game not able to enter to look at or take logs from, Now Elite Dangerous Alpha Hydri permit locked since gamma due to another crash that happened when released (Everyone flocked there as they couldn't in Elite and though hmmm)...see the pattern
There's a lot that was in the old games that is still lurking if you know where to look. That being said, there are four systems from Frontiers that I cannot find in Elite Dangerous. One or more may have been blown to bits by way of Jackson's Lighthouse (it formerly was Federal system before two stars merged to form the neutron star). I need to check when exactly Charick Drift formed. With Jackson's Lighthouse it was 2672.
 
There's a lot that was in the old games that is still lurking if you know where to look. That being said, there are four systems from Frontiers that I cannot find in Elite Dangerous. One or more may have been blown to bits by way of Jackson's Lighthouse (it formerly was Federal system before two stars merged to form the neutron star). I need to check when exactly Charick Drift formed. With Jackson's Lighthouse it was 2672.
Jacksons cave is a mystery in itself, you can search it but no one has found it yet...its in there...somewhere, we found Haleys comet though so people are getting there
 
I don't think any in-game thing is expected to be found using out-of-game tools

Just saying, we already know this to be wrong and untrue. Fdev has already atleast once required the use of out of game tools. And that's just what we know of.

The Thargoid sound map is just a perfect example.

There are still, today, absolutely no tools, in game, to decode thier "sounds-scape" or "map" from the thargoids.
That required, 100% the use of not only outside tools, but a technical breach of the EULA as well. But Fdev wanted it to be that way. And it also basically made it impossible for Xbox/PS players to find the answers, as we cannot get data from the game, logs, ect, from our consoles. (Well not very easily)

So it's very possible that we need to use things, calculations, maps, star charts, who knows, from out of the game, to find the answer to an ingame question....

Also, I cant remember if it was MB or DB or who... but I seem to vaguely remember someone from Fdev specifically hinting about needing to use outside tools as well, and that's how users discovered the thargoid sound map, until then they hadn't tried outside tools with it being a risk to breach of EULA.
 
Also, I cant remember if it was MB or DB or who... but I seem to vaguely remember someone from Fdev specifically hinting about needing to use outside tools as well, and that's how users discovered the thargoid sound map, until then they hadn't tried outside tools with it being a risk to breach of EULA.
Technically speaking, you can put phone near speakers with running sound analyzer and it will show that image, no need to break something.
And that was only once too.
 
Nope no luck whit Jacksons cave. tryed to find it like whit the Comets but no luck. tryed to hunt down a strange Sound that i not hear in any other System, No luck either (It seems to be attached to the JetCone however). I have spend days in Jackson's Light House found nothing. Was convinced that finding it would tell me something on how Raxxla can be found.
But i am on fire now whit the "Sell the right Exploration Data to the right faction" thing. i have some systems in mind :sneaky:
 
I think I need to share something because in a single GalNet I just had a huge epiphany (and it means pretty much everything I was thinking on this may be right). GalNet in question seems innocent enough but holy heck is it important. The GalNet is entitled "Controversy at Film Festival" and it's from 03 August 3305. Here's the relevant bit:

The Alliance Tribune’s cultural correspondent Corinne Macintyre offered these details:

“A grand celebration of cinematic art took place at George Lucas station, featuring a wide range of traditional and interactive media from dozens of systems.”

“The talking point was undoubtedly ‘Unity’, a historical drama from award-winning director Hal Raskin. It portrays Alliance founders Mic Turner and Meredith Argent as rivals who faked their romance to rally political support.”

“More traditionalist audiences – and not a few critics – took issue with the suggestion that the couple’s love was fraudulent, while others applauded it as bold and challenging. But this lively debate did nothing to dampen spirits at the event, which drew appreciative crowds.”

----

So, why exactly is this important? The Jedi Marriage Law:

Marriages could be dissolved through divorce. In the Jedi Order, emotional attachment and possession were forbidden because they could lead to jealousy and fear of loss, and ultimately the dark side of the Force; for that reason, Jedi were not allowed to marry.

