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almostpilot
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The game won!
Thanks FD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good news 
Cmdr Nutter please calm down, Your pulse must 180 and your heart will not take that in prolonged periods..
Easy now
Cheers Cmdr's
Cmdr Nutter please calm down, Your pulse must 180 and your heart will not take that in prolonged periods..
Easy now
Cheers Cmdr's
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This will be awesome.
This will be awesome.
Aw please don't be like that. I completely agree with your statement on realistic vs gameplay. But when they don't do something they get nailed, when they do, they get nailed. How can they get out of this vicious circle? In the end, they decided to give us that feature. I'm just incredibly glad they did!
Still no word when or if ever we will be able to see the correct skin on our ships from inside the cockpit.
You know how to do something and avoid getting nailed for it? Do it properly, instead of opening debug features to the playerbase in a post-launch game. That's just f'd up to me.
They haven't given us a feature, they've given us one of their tools because it happens to have the same basic function. Does that not seem wrong for a post-launch title?
Don't expect the vanity camera as a mechanic to make it off the backburner any more quickly now as people get used to the debug camera.
Why reinvent the wheel currently? Seriously, this is an easy win for them...which you see and disagree with. Will people complain that the camera isn't what they wanted? Maybe. Let's see how functional it is. It meets peoples criteria that it cannot be used to fudge fights. It WILL give folks the ability to see themselves and make videos and machinima...which helps the game overall.
OMG, I finally will be able to see my ship!
Now where are those paint jobs....
Now where are those paint jobs....
Javert
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Possibly they have set out their internal roadmap and they only have a limited amount of development they are allowed to do before they strart serious work on the first expansion pack. Given this, the camera drones concept may have been a lot of work and they had to take the pragmatic decision to do it this way.
Use of the term "debug camera" may be partly so that those who were against this internally save face and to try to maintain consistency with previous comments from devs on this topic. I doubt they are just giving us all of the debug view features that they have internally - I suspect it is a version that's more limited than what they can do internally.
By the way, have they stated yet what your ship will do when you enter the debug camera? Will it carry on according to the last control settings you had made?
What an extraordinary reaction. This is in no way whatsoever an "arcade" feature. If anything, it's the opposite. I can't remember putting 10p in any game that involved sitting still and admiring the scenery (while 100% vulnerable, with no means of defending your ship).
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2 internets to the first person who posts selfies of his ship being sucked into Sagittarius A*
It's less an easy win, more of a lazy win. All of those criteria could be met by the actual finished vanity camera feature, without being a lazy hack to keep the kids from complaining for too long. It's pandering, it's insulting, and it fits their entire MO perfectly so far. Why bother producing gold when the plebs would be happy with pigiron? Things like this are just starting to me off now.
This is the strangest thread I've ever seen.
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