External View [A definitive discussion]

[nats]

When? Does anyone on here have contact with the Dev group? I don't get the feeling there reading this so its just all is debating this. We need an answer on if this is being done and when, anyone have contacts.

I wouldnt hold your breath put it like that. Frontier have been spectacularly non-commital about most things they are doing over these last few months, even the newsletters tell you absolutely nowt these days, so much so I hardly bother reading them anymore. They certainly are not very open about anything, the Kickstarter told us that. They got loads from the DDF but whether they have decided if and when to put much of it in the game who knows other than them. I think the whole of this forum is now held frailly together on pure faith that certain things will be done to the game 'at some point'. We dont even know what the final ships are that will be in the game yet. It does get a little bit exasperating at times.

 

[NeilF]

I wouldnt hold your breath put it like that. Frontier have been spectacularly non-commital about most things they are doing over these last few months, even the newsletters tell you absolutely nowt these days, so much so I hardly bother reading them anymore. They certainly arent not very open about anything, the Kickstarter told us that. They got loads from the DDF but whether they have decided if and when to put much of it in the game who knows other than them. I think the whole of this forum is now held frailly together on pure faith that certain things will be done to the game 'at some point'. We dont even know what the final ships are that will be in the game yet. It does get a little bit exasperating at times.

I concur... I'm hoping over the next couple of weeks we hear news to suggest major work is again taking place to ED to add lots more features and depth. My concern is now its released, the opposite may happen. Fingers crossed for the former!

 

[nats]

I concur... I'm hoping over the next couple of weeks we hear news to suggest major work is again taking place to ED to add lots more features and depth. My concern is now its released, the opposite may happen. Fingers crossed for the former!

Yeah its almost as if its their long lost baby and they couldnt care less whether it sells anything. Who cares what us lot want, we only play the flaming thing lol?

Lately they seem more concerned with whether players can trigger a planet to go into civil war or not! I mean who the hell cares about that when we have 15 ships still missing, loads of missing depth in practically every area, randomised simplistic missions, dull trading, one limited single pilot view to experience the whole game from, a couple of different stations that all look the same inside ... I dunno, strange priorities!

Anyway I digress.

 

[sutex]

View Poll Results: An External View yes or no, Multiple choice

• Yes: an External View for Combat
  
  28 8.72%
• No: This will break immersion fo me
  
  
  117 36.45%
• Yes: I want to know from where I am being attacked from
  
  16 4.98%
• No: the Scanner is all you need.
  
  103 32.09%
• Yes: a Simple external ship viewer None Combat
  
  162 50.47%
• No: Keep everything within the ship

NO TO ALL The only external view I want of my SHIP is WHEN going EVA !! lol Or walking around my ship when it's docked

Docking leaving & entering the only time you can see behind you while sitting in your ship That screen just below your Radar lights up as soon as you requested docking permission showing you what is behind you, That's it, ANY 3rd person VIEWS, drones, space birds, spaceghosts, with cameras will break immersion

 

[LarsBot]

Immersion people! Just because it's there dont use it! Or.... Perhaps the lure of the gorgeous ship filling your screen will cause you to lose self control and look outside! BLAM! Now your one of us!

Btw- for everyone's information, external canera views in simulators are the standard, they are used to increase the situational awareness that is lost due to the limitations of non-motion simming- ie. the absence of you body feeling inertia is a huge reduction in situational awareness not to mention flat screes with which the view out of, bad lighting, back ground noises etc. The external cam can give some of that back to the simmer.

 

[Tribal]

I say yes. Why NOT have the OPTION to change the view? I for one would like to have this view when docking since from my understanding, some of the ships barely fit in the docking slot. As long as it isn't used in combat, it can't really hurt anyone.

 

[Gippo]

Please keep the immersion and stay only first person. Don't make ship designs obsolete. Don't make an arcade game of this pls.

 

[NeilF]

Please keep the immersion and stay only first person. Don't make ship designs obsolete. Don't make an arcade game of this pls.

Please at least read the first post of a thread before posting? You'll find even people wanting an external view mostly want the same as you... There are easy ways to offer an external view without introducing a "God cam" or making it into an "arcade game".

 

[Gippo]

Please at least read the first post of a thread before posting? You'll find even people wanting an external view mostly want the same as you... There are easy ways to offer an external view without introducing a "God cam" or making it into an "arcade game".

You are right, I jumped in without even reading.

 

[almostpilot]

Please FD let it optional. Who does not want, do not use.Simple.

 

[Bigcheese]

Come on, a little remote control camera probe? That would be sweet!

Could even show you the video on the empty screen between your legs. That would be boss.

 

[Vasea Azure]

Please keep the immersion and stay only first person. Don't make ship designs obsolete. Don't make an arcade game of this pls.

External cam DOES NOT = arcade. By this logic FXS DCs and all other flight sims would be arcade games

 

[lightedge]

external cameras

Why does my ship not have external cameras, surely if I want to look at something I am flying by I shouldn't have to turn to look straight at it,

I like exploring its a reason why I have the game, not the only one so why can't I look at a screen in my ship at external views

 

[Coccolino]

Why does my ship not have external cameras, surely if I want to look at something I am flying by I shouldn't have to turn to look straight at it,
I like exploring its a reason why I have the game, not the only one so why can't I look at a screen in my ship at external views

Do you mean Park Assist of some sort of spectacular fly-by view?

 

[Craib]

you might want to search the forums ... this has been asked lots of times before.

 

[Vasea Azure]

its all here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=12464

 

[Wedgetail]

Freelook?

 

[lightedge]

Do you mean Park Assist of some sort of spectacular fly-by view?

no I mean purely for viewing what I am fying by with out looking straight at it, as would be normal in any ship, whether that be full screen or a view screen on the consul.

 

[Olrik]

http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/Teala/0...he-start-of-something-big-bold-and-beautiful-
Elite: Dangerous - It's the start of something big, bold and beautiful.

We definitely need to be able to go 3rd person view in this game(which currently we cannot do). Not for combat - that is a no brainer. No, the reason we need to be able to go 3rd person is for taking screenshots of our ships! Right now we can buy and put new paint jobs on our ship, but what fun is it if we cannot see them(not talking about the static image in the outfitting window - that doesn't count)

I completely agree

 

[Therris]

I dont like games like that and I didnt like Freelancer as well, I dont like the idea at all of fighting in third person it just seems so arcadelike and complete unrealistic in the extreme. I would love to be able toa dmire my ships from the outside and take some fancy shots of them in all their glory but I dont want to ever be playing the game in 3rd person mode. That is about as far away from my gameplaying preferences as you can get, sorry.

Where did anyone suggest removing first person? Example: SWG JTL.