What this means:

CMDRs are the Jedi of the Elite Dangerous universe. More specifically, the Dark Wheel and The Club are two names for the same entity: Elite Pilots' Federation. You cannot get invited, because you are already a member (albeit novitiate unless you are amongst the Elite). This also means all the superpowers are lipstick on a pig to convince the populace and the uninitiated CMDRs (keep in mind even the Duvals had CMDRs amongst them). The Club is real and you're all part of it (whether you are independent, Federal, Imperial, or Alliance aligned). The Club is highest ranking members of the Pilot's Federation which are all part of the Elite Pilots' Federation. In fact, there aren't actually separate superpowers. It's all an illusion of choice. There is no free will because The Pilot's Federation is the unitarian government over everything. This is why those white stations are important. They are the regional headquaters of The Pilot's Federation and by connection the Elite Pilot's Federation. Which only goes to reaffirm my suspicions that Raxxla is in Facece (home of INRA/A.E.G.I.S./Imperial Navy/whatever is the current term for the organization) orbiting one of the moons of the gas giant/y-class brown dwarf that is body 6 of the system. It's less than 10 lightyears from Achernar and considering the joint operation was called the "Intergalactic Naval Reserve Arm" it makes perfect since why it would be called intergalactic. That being said, we're all part of INRA, too. If you look at both Federation and Empire we aren't really those ranks - we're auxiliary (or reserve) members of the Federal Navy or Imperial Navy:

Federal Navy Auxiliary | Federal Navy Ranks

Imperial Navy Auxiliary | Imperial Navy Ranks

This is why INRA was called the Intergalactic Naval Reserve Arm. We, the CMDRs, are INRA/The Club/The Dark Wheel/etc. It's all different names for the same group.

All the old lore is legit. The Club and Raxxla were canon from the get go. They hid who they were since they run all the governments of humanity.

One final thing if you don't believe me that it really could this damn simple I challenge you to come up with a viable explanation for the site that announced the launch of the BGS had the clues about given in programming language known as "brainf***" - see Wikipedia (forums will not let me post this link).

Transport Lakon Baker Gamma Sierra Heavy
 
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Jaques Station also originated in this system, whose gas giant / y-class brown dwarf does have 8 moons. It is the only Orbis type starport to have active drives...that allowed it to move after construction, as all other Orbis are stationary after completion.

One possible solution to where the Dark Wheel station is/was... may be that it is/was Jaques Station, it is never stated if it was brand new, or simply an older station from that system?

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https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-9692839
 
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Jaques Station also originated in this system. It is the only Orbis type station to have drives... one possible soloution to where the Dark Wheel station is/was... may be that it is/was Jaques Station.... as Jaques re-appropriated an out of date / delapidated station...?

Well, if you find a station with a Tesla Roadster (along with any of the still missing thefts) ... that is their station. The Interplanetary Roadtrip beacon in Sol hints that it was stolen.
 
‘The earliest documented reference to Raxxla dates to 2296’.

‘its existence is evidence that the Raxxla legend was already in the public consciousness by that time.’

So up to 2296, the myth first appears; that’s someplace between Tau Ceti and all those systems colonised up to that point (and those between) may hold Raxxla. The question is which.

I’m currently locked out of the game due to my primary account being subject to a hardware crash, I’m still attempting to get ED to re-install; but this assumption is where I am at present.

If we can draw comparisons between these locations and others of import (star constellations, narrative elements, generation ships, systems types etc) I wonder if they correlate?

It’s a large area, but remember upto 2296 many of the systems which had not been colonised by that point would have been in ‘uncharted’ territory. And ships would attempt direct line travel (or as close as possible) so the sphere of influence may be much narrower.

The date is our only primary clue (if it’s meant as a clue); and temporal / astrological mapping ought to draw up a hemisphere of influence for us to focus upon.
But Raxxla may not be in any of those colonised systems, it could be in any system visited during the human expansion to those colonies, or nearby but beyond that bubble. I think the 2296 date is intended to set a limit on the search radius, the radius being defined by those colonies. IIRC it was just before Achenar was colonised, which means Achenar had been discovered & explored by then, which sets the search radius at around 95 ly (going from memory, with only half a mug of breakfast coffee imbibed so far, so the little grey cells are only half awake!).

