No, he meant that you basically pay 45 $ for playing the game early because the other 30 $ are just the price of the game. But early bird package still costs 75 $.
Ahhh... okay.
No, he meant that you basically pay 45 $ for playing the game early because the other 30 $ are just the price of the game. But early bird package still costs 75 $.
No, he meant that you basically pay 45 $ for playing the game early because the other 30 $ are just the price of the game. But early bird package still costs 75 $.
Which is pretty ludicrous. If it was an extra $10, then OK yeah. But an extra $45 to be an Alpha/Beta tester is taking the biscuit, the butter, the wine and another AAA PC game. [woah]
That is the key point I believe is being missed Coasterbuff.
It's great that people are so very keen to get the game that they want to buy early access but;
No-one is forcing anyone to buy it, no-one says it should be 'x' value and FDev didn't HAVE to offer it.
At the end of the day it is an optional purchase, not something we are all entitled to receive.
No one is forcing you to buy Early Access, if you think it is too expensive, then wait until final release. It just depends how eager you are to be able to play the game. Yes it isn't cheap, compared to the final release, but imho worth it!
Yeah, that is pretty crazy...But I don't mind paying a little extra if it means that the final product will be that much better and might include more content than they originally planned.True, nobody is forcing you to buy it, but you can't sit there and think that $80 is fair when a alpha beta cost more than the actual game.
At any price there will be people willing to buy, and people unwilling to buy. If Frontier are getting a reasonable uptake at the price they've chosen, good on them. They are not morally obliged to sell at a lower price just because there are always people unwilling to pay the chosen price, by that logic everything in the world would end up being free...?!
Based on the enthusiastic uptake on this forum, it sounds like they've priced it quite well, especially given that MANY people here have willingly handed over extra money to get "extras". And Frontier are getting market feedback early, so that they can plan a sales and development strategy for the coming 2-3 years. Our enthusiasm and willingness to pay more will help them choose how to price DLC, expansion packs, etc. The more we appear to value the game, especially this early, the lower their risk in assigning expensive resources to expand the game for us. If they halved the price, they might sell more units sooner but the risk (of investing in further development) is higher, so we would all lose out on future excellent extensions to the game.
HOWEVER: many passionate players simply cannot afford to pay more (the very young and the very old, it seems). I get that.
To be fair, Frontier have not ignored that fact either. Frontier have segmented their offer so that if you only want to pay $30, you can, and if you are willing to pay over $100, you can do that too. You can even pay $500, if you like. Obviously the people paying more want a little something extra in return for paying the premium. Early access, Coaster Head etc are very smart ways to segment the community, so that many more people can pay what THEY think it's worth. Those of you who only want to pay $30 could be grateful that others are willing to top up Frontier's early returns by paying more, and not begrudge the small incremental benefit those people receive from all that extra money.
To those who have paid many hundreds of dollars for the extras, I say THANK YOU for helping to contribute to early returns on investment and show Frontier that collectively we are a valuable market for this excellent game. To Frontier I say THANK YOU for segmenting the offers so that each of us can pay as much or as little as we can afford. To those of you willing to wait for release, and even those who will wait until the price drops after release; THANK YOU TOO for being vocal about it, because you will provide the ongoing revenue that will keep Frontier investing in the game, so that we all benefit, and it's good for us all that Frontier can hear your voices on this forum.
As a community, if we maximize the value of the game to Frontier (good, solid revenue stream), they will maximize the value of the game to us (good, solid features). I trust these guys not to "take our money and run". They are building a great game with great passion, and if we keep supporting them they will keep doing that.
At any price there will be people willing to buy, and people unwilling to buy. If Frontier are getting a reasonable uptake at the price they've chosen, good on them. They are not morally obliged to sell at a lower price just because there are always people unwilling to pay the chosen price, by that logic everything in the world would end up being free...?!
Based on the enthusiastic uptake on this forum, it sounds like they've priced it quite well, especially given that MANY people here have willingly handed over extra money to get "extras". And Frontier are getting market feedback early, so that they can plan a sales and development strategy for the coming 2-3 years. Our enthusiasm and willingness to pay more will help them choose how to price DLC, expansion packs, etc. The more we appear to value the game, especially this early, the lower their risk in assigning expensive resources to expand the game for us. If they halved the price, they might sell more units sooner but the risk (of investing in further development) is higher, so we would all lose out on future excellent extensions to the game.
HOWEVER: many passionate players simply cannot afford to pay more (the very young and the very old, it seems). I get that.
To be fair, Frontier have not ignored that fact either. Frontier have segmented their offer so that if you only want to pay $30, you can, and if you are willing to pay over $100, you can do that too. You can even pay $500, if you like. Obviously the people paying more want a little something extra in return for paying the premium. Early access, Coaster Head etc are very smart ways to segment the community, so that many more people can pay what THEY think it's worth. Those of you who only want to pay $30 could be grateful that others are willing to top up Frontier's early returns by paying more, and not begrudge the small incremental benefit those people receive from all that extra money.
To those who have paid many hundreds of dollars for the extras, I say THANK YOU for helping to contribute to early returns on investment and show Frontier that collectively we are a valuable market for this excellent game. To Frontier I say THANK YOU for segmenting the offers so that each of us can pay as much or as little as we can afford. To those of you willing to wait for release, and even those who will wait until the price drops after release; THANK YOU TOO for being vocal about it, because you will provide the ongoing revenue that will keep Frontier investing in the game, so that we all benefit, and it's good for us all that Frontier can hear your voices on this forum.
As a community, if we maximize the value of the game to Frontier (good, solid revenue stream), they will maximize the value of the game to us (good, solid features). I trust these guys not to "take our money and run". They are building a great game with great passion, and if we keep supporting them they will keep doing that.