This to me is the likeliest intention of that first rumour date. So it (or perhaps the start of the “storyline” to find it) could be anywhere within ~100ly of Sol. The huge proviso to that hypothesis is that people had started long distance exploration trips of the galaxy even at gamma release (when I think the galaxy was opened up to everyone, before that it was limited to a small alpha/beta galactic test bubble). Now ED started in 3300, long after the 2296 first rumour date, so I dont think that test bubble is relevant BUT Raxxla could also be anywhere that had been visited and the pilot had successfully returned to sell the data to UC ( assuming FD have been strictly logical about its placement). The search radius could be increased if you took the furthest system position from Sol that existed in the original game (using ED distances), since that was really where the legend of Raxxla started...

So, the only thing we know for sure is that its probably alien (DW statement that it was covered in the alien lore book which has not been released or leaked to us), hence likely either Guardian or Thargoid. Given the preponderance of the triangular motif in the UC screen and very brief (IMHO deliberate obscuration, perhaps a little bit obvious!) appearance in the ship’s nav panel, and similarity between that triangular motif and Guardian symbology, I am firmly convinced Raxxla is Guardian technology. Ram Tah’s decodes showed that Guardians were a space faring race that bioengineered races they encountered (often for hunting and eating!). Given the triangular motif in PF-controlled ship systems there is still a strong possibility lorewise that human evolution was engineered by the Guardians (wether as food, or as anti-Thargoid measure, or perhaps as successors; note to self, must watch Children of Dune on Netflix!) leading to the hypotheses that Raxxla is either in Sol or in Shinrarta Dezhra (PF HQ). This is all very tentative reasoning based on little supporting evidence. We also have Ram Tah’s statement that they had ark ships, so Raxxla could be one of those, now degraded by cosmic dust fall to resemble a moon, or engineered by the human cabal who control it into a human artefact such as a space station or installation (the latter have tunnels, for no sensible reason, which might be the omphalos).

Personally, following my “hunt the princess” storyline hypothesis, I’m still stuck on Aurora Astrum, desultorily searching in the dark (very long rotation period) for something that looks like an omphalos, losing interest and beginning to investigate an alternative (& ludicrously buggy) universe in SC.

Edit: TDW originated from the very earliest days of space exploration, which implies based in Sol. And yes, I’m also suspicious of Jacque’s journeying. I think most Orbis have engines- they’re the big things at the back! 😉 but his journeying was suspiciously highlighted in Galnet, and his long life means he probably has some knowledge not available to us. He could indeed be part of/the originator behind TDW. This is another reason I decided to follow my “hunt the princess” hypothesis- Aurora Astrum is only 27 ly or so from him. Barkeeps hear many secrets, he could have heard of a strange discovery then guided the Rxxla rumour. IIRC the station he inhabits started out in a system near Achenar.

Edit2: but I agree that the system permits suspicious, there doesnt seem to me be sufficient reason to justify them from any of the descriptions/lore. Certainly fits with a cabal controlling Raxxla. Cant remember any problems from the first game, but it is a long time ago. One thing that struck me though was Van Maanen’s Star. I mentioned it a while ago , there was a galnet post about several factions being interested in the exploration data of some guy on his return, two of those factions were religious groups. So why would religious groups be interested in exploration data? One of them was the faction in Van Maanen.
 
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But Raxxla may not be in any of those colonised systems, it could be in any system visited during the human expansion to those colonies, or nearby but beyond that bubble. I think the 2296 date is intended to set a limit on the search radius, the radius being defined by those colonies. IIRC it was just before Achenar was colonised, which means Achenar had been discovered & explored by then, which sets the search radius at around 95 ly (going from memory, with only half a mug of breakfast coffee imbibed so far, so the little grey cells are only half awake!).

This to me is the likeliest intention of that first rumour date. So it (or perhaps the start of the “storyline” to find it) could be anywhere within ~100ly of Sol. The huge proviso to that hypothesis is that people had started long distance exploration trips of the galaxy even at gamma release (when I think the galaxy was opened up to everyone, before that it was limited to a small alpha/beta galactic test bubble). Now ED started in 3300, long after the 2296 first rumour date, so I dont think that test bubble is relevant BUT Raxxla could also be anywhere that had been visited and the pilot had successfully returned to sell the data to UC ( assuming FD have been strictly logical about its placement). The search radius could be increased if you took the furthest system position from Sol that existed in the original game (using ED distances), since that was really where the legend of Raxxla started...

So, the only thing we know for sure is that its probably alien (DW statement that it was covered in the alien lore book which has not been released or leaked to us), hence likely either Guardian or Thargoid. Given the preponderance of the triangular motif in the UC screen and very brief (IMHO deliberate obscuration, perhaps a little bit obvious!) appearance in the ship’s nav panel, and similarity between that triangular motif and Guardian symbology, I am firmly convinced Raxxla is Guardian technology. Ram Tah’s decodes showed that Guardians were a space faring race that bioengineered races they encountered (often for hunting and eating!). Given the triangular motif in PF-controlled ship systems there is still a strong possibility lorewise that human evolution was engineered by the Guardians (wether as food, or as anti-Thargoid measure, or perhaps as successors; note to self, must watch Children of Dune on Netflix!) leading to the hypotheses that Raxxla is either in Sol or in Shinrarta Dezhra (PF HQ). This is all very tentative reasoning based on little supporting evidence. We also have Ram Tah’s statement that they had ark ships, so Raxxla could be one of those, now degraded by cosmic dust fall to resemble a moon, or engineered by the human cabal who control it into a human artefact such as a space station or installation (the latter have tunnels, for no sensible reason, which might be the omphalos).

Personally, following my “hunt the princess” storyline hypothesis, I’m still stuck on Aurora Astrum, desultorily searching in the dark (very long rotation period) for something that looks like an omphalos, losing interest and beginning to investigate an alternative (& ludicrously buggy) universe in SC.

Edit: TDW originated from the very earliest days of space exploration, which implies based in Sol. And yes, I’m also suspicious of Jacque’s journeying. I think most Orbis have engines- they’re the big things at the back! 😉 but his journeying was suspiciously highlighted in Galnet, and his long life means he probably has some knowledge not available to us. He could indeed be part of/the originator behind TDW. This is another reason I decided to follow my “hunt the princess” hypothesis- Aurora Astrum is only 27 ly or so from him. Barkeeps hear many secrets, he could have heard of a strange discovery then guided the Rxxla rumour. IIRC the station he inhabits started out in a system near Achenar.
The hemisphere of interest could be very large, therefore it does need to be analysed in comparison with other elements, such as the paths of various gen ships, relation of star constellations etc as this may provide some correlations…or conjunction / it may not, it could be anywhere in that haystack.

Again this is an area being covered by the great potato hunt, such a location may have already been fully scanned; if so ‘additional’ evidence from such a method of mapping may provide us additional confirmation, that X marks the spot - we can then assess if this relates to a future narrative or not etc…

It’s debatable how far back we can rely upon information concerning interstellar travel (gen ships/drones etc)… the intelligence gives us a date, that date sets a hemisphere of influence. It could be anywhere inside / outside, but if FD has dropped some other clues, in lore / in game etc then they could provide some insight.

For instance, on ‘the outer rim’…. What outer rim? Could that be the outer rim of this sphere of influence?

Close to this sphere of influence (too early for me too) is Pandemonium. Which could link back to Paradise Lost and the skin of Brookes and possibly the older Dark Wheel missions… when viewed in totality do they convey something?

Everyone maybe looking ‘inside’ this sphere of influence, but who is to say it is not on the ‘outskirts’ of said sphere…

I am infuriatingly locked out of the game since December following a botched patch install (my 2nd PS4 account is active but I need the PC to grab decent screen grabs / permits etc).

Ironically I use such analysis methods in RL but for a very long time I’ve adversely avoided their application in game, because… well it’s too much untrusted data / grind.