Hi am new to the forum. I pre-ordered the early bird pass version. Normally I wouldn't spend that much, however I'm really excited about the game. I think we get updates and don't have to purchase.Totally worth the money!
Such a Great Wall of text! You're 100% right! [up][yesnod]At any price there will be people willing to buy, and people unwilling to buy. If Frontier are getting a reasonable uptake at the price they've chosen, good on them. They are not morally obliged to sell at a lower price just because there are always people unwilling to pay the chosen price, by that logic everything in the world would end up being free...?!
Based on the enthusiastic uptake on this forum, it sounds like they've priced it quite well, especially given that MANY people here have willingly handed over extra money to get "extras". And Frontier are getting market feedback early, so that they can plan a sales and development strategy for the coming 2-3 years. Our enthusiasm and willingness to pay more will help them choose how to price DLC, expansion packs, etc. The more we appear to value the game, especially this early, the lower their risk in assigning expensive resources to expand the game for us. If they halved the price, they might sell more units sooner but the risk (of investing in further development) is higher, so we would all lose out on future excellent extensions to the game.
HOWEVER: many passionate players simply cannot afford to pay more (the very young and the very old, it seems). I get that.
To be fair, Frontier have not ignored that fact either. Frontier have segmented their offer so that if you only want to pay $30, you can, and if you are willing to pay over $100, you can do that too. You can even pay $500, if you like. Obviously the people paying more want a little something extra in return for paying the premium. Early access, Coaster Head etc are very smart ways to segment the community, so that many more people can pay what THEY think it's worth. Those of you who only want to pay $30 could be grateful that others are willing to top up Frontier's early returns by paying more, and not begrudge the small incremental benefit those people receive from all that extra money.
To those who have paid many hundreds of dollars for the extras, I say THANK YOU for helping to contribute to early returns on investment and show Frontier that collectively we are a valuable market for this excellent game. To Frontier I say THANK YOU for segmenting the offers so that each of us can pay as much or as little as we can afford. To those of you willing to wait for release, and even those who will wait until the price drops after release; THANK YOU TOO for being vocal about it, because you will provide the ongoing revenue that will keep Frontier investing in the game, so that we all benefit, and it's good for us all that Frontier can hear your voices on this forum.
As a community, if we maximize the value of the game to Frontier (good, solid revenue stream), they will maximize the value of the game to us (good, solid features). I trust these guys not to "take our money and run". They are building a great game with great passion, and if we keep supporting them they will keep doing that.
Talk about a rip off here, sorry if this is already posted, but I was gonna pre-order the early bird to be able to play in the alpha, but for $80 is just way too much for game+beta access. Do you get something else, other than beta access I don't know about?
In my opinion, if you spend $76 + shipping just to have access to extra pictures and videos, and receive a t shirt and a wristband, you're crazy. Apparently I am crazy. I purchased this in the hopes of them changing it so that coaster head members would get early access (at least earlier than official release) too. i don't really understand. Either you can order early access to the game but no early access forums for ~$75, or you can get a tshirt, a wristband, and access to early access forums, but NO early access to the game for ~$75. Why? I want early access to the game, forum access, a tshirt, AND a wristband. But if I want early access I have to pay a total of >$150? I feel like somebody messed up the pricing scale. Why no early access for coaster head club? Wouldn't a true coaster head want early access AND all that stuff? :/
i agree with this as well. In fact, I agree with this so much that I want you to be president. #feelthejamesAt any price there will be people willing to buy, and people unwilling to buy. If Frontier are getting a reasonable uptake at the price they've chosen, good on them. They are not morally obliged to sell at a lower price just because there are always people unwilling to pay the chosen price, by that logic everything in the world would end up being free...?!
Based on the enthusiastic uptake on this forum, it sounds like they've priced it quite well, especially given that MANY people here have willingly handed over extra money to get "extras". And Frontier are getting market feedback early, so that they can plan a sales and development strategy for the coming 2-3 years. Our enthusiasm and willingness to pay more will help them choose how to price DLC, expansion packs, etc. The more we appear to value the game, especially this early, the lower their risk in assigning expensive resources to expand the game for us. If they halved the price, they might sell more units sooner but the risk (of investing in further development) is higher, so we would all lose out on future excellent extensions to the game.
HOWEVER: many passionate players simply cannot afford to pay more (the very young and the very old, it seems). I get that.
To be fair, Frontier have not ignored that fact either. Frontier have segmented their offer so that if you only want to pay $30, you can, and if you are willing to pay over $100, you can do that too. You can even pay $500, if you like. Obviously the people paying more want a little something extra in return for paying the premium. Early access, Coaster Head etc are very smart ways to segment the community, so that many more people can pay what THEY think it's worth. Those of you who only want to pay $30 could be grateful that others are willing to top up Frontier's early returns by paying more, and not begrudge the small incremental benefit those people receive from all that extra money.
To those who have paid many hundreds of dollars for the extras, I say THANK YOU for helping to contribute to early returns on investment and show Frontier that collectively we are a valuable market for this excellent game. To Frontier I say THANK YOU for segmenting the offers so that each of us can pay as much or as little as we can afford. To those of you willing to wait for release, and even those who will wait until the price drops after release; THANK YOU TOO for being vocal about it, because you will provide the ongoing revenue that will keep Frontier investing in the game, so that we all benefit, and it's good for us all that Frontier can hear your voices on this forum.
As a community, if we maximize the value of the game to Frontier (good, solid revenue stream), they will maximize the value of the game to us (good, solid features). I trust these guys not to "take our money and run". They are building a great game with great passion, and if we keep supporting them they will keep doing that.