However I feel there is something to this, I feel the date does provide us a area of interest. I just need to refocus my primary account to this task and do some mapping…

I have an active ticket open with FD - so I may be out of the game for some time still. If there is anyone else proficient in geospatial analysis; I propose this sector of space it temporarily mapped.
 
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The hemisphere of interest could be very large, therefore it does need to be analysed in comparison with other elements, such as the paths of various gen ships, relation of star constellations etc as this may provide some correlations…or conjunction / it may not, it could be anywhere in that haystack.

It’s debatable how far back we can rely upon information concerning interstellar travel (gen ships/drones etc)… the intelligence gives us a date, that date sets a hemisphere of influence. It could be anywhere inside, but if FD has dropped some other clues, in lore / in game etc then they could provide some insight.

For instance, on ‘the outer rim’…. What outer rim? Could that be the outer rim of this sphere of influence?

Close to this sphere of influence (too early for me too) is Pandemonium. Which could link back to Paradise Lost and the skin of Brookes and possibly the older Dark Wheel missions… when viewed in totality do they convey something?

I am infuriatingly locked out of the game since December following a botched patch install (my 2nd PS4 account is active but I need the PC to grab decent screen grabs / permits etc).

Ironically I use such analysis methods in RL but for a very long time I’ve adversely avoided their application in game, because… well it’s too much untrusted data / grind.

However I feel there is something to this, I feel the date does provide us a area of interest. I just need to refocus my primary account to this task and do some mapping…

I have an active ticket open with FD - so I may be out of the game for some time still. If there is anyone else proficient in geospatial analysis; I propose this sector of space it temporarily mapped.
Well the outer rim needs context. Pluto was the outer rim of Sol system at the time of gamma, outer rim (reminiscent of a Wheel) could be the surface of the human bubble at the time (Sol-Achenar radius), outer rim of the Milky Way? Outer rim of TDW (wheels within wheels reference from Premonition?). Wasnt Paradise Lost based on several spheres of hell? “Music of the spheres” concept, the outer sphere being Heaven? Just another woolly “clue”!!!

Cant you run up your PC with an alternative OS and get access to your logfiles? Or safe boot it?? Or is the PC & Windows ok & it’s a game install problem? In the latter case I’d delete it (after saving logfiles etc) and reinstall then copy the logs back in.
 
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Re PC can’t really no… not with time permitting (free time / RL). Time is pretty limited for me. Besides I’ve had to perform a full wipe of the game, all files are gone….long story but FD have been great and they may have found a fix…

The Outer Rim, is just one of a number of rhetorical questions. It likely was poetic license, or long since binned content… who knows, but I’d like to assess it in relation to a number of other factors, as I feel there is something literally ‘written’ in the star placements… eg Brookes Yggdrasil or something else; it may not relate to Raxxla, but still such elements may only become relevant when viewed together.

I certainly believe Brookes to have placed certain stars to map out the hemisphere of the Miltons pendant universe… with Pandemonium at its base…

Eg obfuscated on the outer rim of the sphere of influence from Tau Ceti…in other words which systems fall just outside this area but are still accessible at that… could be someplace just beyond say Tau Ceti etc..
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All is likely balderdash, but is it? It could identify something/ it may not. Half the fun is looking, upto this point for me it’s been an internal thought exercise, and I’ve been distracted so many times - I’d just like to put it to paper.

Technically I don’t need access to game to do this mapping, just a good free GIS tool that allows entry of simple XYZ locations. I can’t use my ‘work’ tools for various reasons, so I was going to undertake the plotting ‘freehand’ - unless anyone knows of a good / safe 3d plotting GIS system?


Post in thread 'The Quest To Find Raxxla'
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-9496027
 
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Well, unless you’ve done a military wipe of your hard disc the game logfiles will still be on the hard disc, don’t know where the pilot’s stats are corded but also likely recoverable but you’d need FD advice on that. A normal wipe just clears the index links to files. So a file recovery program should be able to find and resurrect them.
 
Well, unless you’ve done a military wipe of your hard disc the game logfiles will still be on the hard disc, don’t know where the pilot’s stats are corded but also likely recoverable but you’d need FD advice on that. A normal wipe just clears the index links to files. So a file recovery program should be able to find and resurrect them.
Full wipe of game, player stats etc are server side. I’ve backed up key binds, but not visited stars so there all gone. Hopefully get the profile back up and running this week - time permitting.
 
But Raxxla may not be in any of those colonised systems, it could be in any system visited during the human expansion to those colonies, or nearby but beyond that bubble. I think the 2296 date is intended to set a limit on the search radius, the radius being defined by those colonies. IIRC it was just before Achenar was colonised, which means Achenar had been discovered & explored by then, which sets the search radius at around 95 ly (going from memory, with only half a mug of breakfast coffee imbibed so far, so the little grey cells are only half awake!).

This to me is the likeliest intention of that first rumour date. So it (or perhaps the start of the “storyline” to find it) could be anywhere within ~100ly of Sol. The huge proviso to that hypothesis is that people had started long distance exploration trips of the galaxy even at gamma release (when I think the galaxy was opened up to everyone, before that it was limited to a small alpha/beta galactic test bubble). Now ED started in 3300, long after the 2296 first rumour date, so I dont think that test bubble is relevant BUT Raxxla could also be anywhere that had been visited and the pilot had successfully returned to sell the data to UC ( assuming FD have been strictly logical about its placement). The search radius could be increased if you took the furthest system position from Sol that existed in the original game (using ED distances), since that was really where the legend of Raxxla started...

So, the only thing we know for sure is that its probably alien (DW statement that it was covered in the alien lore book which has not been released or leaked to us), hence likely either Guardian or Thargoid. Given the preponderance of the triangular motif in the UC screen and very brief (IMHO deliberate obscuration, perhaps a little bit obvious!) appearance in the ship’s nav panel, and similarity between that triangular motif and Guardian symbology, I am firmly convinced Raxxla is Guardian technology. Ram Tah’s decodes showed that Guardians were a space faring race that bioengineered races they encountered (often for hunting and eating!). Given the triangular motif in PF-controlled ship systems there is still a strong possibility lorewise that human evolution was engineered by the Guardians (wether as food, or as anti-Thargoid measure, or perhaps as successors; note to self, must watch Children of Dune on Netflix!) leading to the hypotheses that Raxxla is either in Sol or in Shinrarta Dezhra (PF HQ). This is all very tentative reasoning based on little supporting evidence. We also have Ram Tah’s statement that they had ark ships, so Raxxla could be one of those, now degraded by cosmic dust fall to resemble a moon, or engineered by the human cabal who control it into a human artefact such as a space station or installation (the latter have tunnels, for no sensible reason, which might be the omphalos).

Personally, following my “hunt the princess” storyline hypothesis, I’m still stuck on Aurora Astrum, desultorily searching in the dark (very long rotation period) for something that looks like an omphalos, losing interest and beginning to investigate an alternative (& ludicrously buggy) universe in SC.

Edit: TDW originated from the very earliest days of space exploration, which implies based in Sol. And yes, I’m also suspicious of Jacque’s journeying. I think most Orbis have engines- they’re the big things at the back! 😉 but his journeying was suspiciously highlighted in Galnet, and his long life means he probably has some knowledge not available to us. He could indeed be part of/the originator behind TDW. This is another reason I decided to follow my “hunt the princess” hypothesis- Aurora Astrum is only 27 ly or so from him. Barkeeps hear many secrets, he could have heard of a strange discovery then guided the Rxxla rumour. IIRC the station he inhabits started out in a system near Achenar.
Okay, so here's something else. In the event, it wasn't in Facece (though that makes more sense than a lot of places), I still think the odds run better in Imperial Space. There's several reasons for this:

1) Jacques: Battle of Hell's Gate: I don't think he fought in Phekda (thus why there is a Topaz in both Facece and Phekda to confuse matters) and can find zero supporting evidence to that end. He may have actually fought in the Battle of Achenar. Achenar is Hell's Gate as it is the end of the river of Hades ( Eridanos (River of Hades) and Eridanus Constellation). This means Jacques has been there from almost the very beginning.

2) The palm stations especially Black Mausoleum were actually built by the Imperials (covered in Wanted and the system description for indicates the architecture was from a very specific era - 2950-3150). Also, the other white stations (non-tourist) are ocellus designed which is also Imperial. It should be noted lore-wise that Ocellus stations are designed from the ground up to be mobile (either intra-system or inter-system) - see ocellus wiki entry. Jacques station is actually one of a handful of modified Orbis stations. I think the one in Robigo (Hauser's Reach) and Almagest (Sirius Reach and Attenborough Terminal) is similarly modified.

3) Capella - There are moons there called Duval's Grave and Lawrence's Grave. Does anyone know if Marlin Duval had a husband? However, its a bit far away from either Sol or Achenar and I still have no clue which Duval this was. However, realistically, prior to 2300 propulsion systems were the big hang uo. So, possibly in the immediate neighborhoods of those systems.

4) This was during the pre-hyperspace era. Any transit to a new system happened at sublight speeds. Yes, Codex states Achenar is colonized mid-2200s and that leaves 46 years but we cannot really safely assume human access even primitive hyperspace tech until sometime in the 2300s.

On a side note, based on everything I suspect TDW's station is in the same system if it isn't mobile. If it is, though, Sirius Corporation needs to be investigated (will add though I think there was a GalNet that those are more recent) especially those systems I mentioned as they are founded in 2200 (96 years prior to the Raxxla first mention) as does Jacques. When I get back in the Bubble, I am going to start working on confirming if there are other white ocellus stations that aren't tourist (they typically have statues).
 
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Morning.. just scooped some quirium and docked at the edge of civilization in Whadros. Hurray for escaping pirates and caching in a ton of exploration data, intel vouchers, etc. Anyways, looks like a whole lot of the older stuff is valid. Give me a few minutes and will dredge up those missing systems from Frontiers with descriptions and see if that can help out narrow down what we are looking for.


Quirium
The standard fuel used in most hyperspace engines, Made by combining anti-neutrinos with normal hydrogen, It is often referred to as simply hydrogen fuel.

Source: Encyclopedia Galactica (Encyclopedia Galactica)
 
No, you misunderstand. Like the system probably exists in Elite Dangerous but under new names. I think we'll have to rely upon descriptions to find these. Also, will be including Cemiess (also near Achenar) which supposedly lost some planets on the outskirts of the system 🤔

Sorry was updating word process and will get a PDF together in a bit.
 
See the thing about the distance they could of travelled I thin may be hit or miss, although they may not have reached raxxla due to hyperspace limits tat doesn't take away the fact they may have found the location of it, via probes, advanced telescopes and other lucrative methods, after all they had star charts and system data for places way beyond their reach, Galmap for instance knows the location and star maps of some systems Humanity has never reached before, the Pilots fed have Permits locking out zones of space at times where they wouldn't have even be reached yet, If you look up the dates of hyperspace travel, times, resources and jump ranges versus lets say the Hyponia and other regions also near Beagle these areas where permit locked but no way could have been reached at the time they where...so why permit lock them if you didn't know what was there beforehand due to other ways ;)

Even going on that, Galmap itself....how does it work regarding Lore, it seems to know the exact location of stars that CMDR's have never even been to yet, by first discovery tags being a basis to draw the lore from their either a lie (we weren't the real first to discover otherwise they wouldn't have been in galmap yet or there location wouldn't be exact) or whoever created galmap had some way of either being at the locations somehow to input the data or "Insert secret alien tech here"

The Mars relic could be

1. the tech used to create galmap

2. from this Raxxla location found/mentioned or something although never actually reached

Using this, the location may be known and rumor's flew out, for all anyone knows Raxxla itself could be out past Beagle someone secrectly just learned of its existance.

The Tech that created Galmap could even be part of Raxxla itself! (Hence being used by a sinister cabal creating permits and locking systems with permits) this could even be used in lore as a way to hide Raxxla as a system unless you where within distance to see it
 
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